Qustions about Package "Groups"

Hello,
I have some general questions about package "groups" in Pacman. Mainly, I'm curious about who is responsible for deciding when a group will be made and what packages will be included. For example, I type in "pacman -S gnome" and get this:
gnome package not found, searching for group...
:: group gnome (including ignored packages):
epiphany gnome-applets gnome-backgrounds gnome-control-center
gnome-desktop gnome-icon-theme gnome-media gnome-mime-data gnome-mount
gnome-panel gnome-screensaver gnome-session gnome-settings-daemon
gnome-themes gnome2-user-docs libgail-gnome metacity nautilus
notification-daemon yelp
:: Install whole content? [Y/n]
Who decides what all those packages will be? Is there a place where users can provide input about what should be included? I realize a big part of package groups by be simply ease of dependecy managent, but it seems it would be a useful tool for users to get a system up and running quickly. For example, there are several basic things that one would need to get a usable "desktop" up and running (not counting the WM or DM). For example, xorg, alsa, etc.
I understand that Arch is all about simplicity and building a system from the ground up, which I totally love, but many of us are still going to have the same core goals in mind when setting up a "desktop" system. We're all going to need xorg, want sound, desire pretty fonts, and have some common useful apps. So, for anyone that falls into that category, a package group called something like "arch-desktop" could include some of these core components. We could even eventually have additional groups tailored towards specific DMs like "arch-desktop-xfce" or "arch-desktop-gnome".
Now, I realize I've totally spun this specifically for this propsed "arch-desktop" group but I guess my main point was to find out where one could provide official input for such things.
Thanks!
Swill

Mr. Swillis wrote:It seems to me like something that could make things "quicker" for an advanced user to get setup (less stuff to remember) and perhaps "easier" for teaching new Arch users.
Since pacman will resolve all dependencies, all you need is to do a
# pacman -Syu
# pacman -S gnome
after a core-install. Everything else you would need, could be clutter to someone else. I don't believe there is something as a 'sane default of packages'. Maybe if you're a fan of a particular windowmanager, then you might be interested in what the majority uses for a panel, a taskbar, a background-image-viewer, but also then there are so many choices and personal preferences that everyone could make his or her own group of packages.
my 0.02€

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