PSE8: Face Detection

I have been using Photoshop Album 1.0 to Photoshop Elements 8.0, and I have my images tagged with people already. I was hoping that version 8 would ease the burden of doing this task, but it seems to make the task more difficult. It does not use the tags I have in place...it creates new ones that are duplicates to my own (well, duplicate in name, but they are treated uniquely by PSE8).
My tag structure is something like the below:
People
Family
Dad
Mom
Child 1
etc.
Extended Family
Grandpa...
Uncle...
etc.
Friends
Friend 1...
etc.
When PSE8 starts to find faces, it begins to create tags under People like so:
People
Dad
Mom
Family
Dad
Mom
etc.
It seems like it doesn't like an ordered structure, and this is rather painful when I have ~30,000 photos already tagged. My other concern is that I don't know how PSE magically ties the tag to the facial features it's looking for. If I select all the found faces and simply re-tag them as my own, will the facial detection follow what's going on...or will I constantly be battling the program?
It's also frustrating to be required to type in the names I already have tags for. It seems ridiculous, so I wonder if I'm actually missing something about how the GUI works. Anyone have any suggestions?
Also, is there a way to see the name <-> face mappings somewhere?
Thanks!
Sam

johnrellis wrote: However, in my PSE 8, when I type in the name of a pre-existing tag exactly, Find People For Tagging will use it, rather than creating a new one, regardless where in the heirarchy the existing tag lives. Did you type in the pre-existing names exactly?
The names were both letter and case exact. It does not always happen though. It appears that labels generally do get matched up, but there are sessions that none do...and it creates all new tags.
Also, is there a way to see the name <-> face mappings somewhere?
Select a photo and do Find > Find People For Tagging.
I might be missunderstanding your answer, but what I was after was almost a directory that would show the basis pictures for which PSE is evaluating each person tag. I have seen something close during tagging sessions, but it only shows a few tags...and I can't seem to call it up directly or get the list for all the tags.
Another question is can I have a tag represent multiple people...or will this completely confuse PSE? For example, outside of my immediate family, I no longer track individuals but families as a whole. If I tell PSE that say the Dad, Mom, and Child all belong to a Family1 tag, will this work or just confuse the way PSE finds faces? I'm trying to figure this out by trial and error, but without a directory I'm not sure if it's working or not.
Thanks again!
Sam

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I transfered all my previously tagged images (before face detect feature was available) to the newly created "people" tags. For example, PSE8 face detect created a tag for Claudia (my wife), I then transfered all the photos with my wife on them that I had manually tagged before PSE8. I did that for all my "favorite" faces. Of course, all the photos added to the organizer AFTER installing PSE8 have been added using this feature
PSE8 keeps asking me "Who is this?" for older photos (added before PSE8) even when these photos are already tagged with the proper face tags.
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Should I keep "teaching" PSE8 so it recognized the faces for all my pre-PSE8 images?
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Is this common? This behavior seems only specific to her face.
Should I delete her face tag and start all over?
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Hi,
In PSE7 I had thousands of photos tagged with People tags. The way I had my people tags was somewhat odd but it worked very well for me. For example, I had one tag per person for popular poeple (my wife and daughters) but I also have one tag for one group of people (i.e. The Smiths, or my daughter's friends) where the tag would be placed in any pic with "any" member of that group. This way I did not ended up with hundreds of individual people tags and it was very easy to apply the tags.
Since I wanted to try the new face tagging feature in PSE8 (which I liked and thus will continue to use), I now have my old people tags PLUS the new face detect tags. For example, I have two tags for Claudia, my daughter and so on.
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Q2: How can I make my group tagging strategy work with the new automatic face detect tagging? which is basically a one tag for one person kind of thing.
Q3: Since we are on the subject of smart tags... I don't see the value in the auto analyze feature and thus would like to erase all those smart tags (high quality, blur, etc). Is there a way to delete these tags without deleting the face detect tags?
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Q1: What is the proper way to merge these duplicated tags? Should I just add all the photos from the old people tag to the new (face detected) tags by dragging/droping the new face tag icon to the selected pics?
Yes. Note that when using face tagging, you can type in the name of a pre-existing People tag and PSE should use that tag (at least it does in my catalog). But you need to type it in exactly -- otherwise, PSE will create a new one. Once you've typed an existing People tag once into face tagging, PSE will then "auto-complete" it in the future.
Q2: How can I make my group tagging strategy work with the new automatic face detect tagging? which is basically a one tag for one person kind of thing.
I think you need to bite the bullet and create one tag for each person. But the auto-complete tag-typing feature of PSE should make that easier than when you had to painfully scroll your tag heirarchy and drag over a tag.
Q3: Since we are on the subject of smart tags... I don't see the value in the auto analyze feature and thus would like to erase all those smart tags (high quality, blur, etc). Is there a way to delete these tags without deleting the face detect tags?
Does anyone see the value of Auto-Analyzer? :-; To delete one of those tags, check it to show just the photos with that tag. Then do Edit > Select All, right click Remove Keyword Tag.

