Question on compound clips

The new behavior of compound clips starting in 10.0.6 does not work for me as I thought I understood it. I added a still clip to the timeline and attached a second still clip to it. I then created a compound clip which was fine. I then added a depth of field blur mask effect to the compound clip in the timeline. The compound clip in the event brouser did not change. I added another instance of the compound clip from the brouser to the timeline and it was the original ie no blur. I then added an aged paper effect to the second instance of the compound clip and the first one did not update to reflect that effect. Again the brouser compound clip remained the original. Do I totally not understand what is supposed to happen or am I doing something wrong? I do see the reference new parent clip in the clip menu when I select the compound clip in the timeline but have not tried it.

Both should change, as they are locked together, unless you use the Create New Parent command, then you get a duplicate of the original CC.
First, try quitting and relaunching FCP X, see of that helps.
If not, get the free "Preference Manager" from Digital Rebellion (dot com) and use it to quickly and safely trash FCP X's pref files. See if that helps.
If that doesn't help, move the Final Cut Pro app from the Applications folder to the Trash (your Projects and Events will be safe, don't worry). Then launch the App Store, to the Purchases section, click "Install" to the right of Final Cut Pro X. The reinstall make fix it.
But it should indeed work as you expect it to.

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How to Create a Generic Compound Clip?

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Other times, seemingly doing the same thing, I am forced to give the new clip a name, which then becomes an Event. It seems hit and miss -- sometimes I am asked to name them, sometimes not.
The problem is, that in reusing elements from previous episodes, when editing the named Compound Clip, the Event is edited, and the older episodes are affected.
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Thanks,
Geoff

Thanks Tom. I am not aware of doing anything different between the two results. I simply select a bunch of clips, then right-click "New Compound Clip...". Sometimes it just does it, other times I get a dialog asking me to give it a name and choose the Event folder.
Perhaps I am incorrect, but I have done this for a long time, and never noticed what I am doing differently. Today, I am unable to reproduce the 'generic' compound clip.
Sorry I can't at this stage be more precise, but I admit that I must be doing something different to get the different results. I do have clips in my project that are simply called 'Compound Clip', and they do not belong in any Event (clicking on 'Reveal in Event Browser' does nothing). This is what I prefer.
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Compound clip re-rendering

Is it just me or are compound clips the very devil when it comes to rendering?
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Thanks..

The main question is why can you NOT stabilize a Compound Clip???
The reason is this..
There was a dust spec on my camera sensor... I also need to stabilize the shot... When I stabilize the shot, the spot dances around (as it would).. I want to blur that small part of the frame and then stabilize it, but the stabilizer doesn not match move my small blur matte with the rest of the clip... the blur remains in the same place and does not follow the newly stabilized frame... If I blur my spec, then make a compound clip (to stabilize), It does not allow me to
If I stabilize it first, then clean it up, I have to track the dust spot flying all over the place. I want to clean up the dust first, since it is stationary in the original frame.
Does that make sense??
What I am doing now is time consuming... I'm cleaning up my dust spec, exporting the shot, then re-importing it and then stabiliizing it.. It's a lot more work and I have a lot of shots to do.. And I wish I could export specific shots or a time frame of my timeline rather than crating a new timline just to isolate shots to export....

Compound clip imported into project not showing up in the event browser

I have learnt that when one imports any clip into the project from anywhere else other than its associated event folder, the new clip also gets automatically added into the event folder. I have seen this occur when I had imported audio from the music browser onto my timeline directly.
Today I happened to place a compound clip [a common template which I use for introduction to the video] onto the beginning of a project which I have started recently. I broke the compound clip apart and made the necessary edits. What puzzles me is that this compound clip has an audio clip and this clip was not being shown in the event browser. Is this normal?
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DR.SOMANNA

Let me explain the matter in a different way...
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Crashed during conform clip, now won't open compound clips!

I have a project where I went inside a compound clip to conform the clip speed (it was previously retimed but shouldn't have been).
At this point FCP X crashed. After restarting now I cannot open any compound clips in a timeline.
This is deadly. I assume the project file got broken during the crash somehow.
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Magic Feather wrote:
Yep. This happend to us last week. This is what you're going to need to do to get the cc back.
Create a new project. Drag the compound clip in question into it from your event browser. Break the compound apart and you should be ok. This will incur crashes at each step, but if you're patient you'll get it back.
Did you start this project in 10.0.7 and update the project a few weeks back? Sometimes little quirks like this happen when you update when you're in the middle of a project. It's no consolation, I know, but I think that is where it's coming from.
Please let us know if this works...
Thanks. Will try that. Total pain as nearly a hundred compound clips in this project that were created to solve a different problem!
Yes project started in 10.0.7 and updated to 10.0.8 yesterday.

