Re: (forte-users) C++ version compatibility question. Fortev30L2 on D

Dirk:
I ran into a similar problem. I added an other flag to my fcompile script and
it seems to be working fine, your mileage may vary. The flag was
-cflags "-oldcxx only"
Dwayne Kryger
"Haben, Dirk" <[email protected]> on 08/25/99 02:09:16 AM
To: "'Soapbox Forte Users'" <[email protected]>
cc: (bcc: Dwayne Kryger/SEH)
Subject: (forte-users) C++ version compatibility question. Forte v30L2 on
Digital Unix 4 d and C++ version ???
G'day Folxs
Just installed Forte as a Simple Server on a Digital UNIX (v4.0d) box (being
a VMSbot it was much easier than I thought). We want to use it to interface
with an existing web client. The Forte part is to provide us a scalable
access path to Oracle DBs on the VMS machine; already running Forte.
I'm having trouble finding media that contains C++ v5.4.-006 for the Unix
box. Does anyone know of/has used higher versions of C++ without too much
drama? How about v5.7 or even v6.1? We will be using extensive C++
interfacing to existing web pages!
NB: The current web system client is compiled using EGCS 2.91.66.
TIA,
/[:-)irK
Dirk Haben, Perth WA
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RE: (forte-users) Class compatibility

Pascal,
Basically the way to work with objects as parameters is to ensure that
sending and receiving parties have the same knowledge of the underlying
classes of these objects.
o Partitions in one application, generated at distribution time always are
"in sync" with one another as they use the same class definitions specified
through the supplier plan relationships of the main project
o Applications distributed independently that exchanging objects only
understand the common set of class definitions.
For example, a Forte Conductor engine object is built using the standard
Forte Framework classes. Its API specifies things like "DataValue" objects.
Sending it a TextData is fine, sending it MyOwnTextData is not - the other
application has no clue what that (sub)class is supposed to be as it did not
know at the time it was built.
This is also true in cases where applications use libraries and these are
given objects of (sub)classes it knows nothing about.
All of these generate serialisation errors of some sort since the flattened
object that is sent across the wire cannot be reconstructed at the receiving
end by lack of a blueprint (class definition) on how to create such an
object.
Theo de Klerk
Architecture & Application Integration
Professional Services
Compaq Computer Corp. - the Netherlands
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Theo,
I understand all of that. Of course we make sure that all components use the
same blueprints for all classes. However, in case we managed to get these
blueprints out of sync, we don't want the application to simply crash. We
want to trap this exception and print a message that says: "There seems to
be a compatability problem between components. Please make sure the latest
version of all application components have been installed."
Of course we can trap all exceptions (GenericException) and ignore all of
them after displaying them, but that seems like a blunt-axe-approach. I'm
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From: Klerk, Theo de [mailto:Theo.de.Klerkcompaq.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 5:15 PM
To: Rottier, Pascal; 'Forte Users'
Subject: RE: (forte-users) Class compatibility
Pascal,
Basically the way to work with objects as parameters is to ensure that
sending and receiving parties have the same knowledge of the underlying
classes of these objects.
o Partitions in one application, generated at distribution time always are
"in sync" with one another as they use the same class definitions specified
through the supplier plan relationships of the main project
o Applications distributed independently that exchanging objects only
understand the common set of class definitions.
For example, a Forte Conductor engine object is built using the standard
Forte Framework classes. Its API specifies things like "DataValue" objects.
Sending it a TextData is fine, sending it MyOwnTextData is not - the other
application has no clue what that (sub)class is supposed to be as it did not
know at the time it was built.
This is also true in cases where applications use libraries and these are
given objects of (sub)classes it knows nothing about.
All of these generate serialisation errors of some sort since the flattened
object that is sent across the wire cannot be reconstructed at the receiving
end by lack of a blueprint (class definition) on how to create such an
object.
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Architecture & Application Integration
Professional Services
Compaq Computer Corp. - the Netherlands
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I would set the completion event for the display method of the new window and
register to this event in the main window as you see in the attached .pex file.
With this solution it is possible to handle a failor in the new window in order
to bahave like the normal completion and cause the deletion of the input element
in the main window.
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Bobby,
The simplest solution I think would be to use grids and map them to some business class - which I suppose you must be already using. In the event handler of the first window (button.click event) after you call the display method of the second window you can new the business class.
Kapil
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RE: (forte-users) appdist copy from VMS to NT question...

