Proxies for AVCHD 5.1

First of all sorry about my english and about my poor knowledge in audio.
I need your help for adapting my edit workflow.
This is my workflow when I edit with HDV or AVCHD source footage:
I create one AVI file for each source footage file (with DV MainConcept CODEC for video and copying the stream for audio). For this task I use DGAVCIndex(for AVCHD files) or DGIndex(for HDV files), Avisynth, and VirtualDub (wow!)
I edit with Premiere Elements 7, but instead of using the source files I edit with the proxy files, because the edition is very fast.
When I finish the proxy proyect, I close it from PE7, I open the proxy proyect file with WORD, rename all '.AVI' for '.MTS'(for AVCHD) or '.M2T'(for HDV), and I save the final proyect file.
I open the final proyect file in PE7 and then I share it to a file or to a BlueRay
My camcorder is an HV30 Canon model, but in a few months I would like to change it for a TM900 Panasonic model. I was waiting for something new coming from Canon but Canon is living in the past (where are the 60p or 50p canon camcorders for consumers?)
I am trying to adapt my workflow for my future TM900, using one source file coming from the TM700 model. I do not have any problems for converting the image, but I have problems in converting the audio. The audio in the source file is 5.1 PCM format, I copied the stream to the proxy (AVI file), but when I open the proxy in PE7 the audio is mono.
Do you have any idea about how to save the proxy in VirtualDub in order to have 5.1 when I import it to PE7?
I tried with VirtualDubMod, I tried using AC3ACM codec, but PE7 crashes with all of the files created with it.
Thanks in advance,
Sirineos

The DD AC3 CODEC is used for both 2-channel (stereo) and for 6-channel (5.1 SS).
Now, I produce all of my AC3 DD 5.1 SS from PrPro with the Minnetonka SurCode DD 5.1 SS plug-in, so cannot comment on using other programs. This THREAD (see D&R Films' Reply) steps through the production of DD 5.1 SS with Audacity, and probably another utility. As I do not need that workflow, I have never investigated it. For some reason, I cannot find Terachild's original post, but think that D&R Films has copied most of it.
Now, PrE can Import fully DD-compliant AC3 SS files, and easily into a Project set up for DD 5.1 SS, but cannot directly Export/Share to DD 5.1 SS. There will be a stereo (2-channel) mix-down. PrPro can directly Export the DD 5.1 SS, but only with the SurCode plug-in.
Good luck,
Hunt

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Workflow for using proxies and AVCHD

I'm working on a 6 camera mulitcam project of a theatrical performance and I'm using Premiere CC. The footage is all spanned AVCHD from Canon Vixia's. My machine is pretty good but no way is it going to play 6 streams of AVCHD at once (I've done 4 and that was pushing it!).
I've done a little searching on the forum and found this post:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/4877276#4877276
In particular, Fuzzy says:
The workaround is the following:
- create a folder for your proxies next to the folder containing original footages and name it e.g. AVCHD.Proxies;
- transcode your MTS files into MPEG2 ones with the same file names and MTS file extention (or run Batch Rename in Bridge after transcoding with MPG file extention);
- close your PrPro project, created out of original MTS files;
- temporarily rename AVCHD folder containing original MTS files to e.g. AVCHD.Sources and AVCHD.Proxies to AVCHD;
- open up PrPro project and enjoy: all your original AVCHD files are now linked to MPEG2 proxies.
When you're done, reverse rename folders.
This idea appeals to me but I've got a question. My files are all spanned AVCHD. It seems, in his example, that each .mts has a corresponding mpeg2. With my spanned clips, how will Premiere know how to put them together properly? I don't really mind if there is a one frame drop between the mpeg2 clips but will this majorly screw things up when I swap the proxy footage out?
Is there a better way to do things now, one year on?
Thanks in advance!

Hmmmm... still having problems.
I got back to work this morning (having spent most of the weekend and yesterday raking leaves) to find that all of the mts have successfully been transcoded into mpg clips. I added a new STREAM folder, moved the clips and changed the file extension to .mts. So far so good.
I decided not to stitch the spanned mts clips first because I'm on a Mac and I haven't found a good (free) stitcher. I have a nice Windows one that I like but i didn't have the time to move the clips to a Windows machine, stitch them and then move them back again. This may still need to be done because I'm faced with a new problem.
When I go into Premiere and try to import the mpg clips (now hiding under the .mts extension) I get the error "The file has an unsupported compression type". This happens if I use the regular import OR the Media Browser.
Any ideas? I compressed these in AME using the default "Match Source - Medium Bitrate". I used the H.264 format, not the MPEG2 format thinking that Macs like H.264 but I wonder if this is the problem
Thanks for everything, by the way. You've been more than helpful

