Question about MSI 870S C45....Please read

Hey,
I have been looking to upgrade for a while now but holding back untill Bulldozer comes out.
I just want to know if my MSI 870S C45 will be compatible with AMD Bulllcozer when it comes out ?
Cheers

Hello All,
YES Its supported...
See my full reply here on the forums in another post!
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=153325.0

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Sorry for my bad english((
M/B: MSI 870-C45 (MS-7599 v1.2)
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After unlocking - stable 100%, but <50°C temp of CPU. At 50°C comp off. No BSOD, No reset. OFF!
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Quote from: phants on 09-January-11, 20:17:51
You couldn't let out the following version BIOS with support of an option of switching-off hardware thermal monitor?
No point asking me, I don't work for MSI.
Quote from: phants on 09-January-11, 20:09:59
Verifyed!
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Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) BEFORE you post, PLEASE read this first

PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS POST BEFORE POSTING ON THE FORUM FOR THE FIRST TIME!
Welcome to the Creative Labs MP3 Players web forum!
This forum is for discussing issues related to the MP3 players (digital audio players) made by Creative Labs for those in the Americas, Europe and Asia Pacific . Although we're not going to turn away folks from other areas
The primary language of the forum is English, and posting in English is likely to get you a quicker response.
If your question does not relate to Creative MP3 players please find another more suitable forum to post in. If you want to discuss another player, or something not covered by another forum, please use the Off Topic forum.
CONTENTS
How to contact support
Hot topics
General issues
Before you ask your question
When you ask your question
After you ask your question
Low volume issue
Nomad Primer
Nomadness.net FAQs
More useful links
Wishlist and petitions
Suggesting changes
. How to Contact Support
Please note this is a peer forum and Creative's Support staff do not guarantee a reply here. If your issue is urgent, you are within your warranty period and/or you do not get a fast reply here you should contact Creative Labs Technical Support.
To contact support click the Support > Contact Customer Support link on this page.
When contacting Creative Support by email it's important to note that you must reply to the autoresponse email you first receive, as detailed in the email itself. Also make sure to check any spam trap you have on your email system if you have not received a reply.
It's also important if you feel that you have a bug or defect with your product to register that issue directly with support. Don't rely on the forum to raise awareness of an issue.
2. Hot Topics
This is dividied into 3 sections: General, Tag based players & USB mass storage players.
Make sure to also look at Section 3, which covers some of the other General Issues.
General
Where do I get the latest software, drivers and firmware?
Click the link Support > Downloads on this page.
In general, when installing on a new PC you need to download the driver, and some software to communicate with the player e.g. MediaSource, Media Explorer. For players using the v2.xx MTP/PlayForsure firmware drivers are not necessary, but you must have Windows XP and Windows Media Player 0 (this provides the MTP driver).
Important: Even though files are described as updates, none of the software requires a previous version to install. At worst they will prompt you to connect your player to verify you own a Creative product.
Note if you are downloading MediaSource make sure to download and install the relevant MediaSource plugin for your player. If MediaSource can't detect your player this is the first thing to check. For the v.xx PDE firmware the plugin is called the Creative Zen and NOMAD Jukebox plugin for Creative MediaSource , and for the v2 MTP/PlayForSure firmware it's called Creative MediaSource Plugin for PlaysForSure devices .
I am completely new to MP3 players, where should I start?
Have a read of my Nomad Primer, so called as Creative's MP3 player range tend to be prefixed with the word Nomad.
I think I have a bug, how can I check?
There's a known bug list hosted at my site here. If you want to add a bug then please
I have a wish request for the player, what can I do?
You can post it here (see the petitions listed in Section of this FAQ), email it to support, and/or add it to the public wishlist I host here by
I'm having connection problems with my player
If you can, the best test is to try your player with another PC, to see if you still have the problem. This localises whether the problem is with the PC (most likely the USB) or the player. See the link below (search on "connection problems") for a lot more troubleshooting on this.
What bit-rate should I encode my music at?
Ultimately it's down to your ears what bit-rate you prefer, and you should listen for yourself to determine it. If you ask on the forum you'll get many different opinions.
Make sure to look at the "MP3 vs. WMA" link below also.
How long should my battery last?
For the Zen and Nomad Jukebox players, to get some idea of how long your battery will last for a given bit-rate look at the battery curves thread. Ultimately battery life is dependent on how you use the player, make sure to follow the "why doesn't my battery last as long as expected?" link below.
How long does an RMA take?
Typically 2 weeks. But it might take a little longer, so don't start posting if it's 5 days.
I want to know how people feel about their Zen Micro/Touch/MuVo etc.
There's a long post titled Experience with your Creative player that has many posts from users about their players. Please search back for threads about specific players before starting a new thread.
Where can I buy online music or get legal downloads for my player?
See this thread.
My tracks don't play at the correct speed e.g. they play too slowly, why?
Chances are they are encoded in an unsupported sampling frequency. The tracks will need to be re-encoded at a supported bit-rate and/or frequency with something like Creative's MediaSource Audio Converter or dbPowerAmp.
Can a Creative player work on an Apple Mac?
It isn't officially supported, but some kind folks out there have written freeware applications to get your Creative player working with Macs. XNJB provides support for the Zen players, and requires OS X 0.3 or 0.4 (check the site for full details). MuVoHelper solves some problems with getting the MuVo to work optimally. The iTunes Zen plugin should support all Zen players. Note if the link to the plugin is broken just Google "iTunes Zen plugin" to find other sources. Also note there's no guarantee that these programs will work with the Mac, so if you have issues you should address your problems to the developer(s) of the relevant program.
Can a Creative player work on Linux?
Again it isn't officially supported, but again some kinds folks out there have written freeware applications to get your Creative player working. There's the Gnomad2 project. And don't forget the Linux forum at Nomadness.net if you are still having problems.
Tag Based Players
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My Zen is not behaving properly, won't startup, or goes into rescue mode. What should I do?
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If this doesn't work then access rescue mode, and try running a disk cleanup.
Next you should try reloading the firmware/OS, but beware if you are having connection problems also with your PC you may end up with a player that has no firmware and cannot be reloaded.
The last resort is to format the player. This will erase the contents from the player, including the content that ships with the player.
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If you aren't under warranty Creative will still repair the player, which you can arrange by contacting support.
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Refer to the sticky Rescue Mode thread. Disk Cleanup is accessed from this. Note that the MuVo players (with the exclusion of the MuVo? players) do not have Rescue Mode.
How long should a Disk Cleanup take?
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How long should a format take?
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Although I can get into Rescue Mode, I can't select any option, or the options don't work?
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The Zen 20Gb is available from some shops in the USA and Europe e.g. Cambridge Soundworks, and Amazon.co.uk.
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Should I buy the Zen Micro or Touch etc. and what colour should it be?
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Why does my Zen Micro battery drain so quickly?
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Also see JazzMC's detailed page on this problem.
Why is my Zen Micro/Touch Touchpad so sensiti've and/or difficult to use?
The Touchpads take some time to get used to.
continued below... Message Edited by SSR on 2-29-2005 04:03 PM

