Projects vs Albums vs folders

Hi
How do you guys organize your photos?
Im thinking about having 1 project per year and create albums for "events" like trips, birthday parties... you name it
Tell us a little about your organizing workflow!
Thanks

It sounds as though you did not read what I posted at the second of the two links I pasted in for you. I recommend it .
The task you face is to create an +access structure+ for your images.
Your images must be in a container.
You can have as many containers as you like. Almost everyone prefers having more than one.
You can group those containers. Group them so that you can find them more readily. (Remember, you are creating an +access structure+ .)
The +access structure+ can, and imho, should be different from your +output structure+. I suggest that you put your images in one place in order to retrieve them, and that you put virtual copies of the retrieved images in another place when you are preparing them for output.
In Aperture, the container through which you access you images is called a Project. This is, imho, indescribably poorly named -- but the name is a given, and is immutable. No matter what, your images have to go somewhere -- stick them in these containers called "Projects".
Group your "Projects" using Folders.
When you have a project (small "p") for which you will be preparing and outputting images, create an Album. If you have parallel projects (small "p"), use Folders to group them by kind.
You'll end up with two "trees" in your Aperture garden:
. a nested Folder tree of containers which hold your images: those containers are Projects
. a nested Folder tree of containers which your projects (small "p"): those containers are Albums
That's (basically) what I do. Read through the long posts linked above for more.
The number one suggestion I have is to cleanse your mind of the misleading label "Project". Just think of them as bins which hold your images. Make each bin hold a shoot (much like a "roll" -- if you've ever seen those antediluvian strips of sprocketed plastic) and you'll be well on your way to working with Aperture in a way that is simple and smooth.

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  • Organizing with Folders vs Projects vs Albums vs Stacked Photos

    Question - Longtime Apple user, but relatively new to Aperture. Working on organizing a large collection of photographs, and am debating whether to organize by Project and grouping similar Projects into folders, or whether to use Projects as my major subdivisions, and organizing within projects using Albums or Stacks.
    I realize that there's probably no right answer, so I'm hoping that anybody reading this note could take a quick minute to share the philosophy they apply to organization, as well as any concrete advantages or drawbacks to Projects, Folders, Albums, or their own method.
    Thanks for sharing!
    Mark

    Projects are, imho, badly misnamed. Aperture was designed with the general plan that one shoot would be one Project. Projects have one salient characteristic (which separates them from other ways of grouping images) -- each Master must be in a Project, and can be in only one Project. Because of the above, you should conceive of Projects as the master (small "m") and enduring holding bin of your shots. I think of them as boxes, or as binders ("binders" implying, somehow, something more long-term than "album").
    However you end up organizing your collection in Aperture, the one method I recommend against is using Projects as your major subdivisions. They weren't designed to be used this way, they shouldn't have more than a few hundred Masters in them, and you are likely to outgrow that system of organization.
    I stick with "one shoot = one Project". If I have three separate shoots on one card, I import the files in three separate sets, each with the Masters specially re-named, into three separate Projects. I then use folders to organize my Projects. I use Albums for sub-sets of Projects with more than 60 or so images -- I do a lot of my processing by Project, and I find 60 images is about the most I can easily handle at once. I use Albums also for actual projects (small "p") -- e.g.: a series of cards for sale, or work for a client.
    All images are keyworded (again, a per-Project task). I use color labels to indicate the level of development of an image. I use stars to indicate the value of an image (rejected, not yet rated, best of stack, worth keeping, among the best in Project, worth publishing, excellent).
    Keywords, color labels, ratings, and Project names give me enormous specificity in creating Smart Albums, which I do extensively.
    Additionally, I do three things which I think are uncommon.
    . I move my Projects according to the status of their development, and
    . I separate my intake, storage, and processing areas from my output areas, and
    . I never use Folders to organize by date.
    I do this because for me Aperture's two overall functions are best treated separately. Those two overall functions are, generally, Intake and Output, or to be more specific, "Import, Develop, and Store" and "Gather for export, Prepare for publication, and Export". The top-level folders in my Library are
    . Administration Smart Albums
    . Raw (inputs)
    . Cold Storage
    . To Serve
    Admin Smarties includes "5-stars", "Managed Masters older than 45 days", "Masters Missing", "Printed 17x22", "Re-take", and the like.
    "Raw" is the top-level of a folder tree which includes "Just Imported", "Described not Stacked", "Stacked not Keyworded", "Keyworded not Picked", and "Picked not filed". I move my Projects into the appropriate folder. Note that this works well in Projects view -- one can drill down to any level of the Library tree and see at a glance which Projects are where.
    "Cold Storage" is where I put all fully-processed Projects (and remember, for me "Project" just means "Shoot" -- if you ever used a non-digital camera, same as a box of slides or a sleeve of photos). I organize these as I see fit. I try to put Projects where I think I will look for them. Clients have their own folder(s). Other photographers have their own folders. On the personal side, I have folders for Portraits of friends, Family, Events, Trips, Indoors, Urban outdoors, Rural outdoors, Close-ups, Test shots, etc. Each of these is further subdivided. I have an entire folder sub-branch just for fine art still-lifes.
    The last of the top-level folders holds a large sub-set of folders for output. None of these folders have Projects in them (Projects, for me, are +storage containers+, not output containers). I create a folder for each output project (small "p"), and use Albums as needed. In theory, every image that shows in the output side of my Aperture structure should already have been selected ("picked") and optimally developed as an image (the rating and label tell me the status of the image). What is left for me to do is final selection, pre-press, and export.
    No where in my Library structure is any accommodation made to date (other than the "one shoot = one Project rule). The is no reason to organize an Aperture Library by date -- date organization is hard-coded into Aperture at both the Project and the Image level. Since it is already hard-coded into Aperture, I prefer to use the Library organization tools to create a storage and output structure which gives me a level of utility on top of date organization.
    In general, I keep my Projects view (the Viewer, not the Inspector) grouped by Library folders and sorted by date (most recent first). If I want to view all my shoots (Projects) by date, I simply ungroup them in Project view. If I want to view them by year, I click the "Year" grouping icon. I find Project view, and the built-in grouping options, quite useful.
    When I need to view all of my photos in date order I simply use "Photos" view. Note the sophisticated filtering options available using the "Date" and "Calendar" rules. In general, I set Photos view to sort by either "Import Session" or "Date -- Descending". I regularly use List view when in Photos view.
    I complete my set-up with specific file-naming and Project-naming conventions. The important thing here is consistency -- set it up right from the get-go, and stick to it rigorously, and you won't have to second-guess your searches or filters.
    Hope that helps. It's a lot of overhead -- but I have and take a lot of shots, I work in spurts, and I valued a system which would let me start and stop at nearly any time and always let me know +by structure+ the status of any shot or image or Project or project -- while remaining flexible and expandable.
    My example should at least give you some ropes to use as you simultaneously shape and climb your Aperture mountain. I strongly recommend setting up a practice Library using, say, 10% of your images, and using to for a couple of weeks, tweaking it as you go, before "casting it in stone" and importing your entire collection. Aperture is broad and powerful -- take the time to know and understand it, and you will find your use of it immensely rewarding.
    Good luck.