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These are some rules I have slowly discovered that have helped improve the accuracy of iPhotos' face detection.
a. Don't force iPhoto to recognize *+every single+* instance of an individuals face. (If you need to create a location containing every instance of an individual, then you need to setup a Smart Folder using the persons' name as a Description or Keyword. "Faces" is not the section to do this. See a suggestion below for using "Faces" to do this.)
b. Avoid confirming really poor quality examples of a persons face (low light, pixelated, off in the distance, etc)
c. Avoid confirming only partially visible faces (hair covering half the face, head turned away to a profile, extreme angles too high or too low, etc)
d. Avoid too many instances in which the person's eyes are closed. (Obviously, sunglasses are a real problem here as well)
e. Avoid instances where the persons head is tilted 45 degrees or more, unless the software recognizes the face on it's own.
f. Avoid instances where the face has areas of heavy shadow, and the light source is at right angles to the face. (Outdoors with Sun directly overhead or near horizon.) If face is in an "even" shadow that seems to be OK.
g. Clearly, the more full frontal, clearly lit views of an individuals' face you can include, the better the face detection will be.
h. If you do use the "Add Missing Face" button, then restrict the selection box to just around the eyebrows, nose and mouth. Avoid selecting the whole head since the face detection software concentrates on the features in the center of the face. No need to include the hair as it does not appear to be a factor.
*Gathering Every Instance of a Persons' Face*
Here is how you could use "Faces" to gather every photo of an individual, yet maintain its' face detection accuracy. Mind you, this may only be practical with relatively small libraries, not libraries with 10's of thousands of photos.
1. First, go ahead and name *+every instance+* of an individuals' face (Even poor quality examples).
2. Then, within the "Faces" corkboard section, open that persons' album and "Select All" of their photos (Do this before the Faces scan is complete or you will also select all of the suggested faces under "So-and_So may also be in the photos below")
3. Next, create "New Album from selection..." and give it the name of the person. (Alternatively, you could "Batch Change..." all the selected photos with a "Description" using the persons' name and then use a "Smart Album" to gather all of the persons' photos. This could be handy for adding future photos of the person automatically to the Smart Album.)
4. Once that is complete, now "Reject" all poor quality, or partially visible examples of the persons' face within Faces. This will improve the software's future accuracy at detecting the persons' face in new photos added to the library.
If, at a future date, you add another large group of photos containing that persons' face, you can repeat steps 1 & 2 and simply drag all the photos to the persons' Album. Or "Batch Change..." the Description again to automatically include the newly added photos to the Smart Album you created earlier.
In the end I have discovered that the Faces section of iPhoto is really more a "tool" for creating Albums, rather than a destination for viewing photos.
Hope this helps. Feel free to add any suggestions you have discovered for improving the face detection accuracy.
Cheers

Glenn Carter wrote:
h. If you do use the "Add Missing Face" button, then restrict the selection box to just around the eyebrows, nose and mouth. Avoid selecting the whole head since the face detection software concentrates on the features in the center of the face. No need to include the hair as it does not appear to be a factor.
Apparently you shouldn't worry too much about what you select for the face area when using "Add Missing Face"... From Apple's knowledgebase at http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3427:
Note: Only faces that have been automatically detected in your photo library will help iPhoto match faces. Manually identified faces will not aid iPhoto's face-matching ability.
So, unless they later come out with an update that actually uses that data, any effort you make in selecting especially accurate face regions is going to waste. (Though I'll admit I'm still putting in the effort in the hope that the data will someday be used for something in a future version of iPhoto...)

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