7. Low Volume issue
See here in the Zen FAQ at Nomadness.net.
If the firmware will not apply because it says the version number is the same use the Reload OS option, access to which is described in the relevant FAQ for your player below.
8. Nomad Primer
If you have ordered, or just bought a Nomad Jukebox, Zen, or MuVo?, consider reading the Nomad Primer.
It may be worth reading even for the more experienced User.
9. Nomadness.net FAQ's
General FAQ
Jukebox FAQ
Jukebox 2 FAQ
Jukebox 3 FAQ
Jukebox Zen FAQ
MuVo FAQ
Nomadness.net is the foremost peer site on the Web for the Nomad players on the Internet; with news, articles, web forum, download archi've, and more!
0. Some more useful links
Nomadworld.com - Creative Labs's International Nomad website (based in the USA)
Player Manuals - Downloads of digital manuals
Notmad Explorer - 3rd party software
Battery Uni'versity - very good, comprehensi've site on batteries
Chinese Support thread - with information on how to get chinese characters on your player
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Zen Micro
Zen Micro (another)
MuVo Sports C00
MuVo N200
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TXT viewer
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Zen Touch non-PlayForSure firmware with bug fixes
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Hiya
I've seen this board advertised as AM3+ Ready so i was wondering if there is a BIOS out beta or Final that enables bulldozer processors
Thanks
Lemonzest

