Puppet Warp - ignore unlinked layer mask

When I am using puppet warp to transform a layer with an unlinked layer mask, the layer mask does not remain in place, it is being warped along with the layer I am working on. This seems to be a bug since the normal transform tools allow the layers to be modified without affecting the mask while it is unlinked.
Grouping the layer by itself and putting the layer mask on the group while I'm using puppet warp to transform the layer works fine and is really not that inconvenient I suppose.
The image I am working on is a large scan of an old map with 12 pages, I'm basically trying to line up all the pages into a seamless image, and so each layer has a mask to hide the margins of each page. I really don't want to have to create a group for each layer just to have each mask stay in place while I'm adjusting the pages. I also do not want to "erase" the margins by applying the layer masks before using puppet warp.
Is this something that will be "fixed" in Photoshop?

I think Puppet Warp is intended to include transparency in the form of Layer Masks, so it seems unlikely that this behaviour will be changed.
You could temporarily turn off the Layer Masks by shift-clicking them.
If you want to make a Feature Request, please post over at
http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/

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As a professional PS artist who works on files with sometimes hundreds of layers, I often need to transform many layers or groups at once. It is a nightmare to find that after the transformation, a mask did not get included in the transformation, (especially when the file is many gigs large, and the transformation took 15 minutes). Sometimes, a mask is accidentally unlinked, but more commonly I unlink it temporarily, but forget to relink it. There is currently no way that I'm aware of to find these pesky unlinked layers, other than going through every single one. What would work great is to have a popup asking if you would like to relink all unlinked layers, whenever you're transforming multiple layers that include one or more unlinked masks. Or else have an option in the layers palette to either select or relink all unlinked layered masks. Hope this makes sense. Cheers!

Michael,
It looks like you are right! Thank you for your help.
I still have a small concern. I looked at the documentation and it reads,
"The configuration settings for a cache instance are stored in the USER_SDO_CACHED_MAPS metadata view. You should normally not manipulate this view directly, but should instead use the MapViewer administration tool, which uses this view to configure map cache instances."
But, I tried inserting records into USER_SDO_CACHED_MAPS and it works, and I can't really see any reason not to directly insert records into this table, so...
Perhaps that warning is there simply because potentially you could screw things up tinkering with the table directly.
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I have a problem with masks and puppet warp tool. I use masks to hide parts of content in my layers. afterwards i want to transform layers using puppet warp. after doing so soft edges of my masks are destroyed, - i have to edit / redo my masking. why is this, am i doing somthing wrong? photoshop cs6, win 64bit . thank you.

Okay, thanks! Should have tried out some effects before I posted the question here. Apologies. Warping an entire animation is rather easy: I just make an animated gif that would look good on a flat surface, and then I apply a mesh warp or some effect like that to the layer on the timeline. In this case, I warp without adding keyframes, so the animation is warped in the same way throughout the animation.
Lesson learned: first dive into the software, THEN look for relevant questions and ask one..

Please help! How do I unlink a mask from a layer in Motion?

How do I "unlink" a mask from a layer so when the object on the layer moves, the mask stays still?
(Similar to how you unlink a mask in Photoshop by clicking on the link icon beside the layer thumbnail)ghgh
This is propably very simple, but I can´t figure this out or find it anywhere searching on the net or in the manual (already wasted almost two hours on this and my deadline is coming uncomfortably close...)
Hope somebody can help I´m getting desperate now

Would moving the mask to the Group containing the layer you want to animate give you the result you're looking for?
Your layers list would look like this:
If there are other layers in the group, then you would need to nest the masked group so as to not affect the other layers.
You could also add a shape and use that as an image mask which includes a stencil option.
Draw your shape
Select the image you want to mask
Add Image Mask (shift+command+m) via the object menu
Drag your shape to the image mask
Your layer list would look like this:

