PSE8 Organizer with PSE9 Editor

I'm trying to use the PSE8 Organizer with the PSE9 Editor (don't like what they did to folder view in PSE9 Organizer).   I've tried to do it two ways: by setting the PSE9 Editor as a supplemental editor and by replacing all the files in the Photoshop Elements 8.0 directory with the files from the Photoshop Elements 9 directory.
The supplemental editor method results in:
a new version of the file being opened is created in      the organizer each time and that file is what is pulled into the editor (it's named _edited_# and added to a version set of the original each time)
can only get into edit from the edit menu (ie,      supplemental editor doesn't appear in right click drop down) - can learn      to live with this if item 1 can be corrected.
Files don't get locked in the Organizer when they get      opened - can learn to live with this, too
Replacing the files in the directory results in
The PSE9 editor opens when selecting "Edit with      Photoshop Elements" from right click drop down (or from Edit menu) but it doesn't bring a       file into the editor.
If I use the open command from the editor, it brings      the file in but doesn't lock it
Same problem with not recognizing the Organizer as      above.
Anyone have any ideas?
Note: I poked around in the registry a little but nothing jumped out at me immediately (adding the key for "CurrentCatalogPath" in the 9.0 section of Elements Organizer under the CURRENT_USER software key stopped the message that the organizer wasn't being used but still did not allow me the options to save changes in the Elements Organizer or add to version set)

I agree with your view point about PSE 8 Organizer. I also like it better for the same reason.. My work around is having 2 monitors. I keep PSE8 organizer on the left and PSE9 Editor on the right. Then I drag across. My catalog paths and settings in Both organizers is the same. Edited items from PSE9 will show up in 8....make sure your "watched folders" settings are set and the same in both organizers. Its a bit clunky...but it works for me...but I'm just a new guy to PSE.

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At the forum level, there is no instantaneous reply. And, there is no "how long before I get someone to post in my thread" expectation.
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