Simple title shows up as missing compound clip after 10.1 update

None of my projects had any missing files prior to updating to 10.1. It all went quite smoothly with the exception of one project that has three or four clips that now show up as compound clips, but they were not compound clips in the original. One is a simple scrolling title. If I open the supposed compound clip in the timeline it looks like this:
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You may soon develop a reputation for knowing something about this program, Tom.
Thanks very much. Now to research on why a project that was in the Updated Projects "folder" and then dragged to an event has disappeared entirely...but I'll post that question if I can't find the answer.

Compound clip will not open

I'm running FCPX 10.1.1 in OS 10.9.2. Starting today, when I attempt to open a certain compound clip, I get a beach ball that spins for minutes. How can I open that compound clip without the beach ball?
I have restarted the computer and that doesn't seem to help.
Yesterday I removed a project and many unused clips from the library in which the compound clip resides. I certainly hope I don't have to redo all that clean-up work in order to be able to open the problematic compound clip.

Thank you, Russ, for your diagnostic questions.
Looking at this thread and your posts in another thread, it sounds like your issues go beyond a specific compound.
That's correct.
Are you having beachballs and poor response on all projects or just this one project?
The problems might be in just this one library. In another library I have a project, also created before 10.1, similar in complextity to the problematic project, for which Final Cut performs very well.
Is this a project that was created in 10.1 or an earlier version?
The project was created in an earlier version, when events and projects were separate and there were no libraries.
How are your libraries organized and stored? For example, do you have big libraries with a lot of events in them? Are the libraries on a drive separate from your boot drive?
I do not have big libraries with lots of events. Each library contains all the media for a single dance concert. If the dance concert ran for more than one night then there is an event for each of the nights. The library in question contains four events. All my libraries are on an external drive.
How much free space is on your boot drive?
The 1 TB boot drive has 600 GB of free space.
I'm working in OS 10.9.2 on a 3.4 GHz 27-inch iMac with 16 GB of RAM. The external drives are all FW 800.
One other persistent problem is that I have to force quit Final Cut whenever I switch between original and proxy media. When I restart Final Cut the switch to the other type of media has been made. This problem seems to be restricted to the problematic library. It does not occur in the other library I mentioned in my answer to your second question.
Perhaps I can solve my problems by copying everything from the problematic library into a new library.

Is there a way to see all my compound clips created on the timeline, in the browser as an accessible thumbnail list....?

I am facing a problem that
due to big footage I first extracted the seemingly fine clips in chunks in one timeline in various layers which is still enormous for my RAM
now I have to take out smaller and more appropriate bits from this timeline
I have opened another timeline where I just copy paste the best shots from my previous enormous timeline and this works fine due to less media for 6gb RAM mac pro
but it is really tedious to go back and forth to copy paste
it would be so wonderful if I could extract those bits from the clips just like we do with any other new footage from the browser window with all the clips visible
I think one way can be to export these compound clips seperately and import them as events into the browser but that would be a generation loss
is there any other way.....? to view these compound clips infront of my eyes all at once or keeping all that footage on the timeline besides the finalising layer is the only option...?
I am facing this rare problem because I'm editing a music video and no shot is more than 2 seconds and that too from several groups of footage that has to be mixed.....so all the data has to be visible to decide if a bit of guitar piece would look good here or drums or close up or long shot.....so everything has to be seen....can you suggest me a smarter workaround please ?

Thank you.Ok say for e.g.
500 video files imported in fcpx
800 clips extracted from these obviously on the timeline and joined/compounded according to their content in say 15 layers according to 15 instruments used ,so now just to see the entire usable footage ....
now one 7 minute song sequence has to be made where bits would be simultaneously taken from these 15 layers as all instruments are playing simultaneously
these shots are not more than 2 secs each according to the beat........
when I try to work with these 15 layers as well as the Final primary layer that I'm making in the same timeline my fcpx becomes slow
but when I drag individual layer to individual timelines it is fine so that is the only option
but now for every 2 second bit I have to go back to the 15 layered timeline and find one single suitable shot
So I was wondering is there a way to be able to see these layers and clips on the timeline in the browser in a systematic fashion like the way we get with keywords ?
and keywords can only be used in the imported clips already in the browser ,and not after we drag it on the timeline.....
Till now I think exporting and importing back is the only option ...but is there another work around ?