Well, there are some graphic FTP clients for windows that allow
you to get files from FTP-servers using simple drag and drop.
Most of them even support the option of selecting a directory
and dragging it, with all its subdirectories, to your local drive
with a single mouse action.
The only problem might be with binary vs. text files. The appdist
directory has both filetypes. Getting text files as if they were
binary files may cause problems. Getting binary files as if they
were text certainly will cause problems. So, either get the
whole tree binary and hope for the best. Or get each file indi-
vidually and set the correct bin or asc setting. Or use a tool
that is smart enough to see if a file is binary or text and hope
it doesn't make any mistakes.
Pascal Rottier
STP - MSS Support & Coordination Group
Philip Morris Europe
e-mail: [email protected]
Phone: +49 (0)89-72472530
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Origin IT-services
Desktop Business Solutions Rotterdam
e-mail: [email protected]
Phone: +31 (0)10-2428100
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Don't meddle in the affairs of dragons
'cause you're crunchy and taste good with ketchup
-----Original Message-----
From: Haben, Dirk [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 6:32 AM
To: 'Soapbox Forte Users'
Subject: (forte-users) appdist copy from VMS to NT question ...
G'day Folxs
Does anyone here have a simple way to copy a whole appdist tree for myapp1
say from VMS to NT? I have created a new environment on a NT box and want
to
copy down all our application distributions.
eg:
On OpenVMS machine vmsbox1 the directory tree and files
vmsbox1::forte_root:[appdist.aenv_myapp_cl3...]*.*;
should go to NT machine ntbox1
[ntbox1] d:\temp\myapp\cl3\...
Even just to d:\temp\aenv_myapp_cl3\... will do.
ftp doesn't seem to do the trick here. Of cause I could write some routine
to put/get file by file - but before I do all that I thought I ask around
if
it's already been done.
Thanks,
Dirk
PS: Needless to say we still develop and makedist on VMS - for now (see
Bulletin 388)!
PPS: No I haven't forgotten about [appdist.aenv.myapp1]*.ace
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Well, there are some graphic FTP clients for windows that allow
you to get files from FTP-servers using simple drag and drop.
Most of them even support the option of selecting a directory
and dragging it, with all its subdirectories, to your local drive
with a single mouse action.
The only problem might be with binary vs. text files. The appdist
directory has both filetypes. Getting text files as if they were
binary files may cause problems. Getting binary files as if they
were text certainly will cause problems. So, either get the
whole tree binary and hope for the best. Or get each file indi-
vidually and set the correct bin or asc setting. Or use a tool
that is smart enough to see if a file is binary or text and hope
it doesn't make any mistakes.
Pascal Rottier
STP - MSS Support & Coordination Group
Philip Morris Europe
e-mail: [email protected]
Phone: +49 (0)89-72472530
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Origin IT-services
Desktop Business Solutions Rotterdam
e-mail: [email protected]
Phone: +31 (0)10-2428100
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Don't meddle in the affairs of dragons
'cause you're crunchy and taste good with ketchup
-----Original Message-----
From: Haben, Dirk [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 6:32 AM
To: 'Soapbox Forte Users'
Subject: (forte-users) appdist copy from VMS to NT question ...
G'day Folxs
Does anyone here have a simple way to copy a whole appdist tree for myapp1
say from VMS to NT? I have created a new environment on a NT box and want
to
copy down all our application distributions.
eg:
On OpenVMS machine vmsbox1 the directory tree and files
vmsbox1::forte_root:[appdist.aenv_myapp_cl3...]*.*;
should go to NT machine ntbox1
[ntbox1] d:\temp\myapp\cl3\...
Even just to d:\temp\aenv_myapp_cl3\... will do.
ftp doesn't seem to do the trick here. Of cause I could write some routine
to put/get file by file - but before I do all that I thought I ask around
if
it's already been done.
Thanks,
Dirk
PS: Needless to say we still develop and makedist on VMS - for now (see
Bulletin 388)!
PPS: No I haven't forgotten about [appdist.aenv.myapp1]*.ace
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Re: (forte-users) Question-Minimizing Windows onstartup

I am not sitting in front of a Win95 machine currently, but I think I
remember a setting on the Shortcut tab in the Properties notebook about the
application, that allows you to Run the app either as 'Normal Window',
'Minimized', or 'Maximized.'
/\/\ark
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From: "Will Perkinson" <perkinson.willtowerautomotive.com>
To: "Forte Usergroup" <kamranaminyahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 10:31 AM
Subject: (forte-users) Question-Minimizing Windows on startup
How do you minimize the ftexec window when starting the client on a
Windows 95 platform?
The application starts but leaves the forte ftexec window open in the
background. Is there a way to hide this window or minimize it on
startup?
Thank you,
Will Perkinson
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I am not sitting in front of a Win95 machine currently, but I think I
remember a setting on the Shortcut tab in the Properties notebook about the
application, that allows you to Run the app either as 'Normal Window',
'Minimized', or 'Maximized.'
/\/\ark
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From: "Will Perkinson" <perkinson.willtowerautomotive.com>
To: "Forte Usergroup" <kamranaminyahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 10:31 AM
Subject: (forte-users) Question-Minimizing Windows on startup
How do you minimize the ftexec window when starting the client on a
Windows 95 platform?
The application starts but leaves the forte ftexec window open in the
background. Is there a way to hide this window or minimize it on
startup?
Thank you,
Will Perkinson
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Re: (forte-users) Forte and CORBA question