  • About Folders, Projects and Albums

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    Thank you to respond. There were no errant search criteria in that folder. Meanwhile I resolved the issue by creating a new folder in the root and dragging the projects and albums to it. After that I deleted the folder that turned out to be corrupted (?) I still don't know what went wrong, but the new folder works out fine.

  • Working with projects and albums in the browser

    I have already posted a question about how to find a project or album. If you have TONS of projects and albums how do you find a specific one in the browser? I cannot see any way to sort other than alphabetically and there is no way to search project or album names.
    By the same token, and this is my new question, how do you easily display in the viewer all the files in a project? (a project may contain albums with images that are not stored on the root level of that project, so highlighting the project in the browser does not display them). Or similarly, how do you display in the viwer the images contained in several albums? There eseems to be no way to simultaneaously selct albums or projects. You can have several tabs open but not see the images together in the viewer. In fact to make a slide show off all the images in one project you have to create an album and manually put in all the images.
    Similarly, there is no way of making a smart album of all the images in a project or determined albums, which would have been a work around for all these issues.....
    Am I missing something really obvious????????? It all seems so basic. Even iphoto lets you do these things! HELP, APPLE!!!!!!!!
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    Hola Francisco,
    Aperture is a much more powerful software than iPhoto and it's crucial to understand the way its library works to get the most of its organization capabilities.
    Master images can only be placed (physically) inside projects. These are then image containers. An album only has links to images, and this links can go to any project. So even if an album is inside a project it could be displaying images that are not inside that project but somewhere else (if you drag and drop from other project previously).
    On the project panel, projects are display in alphabetical order, but you can also use blue folders to organize projects. My project panel is organized as follows:
    Project '1. Imports': A project created to automatically recieve all the photos when a card is inserted in my card reader. I use a hot folder with automator for this.
    Blue folder '2. Smart Albums': This blue folder has all the smart albums I need to quickly find any image in the library.
    Blue folder '3. Work': This folder has all the projects related to my work.
    Blue folder '4. Travel': Contains projects of my travel photography divided by country.
    Blue folder '5. Portrait': Contains projects of portrait sessions.
    Blue folder '6. Social & Events': Contains projects of differents events I shoot.
    Project '7. Templates': Contains photoshop templates to create 9 in 1 frames, etcetera.
    As you can see I use numbers in front of every name to keep them in the order I want. Then the metadata does the rest, I add keywords to easily find ANY image in seconds, doesn't matter how long I did it.
    A Smart album will search inside the whole Library if you create it at 'All images' level, then you can drag it to a folder to organize them if you want.
    I'd recommend the book by Ben Long and Orlando Luna, it made me squeeze all the potential of Aperture, way beyond the manual that came with the program.