Hiya All,
I just purchased the 870s-c45 board and an FX bulldozer cpu....
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Bios update]http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/CPUs+%2F+Processors/AMD+Bulldozer+FX/AMD+Bulldozer+FX-4100+3.60GHz+%283.80GHz+Turbo%29+Socket+AM3%2B+4-Core+Processor+-+Retail+FD4100WMGUSBX+?productId=46818&rqcType=q#rqc[url]
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2. It wasn't apparent at all that in order to create a 'Tabset' and a 'Parent Tab', I had to first create a 'Standard Tab' (Child Tab). This just seems completely backwards. (Maybe I'm just to old).
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7. Related to above, there are two different 'areas' (or screens) that are called 'Edit Standard Tabs'. One gives you the grid listing of all of the tabs ('Parent Tabs' and 'Child Tabs'), while the other one is the editing of characteristics of an individual 'Child Tab'.
8. On the 'Edit Standard Tabs' grid listing, it sure would be nice to be able to edit the 'Parent Tab' here, it would save a lot of clicking back and forth.
9. On the 'Edit Standard Tabs' individual tab characteristics screen, it would also be nice to have the previous and next arrows to go the other tabs, like what you get when editing page items. This seems another area of inconsistentcy.
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11. If you click the 'Edit Parent Tabs', all you get is an abbreviated grid listing of some of the characteristics of the 'Parent Tab'. In order to edit (or see) all the characteristics, you must click "Edit Standard Tabs" (or use the graphical selection) to get the 'Edit' icon and then you can edit all of the properties. This seems to be another area of inconsistency.
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Thanks for reading this. I was just so frustrated trying to figure these out that I had to vent. This area of Apex is not consistent with the rest of Apex and very confusing and tedious.
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Some questions about MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum nForce4 Ultra

Hi to all!
First of all sorry for my bad english :P
I have some questions regarding this motherboard that i would like to buy.
I've red some times ago that nForce 4 chipset had a bug with the HyperTransport (or similar) so all the motherboards with this chipset were post-poned. Now the german MSI site has posted a press-release of the MSI Neo4 saying that mass-volumes distribution will be in mid december.
I would like to know if some Neo4 were distribuited before nVidia found the bug and (if so) if there's a method to identify the "good" from the "bugged" versions.
The second question is about the possible heatsink. I would like to install a Zalman CNPS-7700 AlCu (with 12x12 silent fan) but I dunno if the heatsink "dimensions" could create problems to some motherboard component.
Thanks!

Hi to all!
First of all sorry for my bad english :P
I have some questions regarding this motherboard that i would like to buy.
I've red some times ago that nForce 4 chipset had a bug with the HyperTransport (or similar) so all the motherboards with this chipset were post-poned. Now the german MSI site has posted a press-release of the MSI Neo4 saying that mass-volumes distribution will be in mid december.
I would like to know if some Neo4 were distribuited before nVidia found the bug and (if so) if there's a method to identify the "good" from the "bugged" versions.
The second question is about the possible heatsink. I would like to install a Zalman CNPS-7700 AlCu (with 12x12 silent fan) but I dunno if the heatsink "dimensions" could create problems to some motherboard component.
Thanks!

Questions About MSI Z87-GD65 System fan Currents!

Hi,
I have a few questions on the MSI Z87-GD65 System Fan currents. I want to hook up 2-4 120mm case fans together through a PWM Female to 4 x PWM Male Computer Case Fan Splitter and connect it to one of the SYSfans on the Motherboard, but I am unsure about the current limit on the SYSfan1-3 on the motherboard. Also I was unsure if I needed to have a 4-pin connector or 3-pin connector. On the online manual it says that for Sysfans1-3
Pin #1 is Ground
Pin #2 Is Speed Control
Pin #3 is Sense
And Pin #4 is NC
What does NC mean? Do I need a 3 pin or 4 pin connector?
Thank You For any assistance!

NC isn't used.
The sys fans you only need to get a 3 wire fan for the cpu fans a 4 wire fan would be indicated.
The amp rating is 1amp I believe.
If you want to really control and monitor your fans, it is best to use an outside fan controller. I use the Corsair Link in one of my computers which I like, but is overkill.

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I've just got the board and updated to the latest bios, everything is ROCK STABLE with my HyperX 3500 ram at rated timings( a suprise since ive read that they wouldn't!).
Now the questions:
1. After update to 1.2 BIOS the temp in BIOS appeared as 64 degreas C! CoreCenter says 30 idle as before.....EDIT: After yet another restart the temp is back to normal in BIOS?!
2. In version 1.1 I noticed that the vcore options were available upto 1.625 now with this BIOS ists 1.55V.....I saw that the BIOS contained some vcore settings updates, but never thought that this would be it.....
So far very impressed with the board, installation was easy and the system is rock solid from day 1.....

1.2 BIOS puts the max vCore to 1.55 just like you said, and after your BIOS is cleared at first boot up you will always get a bad temp reading, only after a restart will you get the correct temp reading. It is quite annoying when you are building with this mobo for the first time but I figured it out after I tightened my timings to much and had to reset the BIOS about 15 times, looking for the best performance possible. It would be nice if MSI fixed that temp problem.

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