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I have been having this issue with certain uses of Puppet Warp and I'm not sure if it's how I'm using, the settings I have for the warp or my computer.
It happens on two different MacBook Pros with 8GB of RAM, on Mac OS X 10.8.4
I will spend about 40 minutes warping a photo converted to a Smart Object so that it looks like it's wrapping around a blanket like so:
This usually works just fine. I can save the file, and edit the photo more as time goes on and nothing is odd... until I save and come back to the file later.
When I open the file and try to edit the photo in the Smart Object, reduce the size of the entire image, or even just double-click on the Puppet Warp filter on the layer panel, it does this:
The pins are way off the board, the image looks like it's split into different parts and the only way to get it back is to Undo any changes. The settings for the Puppet Warp are: Normal, Normal, 2px
The image is 7"x5" at 240dpi.
This doesn't happen with all of my Puppet Warped images, but this one shows this behavior every single time. At one point I went in and recreated the Smart Object and Puppet Warp and it did the exact same thing after I was finished. This happens in both CS6 and the new CC versions of Photoshop.
Has anyone ever seen anything like this and if so, is there a solution?
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Thanks for the suggestions. I couldn't come up with any one method to fix the problem. I tried different documents, building the asset without masks of any kind, smaller resolution etc. It did the exact same thing every single time.
I finally just settled with using the other Warp transform method since I ran out of time for delivery.
I'll keep a lookout for anything that may cause this in the future, but it sure is frustrating.
Thanks again!

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In CC 2014, I'm not getting realistic looking results when using the Puppet Warp tool.
1. Is it better to place more pins or fewer ones?
2. Is this tool designed to make very subtle changes to an image or is it realistic to expect big changes to the composition of an image with it?
Thanks.

You are not wrong. Puppet Warp is a bit like Refine Edge in that it is not as intuitive as some of the tutorials would have us believe. I still struggle with it. All I can suggest is picking the best tutorials by going to Adobe TV
http://tv.adobe.com/videos/puppet-warp/
If it is going wrong, rather than trying to make the most of a bad job, start again with better pin placement. If you still end up with what looks more like a boneless string puppet than a real person, use tools like Liquify to put things right. Run a work path around the perfect outline, and use that to make a selection from which to use the clone tool to fix inside the mask, and a layer mask to fix pixels that have strayed outside the ideal profile.
Lots of PW pins are good for anchoring the bits you don't want to move, but less pins are better for the bits you do want to move. Look at photographs that approximate your intended new shape, and use them to work out how the rest of the body (if that's what you are warping) would interact/react with your new shape. Or just mime the action yourself, and see where your other limbs, and the rest of your body should look.

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When working with a layer mask, my paintbrush isn't showing up on the image. I can see the brush strokes on the layer mark in the layers sidebar, but no brush strokes on the image itself.
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I think you are not understanding how layers and layer masks work.
Look at the following illustration. The layers panel shows that the left of the image (The right is simply to make room for the layers panel and should be ignored) has solid blocks of red, green and blue. The layer mask in the top layer (red) has a black rectangle which conceals that area of the layer, revealing the underlying layer.
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The Green layer also has a (smaller) black rectangle, so we can see the blue layer below that.
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I have CS4, is there any way to change the shape of a layer mask while using the existing one?
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Convert your layer to a smart object by right clicking to the right of
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in the layers panel.
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Hi,
I've been having a problem with Puppet warp for some versions now. I thought CC would fix it but it did not.
I use the puppetwarp feature on smartobject mainly but the bug also appears on regular pixel layers as well. I set some pins so the part of the image I don't want to distort don't move, and some where I want the image to distort. All is well, then I distort the image the way I want and all looks like everthing is ok, hit OK. Now on a lot of images, the resulting distortion just chops off some little part of the image, like corners or edges. not a lot, but diffenitly noticable. This makes the feature almost useless to me because I never know if it's going to work correctly or not, and it is mostly NOT working correctly. Anyone else experiencing these cutting part/edge issue with puppet warp?
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