  • Storing in projects vs. albums

    Hey!
    I've been doing an internship for 7 months now and I've been taking pictures like crazy, I'm up to 4200 and counting.
    Currently I'm storing all photos in a project called internship and each event (like roadtrips) are in separate albums.
    Recently I noticed that aperture is getting kinda slow so I started thinking, could this be because of all 4200 photos being in the same project?
    How are you supposed to organize your photos?
    You can either do what I do today or you could switch places of projects and albums (so you have one album in the root and many projects), you could also use folders. Which way is preferred?
    Thanks
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    Good advice above.
    Ansman wrote:
    Currently I'm storing all photos in a project called internship and each event (like roadtrips) are in separate albums.
    Instead, let each road trip or perhaps one day's shoot, or morning shoot be an individual Project, aiming for that goal of (a) logical time-based organization and (b) no more than ~500 pix per project I have not personally tried to quantify the impact of Project size on performance.
    "Internship" can be a folder with all the relevant projects in it.
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    Back up originals on external drives prior to import into Aperture or any other images app. I cannot overstate how important that is, and various manuals, texts, etc. present workflows that skip that critical step. Also back up the Aperture Library using Aperture's Vaults, which are designed for that purpose.
    RAM
    Your workflow may be running out of RAM and therefore "paging out" to disk. Page outs slow operation a lot and can lead to instability.
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  • Projects and Albums.  Could they have been more ambiguous?

    Aperture is feature packed and does a great job editing images. What it doesn't do so well is make it clear EXACTLY what the difference between a 'Project' and 'Album' is. Could someone offer a CLEAR explanation as to what exactly a 'Project' is and why one would use it instead of an album or folder? Case in point. I processed about 400 images yesterday. Some were imported into a 'New Project' directly off the CF card. Others were imported as a folder into the 'New Project'. The folder that was imported was brought in as an album by Aperture. The images imported from the CF card itself are all contained in the project AND the folder. I know there is only one copy of each as the album versions are referencing the master file. But, I now want to move the processed images into an album and then export it. Exporting is another topic altogether...
    TIA.

    Dan Donovan wrote:
    A photo can exist in one and only one PROJECT. Conversely, one photo can exist in as many ALBUMS as you like. The previously mentioned playlist analogy for Albums is great. One song can be in many playlists.
    I look at Projects as photo shoots. The raw files from each of my photo shoots are kept in their own project. When I see the word Project, I automatically think "photo shoot".
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  • Aperture advice needed albums vs. folders - Hey leonieDF L@@K here pls!

    Looking for some general opinions and/or suggestions on how to best organize Aperture. I want to really streamline my work.  Aspiring professional.
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    Since folders are containers that dont hold images, is it too risky to put sub albums or even projects within a folder? For fear of accidentally deleting a folder & with it all the data?
    SUMMARY -  Any good tips on how to organize with Projects, Albums and Folders would be appreciated.
    PS: would love to hear from leonieDF if you see this post.

    The naming of the parts
    Assembling the parts named
    It is a very useful exercise to develop your own Library structure  .  The second link above details many of my thoughts while I was first putting together Aperture 3 Libraries.
    As Léonie has already indicated, your first mapping is commonly proposed, and inverted.  Until you are completely adept with Aperture, stick to "one Project = one out-in-the-world shoot".  This is how Aperture was designed to work (afaict) -- starting off that way will give you the broadest geography you can cover without crashing into an unanticipated fold in the landscape.
    I found it very helpful to understand and utilize the fact that I use the Library for two distinct tasks:  storage, and retrieval.  (I use the program for Image development, but that is in effect independent of the Library organization.)  My solution is to separate these structures, with Projects (organized with Folders) as a filing system for all my Images organized by "shoot", and Albums (organized with Folders) as a filing system for all of my output projects (small "p" projects".
    This works well for me, partly because I am a fine art photographer, and my projects (again, small "p") almost always span several shoots.  For instance I am preparing an entry for a show of small works on paper.  I have created a Folder for this, in which I put an Album holding the 100 or so Images I'm considering entering.  These 100 come from at least 30 separate shoots.  I will whittle this down to four, mark them as the ones I entered, and leave the Folder in which I can always see which Images I considered, and which ones I selected.
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    Read the linked messages, play around a bit, and post more.  There are very few needs that Aperture can't meet.

  • Projects or Albums??

    I have hundreds of photos on my HD neatly filed within aptly named folders all nestled within a folder named "Dititals".
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  • How to rganize projects in albums

    I have a number of projects under Library Albums, one project per day, like events in iphoto. So when trying to organize, creating an album per month, then putting all the projects in a month in to this alum it is not possible - I must be very stupid, how do I do this?
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  • Updating linked projects and Albums

    Hi all, I'm new to Aperture. I keep all my photo's on a NAS box and have linked them into Aperture with Import Folders as projects storing files in their current location. Everything seemed great, it didn't fill my HDD up with 1TB of pictures and it kept my folder structure. I though i had it all sorted, but when i add files to the folders on the NAS box they don't get added to the Aperture projects/Albums.
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    [http://documentation.apple.com/en/aperture/usermanual/index.html#chapter=4%26se ction=9%26hash=apple_ref:doc:uid:Aperture-UserManual-91292IMP-1056494]
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