Missing thumbnail images for AVCHD files

I never had this problem before.
In the past I would import AVCHD (*.mt2s) video files to the oganizer using Premiere Elements 7.
Then I would open Photoshop Elements 7 and the video files I just imported in Premiere Elements 7 would display their thumbnails just fine.
NOW, these thumbnails do not display.
AVCHD files that I had previously imported still display their thumbnail, but any NEW AVCHD files do not display their thumbnail images; it just displays a default video thubmbnail graphic.
Furthermore, if I select "Update thumbnail" from the context menu of a previously imported AVCHD file with a thumbnail, then the thumbnail image goes away and siaplays the default graphic.
(PLEASE NOTE: when I click the default thumbnail image, it opens the video previewer successfully. So the answer is not that the video file is missing and therefore needs to be reconnected to regenerate the thumbnail image. So else is wrong here.)
How can I get the thumbnail feature to work properly? It works fine in Premiere Elements; the thumbnails images for both new and old imported files display just fine in that program, which is what I used to be able to see in Photoshop Elements. Why is PSE7 not displaying these video thumbnail images?

I have solved this issue myself a month or two ago and forgot to report my findings.
I alspo have a Canon HD camcorder so this was a major issue for me.
The way to resolve this issue (at least in my case) was to download a codec pack like k-lite. Do a google search for the codec pack or follow this link:
http://www.codecguide.com/download_kl.htm
When I installed the codec pack, I think I had to make sure M2TS files were selected within the installation wizard so just be aware of that.
Another way to resolve this issue is to upgrade to Windows 7. After I upgraded to Windows 7, I did not have to re-install the codec. I think Windows 7 has native support for AVCHD files.
I hope this helps. If it does, please report here if you encounter anything of note worthy since the details of this process are no longer fresh on my mind.

Can we make proxies for third party

hey guys
i m just a bit confused between adapters and proxies,is it possible to create proxies for any third party system(e.g. Oracle),if not then do proxies come into play only for SAP WAS 6.0 and higher or there is some other place too where we can use proxies?
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aamir

hi,
There are 2 kinds of proxies.
1. ABAP
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ABAP proxies are used to integrate an SAP system with WAS > 6.20.
Java proxies are used to integrate XI with a J2EE or J2SE application.
Take a look at this for java proxies,
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/7d4db211-0d01-0010-1e8e-9b07fc2113ab
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I'm currently building a series of web services that take SOAP attachments as
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Thanks for the help. This is my first web service with SOAP attachments, so it
may have been a long time till I realized that.
-Brian
"Michael Wooten" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
Thanks Brian,
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"Brian McLoughlin" <[email protected]> wrote:
Sure, sorry about that. Attached is the wsdl for a sample web service
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"Michael Wooten" <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Brian,
Would it be possible for you to post the WSDL, so we can see what might
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the problem?
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"Brian McLoughlin" <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi all.
I'm currently building a series of web services that take SOAP attachments
as
input, but I am unable to generate the java proxies for testing theservices
via
WebLogic Workshop 8.1. When I attempt to build the proxy, I get the
following
error:
Warning: Failed to generate client proxy from WSDL definition for
this
service.
Suggestion: Please verify the <types> section of the WSDL.
Is there something I need to alter to get this to work, or does workshop
not support
client proxies for web services with DataHandler parameters?
Thanks.
-Brian

Proxies for third party

Hey guys
is it possible to create proxies for third party if i have WAS>6.2? suppose we are doing a File to IDOC scenario and have WAS>6.2 then is it possible to do it like Proxy(file)-XI-Proxy(IDOC) or i cant generate any proxies for Flat files?
thanx
ahmad

Answered myself.
no its not possible to create proxies for any third party,ABAP proxies are used to connect SAP systems and JAVA proxies are used to connect J2EE or J2SE .
as long as i have WAS>6.2
hope i m right?
thanx
ahmad

Mobile workflow for AVCHD

I am using MacBook Pro and capture all my video with Panasonic HDC-SD9EP-S. I use large external Firewire disks to archive (already) and cut (soon hopefully) my video. However, I spend a lot of time away from home, so I am wondering if FinalCut (Pro or Express) will allow me to apply the following workflow:
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Roger,
What is the workflow like for the newer AVCHD format hard drive and memory stick camcorders? Do you use the USB port to just pull files directly off the camcorders memory, then import these into premiere elements?
>> After connecting the camcorder to your system, you can either
1. Copy the files locally and then import them into Premiere Elements.
Or
2. Directly use Media Downloader and import files. A copy of file will be saved in the default location.
Does the camera make a separate file for each "scene" each time you turn on/off the record button that is?
>Scene Detect is available however this feature does not exist for AVCHD camcorders. For DV camcorders, one can certainly use this feature.