How do I move a compound clip in one event to another event when it is used in a project?

I've been using FCPX since 10.0.3. The recent upgrade to 10.1 is forcing me to reorganize everything. At some point during the upgrade cycle, Apple decided to store ALL compound clips inside events, automatically, upon creation. I was oblivious to this decision at first. So here's what happened as a result.
I have 10 projects, numbered 1 through 10. My goal was to have one event for each project. However, it looks like most of my compound clips from my later projects got automatically created and placed in the first event (Video 1) instead of in the correctly numbered event. I'm pretty sure the clips INSIDE the compound clips are referencing the correct event; it's just the compound clip itself that resides in the wrong event. I'd like to move these compound clips over to the event they SHOULD have been created in, in the first place. However, I'm not sure if dragging and dropping them to the correct event will (a) create a new copy of the compound clip (one that is not referenced by any project whatsoever), or (b) move the original compound clip to the right event (removing it from the original/wrong event). Also, I'm really concerned about this, because I'm not sure how this affects the compound clip as used inside the actual project. I often have certain effects, color correction, etc. applied to the compound clip itself, and I don't want to lose that.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I really want to get these clips in order.

You can freely drag compound clips between events as you've seen.
If you do this between events in the same library, it will be a move by default; holding down the Option key will make it a copy operation.
If you drag between events in different libraries, this will be a copy operation. All clips contained in the compound clip will also be copied (or references as sym links) to the target library in order to keep the library completely self-contained (libraries never references each other and never span volumes).
Mark

How do I share a compound clip between projects?...

Hello everyone,
I have created a 10 second intro/title graphic clip in Motion and published it to FCPX. I have added this generator sequence to a project's timeline in FCPX. I then added a lower third title set. I have edited my text (font, style, etc) of my lower third text to where I want it. I then created a compound clip of the two parts (title generator and the lower third text element).
Now that it is dialed in, I need to be able to use it as a template for a series of videos I am working on. I can't seem to find a way to save it and make it availible to drop into other project sequences. I have tried to make a favourite out of the clip, I tried to copy and paste between projects (and into a new event)... nothing works fo rme.
What am I missing?
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Hi Andy
Thank you for the advice.
I tried your method but there definitely seems to be a fault or glitch in my software. If I highlight a number of connected clips and audio tracks the program will not copy and paste them into the newly created compound clip in my event library.
I therefore decided to do it the slow ay and copy each individual item. This worked fine until I came to the final audio track. No matter how many times I copy this track Final Cut refuses to do this. It always comes up with the previous item I copied. I have retried this and it will copy all the items except one. As you would expect I have done a fair amount of work on this track in the form of equyalisation, a comnpression filter and numerous keyframes on the level to come out with a mix that I am happy with. I cannot however move it from the original project.
I find this totally unacceptable and consider the software to be unfit for purpose as a result. Unfortunately the apple terms and conditions state that all purchases are final and I have no recourse upon them for the fact that it does not work.
I cannot see how an update will fix a problem with my software that is not universal to all users. I believe that I can reinstall it without being charged again but am hesitant to do this for fear of losing the large amount of work that I have put into the project.
My only hope now is to ring the premium rate number for customer support in the unlikely hope that it can be solved this way.
Not Happy
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Can anyone help me...Why Can't I open a compound clips containing missing files?

I Have been using FCPX for only a short time and I have a few unfinished projects on the go. But after tidying up an reorganising my hard drives putting FCPx Projects and Events on an external drive. I find some of my projects with compound clips show this horrid warning icon for "missing files". I am want to relink the missing clips but FCPX will not allow me to open the compound clips so I could see what are the missing ones... so, can anyone help find a way to re-link or recover those missing files.

File browser? You mean the compound clip is in the project but not in the event? What version of the software are you using?
Select the compound clip and use Clip>Reference New Parent Clip. Does that work? Try relinking the project files.

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