Generating Proxies for SAP Basis Objects?

All,
Is it possible to generate proxies for your interfaces under SAP Basis Component?
1. I checked in SPROXY on my R3 and the SAP Basis Component is not displayed here.What I also noticed is that none of the SWCV's containing Pre Delivered Integration Content is displayed in SPROXY.
Is it necessary that the options , All Objects are Modifiable and Original Objects be selected for Proxies to be generated on the SAP Shipped SWCV's?
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PS: I am able to see my custom SWCV in SPROXY and trigger proxy calls Successfully.
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>but they are already generated... do you see that ?
I did notice it. But didnt dig deep enough . Will give this a real close look tom morning .
>>>>Does this imply, that we cannot generae proxies on SAP Basis Components?
indeed
That answered my Question Thanks for the info.
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Window 7 has native support for AVCHD after the update today

"21. Improved playback support for video content from digital camcorders and cameras
Customers loved the increased range of formats natively supported by the Windows 7 Beta, but noticed areas where they wanted broader support. For example, one was unable to seek to a specific spot in the video in Windows Media Player or Windows Media Center for AVCHD content that was imported from a digital camcorder. Weve addressed this. Also, while the support for video from some digital cameras worked great, we also got feedback about supporting a broader set of devices out of the box. Weve since added support for Windows Media Player to natively support the .MOV files used to capture video for many common digital cameras. "
http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/2009/02/26/some-changes-since-beta.aspx

Windows media player 11 can play AVCHD very well on windows vista already. And the .MOV native support actually worries me. If that happens, would apple still be making quicktime for windows? will quicktime pro still be on windows? because as far as i know there was no more windows media player on the mac as soon as flip4mac(well, it was made by microsoft..) came out.

Final Cut Pro Settings For AVCHD Canon HFS100

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Hi Khorsani,
welcome to the arena.
Your version of FCP was the [first one|http://www.apple.com/support/releasenotes/en/FinalCut_Pro_6.0_rn/index.html#appleref%3Adoc%3Auid%3ATempBookID-ReplacedWhenAssociatingWithMessierRevision-CH1-SW59 ] to offer some support for AVCHD.
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http://www.apple.com/support/releasenotes/en/FinalCut_Pro_6.0rn/
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Well I would certainly agree with you if it didn't playback incredibly smooth with 1080p AVCHD footage as it does. You see I thought originally it was my computer specs (Quad-Core 3.0GHz, 4GB RAM, 10,000 RPM RAID 0, nVidia Quadro FX 1400 graphics card). So I ran some test with 1080p footage that I had shot at full bitrate (21mbps) and the realtime playback and editing worked perfectly with the 1080p editing preset. In fact it was so good, I didn't even realize I was editing HD material.
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ProRes Codecs for AVCHD- Overkill and Under-kill?

My Canon HFS100's AVCHD Bitrate is 24Mbps. Any reason to go higher quality than Pro Res Proxy? If Pro Res Proxy uses a higher bitrate (36) than the native bitrate of the Canon HFS100 (24), is there any practical benefit of using LT or even regular Pro Res as opposed to just using Proxy as your master file or are you simply creating larger quicktime files? Is there such thing as "headroom" in video editing?
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Shane Ross wrote:
Depends on your workflow. If you have the space, go with ProRes 422. If you don't care TOO much about high high quality, use LT.
This will be instructional video, starting on the web, and then ultimately going to DVD and/or Blu-Ray, I guess I should go with the standard ProRes to max out the quality. Picking up a new 500 GB or 1 TB drive when needed for additional backup won't kill me.
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Like many people on this forum I am trying to determine the best hardware to purchase for my use of Premiere Pro. For the last several years I have been using Liquid Edition but decided to move over to Premiere because of its support for AVCHD editing.
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3. Clock speed
4. Memory slots
5. Overclock ability
What are the factors in favor of the i7-960 in comparison to dual E5520:
1. Price/performance
3. Clock speed
5. Overclock ability
so that means that dual E5520 have in in their favor:
2. Double CPU's and double the number of cores
4. Twice the memory slots (12 or even 18 versus 6)
When looking at the PPBM results, the i7-960 @ 3.2 performs around equal to dual E5520 @ 2.26. So effectively double the cores and lower the clock speed gives around the same performance. However, overclocking can have a significant impact as you see in the top results and that is where dual Xeons have a problem. Servertype mobo's are very difficult to overclock if at all (the same applies to Dell XPS BTW, because of their crippled BIOS). But the servertype mobo's have double or triple the memory slots of an X58 mobo and with CS5 around the corner, that may be a distinct advantage, because you can at reasonable prices go for 24 or even 36 GB memory.
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Additionally, if I import media/an asset directly--not attached to a project--it only creates one set of proxies and no duplicates.
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