Hi,
The discarding the Java variable that references a distributed Forte object
doesn't cause that the distributed object will be reclaimed. In Forte client
you can use ReleaseDistReference() of the current partition (task.part) to
free the remote object. For Java client, you can implement the following
solution:
- define a method ReleaseMyObject() in the SO you are using to get the proxy
to the dist. object. As parameter for it use something that can identify
your object (attribute).
- your SO has an array or hashtable with your distributed objects, every new
object is added to it.
- in the implementation of ReleaseMyObject() find the object to release in
the array and call ReleaseDistReference() for it,
- from the Java client, call the ReleaseMyObject() for the object that is
not more needed.
Regards,
Zenon Adamek
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Mirwald <jomirweb.de>
To: Dave Ortman <dortmanyahoo.com>; 'Forte User Forum'
<forte-userslists.xpedior.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: (forte-users) Forte and CORBA question
Hello Dave,
do you use a copy return or copy parameters in this method ?
If not, then maybe Forte is unable to garbage-collect this object because
it is forever
a proxy which only the server-partition may be able to drop it from memory
(object=NIL).
Try this and let us know what happens.
Hope this helps
Joseph Mirwald
At 11:49 07.03.01 -0800, Dave Ortman wrote:
We're attempting to use a Java client to access a
Forte server. In doing such, we've experienced a
problem which I hoped somebody could shed some light
on.
We've had a Java client calling Forte service objects
and passing Forte objects back and forth as CORBA
structs with no problem. However, we have experienced
some problem obtaining and using remote references to
distributed objects from the Java client.
The problem is memory utilization. Each time I obtain
a reference to a new object, the memory utilization on
the Forte server jumps up quite a bit (around 100k per
object on an NT box). Eventually, if I fetch enough
objects, the server will crash due to lack of memory.
It seems that Forte never reclaims the memory, even
though I'm not using (and don't have a handle to) this
remote objects.
The objects are very small. In fact, I created a test
Forte SO with one method, getObject(); which returns a
distributed object with a single attribute. I then
have a Java client access the getObject() method
repeatedly - discarding the reference to the object
after each iteration. After a short while, the box
will come down.
Any thoughts?
Thanks in advance,
-Dave Ortman
--- "Epari, Madhusudhan" <meparioxhp.com> wrote:
Hi All,
Following error occurs consistently on a router
partition for every call to
the service object but the partition doesn't die or
crash. I tried bumping
up the partition memory too. Any thoughts on why
it's happening?
Thanks in advance,
Madhu
SYSTEM ERROR: Failed to connect or lost connection
to the
environment manager
at FORTE_NS_ADDRESS = <Unknown>. Check that the
environment
manager is
installed at that location. If it is, then check
to be sure that
there are
enough system resources available to support this
partition.
Class: qqsp_SystemResourceException
Error #: [601, 201]
Detected at: qqdo_NsClient::FindObject at 1
Error Time: Wed Feb 21 09:30:56
Exception occurred (locally) on partition
"CSA_cl0_Part2-router",
(partitionId =
C61609A0-8270-11D3-88A9-F4D005D0AA77:0x10c5c:0x1,
taskId =
[C61609A0-8270-11D3-88A9-F4D005D0AA77:0x10c5c.8]) in
application
"MWRouting_cl1", pid 18937 on node forted1 in
environment
frtedev.
SYSTEM ERROR: Attempt to send from a partition
(C61609A0-8270-11D3-88A9-F4D005D0AA77:0x10c5c:0x1)
that no
longer exists.
Class: qqsp_DistAccessException
Error #: [601, 111]
Detected at: qqdo_PartitionMgr::SendMsg at
1
Error Time: Wed Feb 21 09:30:56
Distributed method called:
qqdo_NsServerProxy.FindObject
(object name
Unnamed) from partition
"CSA_cl0_Part2-router",
(partitionId =
C61609A0-8270-11D3-88A9-F4D005D0AA77:0x10c5c:0x1,
taskId =
[C61609A0-8270-11D3-88A9-F4D005D0AA77:0x10c5c.8]) in
application
"MWRouting_cl1", pid 18937 on node
forted1 in environment
frtedev
Exception occurred (locally) on partition
"CSA_cl0_Part2-router",
(partitionId =
C61609A0-8270-11D3-88A9-F4D005D0AA77:0x10c5c:0x1,
taskId =
[C61609A0-8270-11D3-88A9-F4D005D0AA77:0x10c5c.8])
in
application "MWRouting_cl1", pid 18937 on
node forted1 in
environment
frtedev.
LbRouter::FindMembers - CAUGHT EXCEPTION attaching
members from
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Why not this:
while myText.moveToString(' ') do
myText.ReplaceRange('-', myText.Offset, myText.Offset+1);
end while;
or if you prefer verbosity:
while myText.moveToString(source=' ') do
myText.ReplaceRange(source='-', startOffset=myText.Offset,
endOffset=myText.Offset+1);
end while;
-----Original Message-----
From: FatchJeBAM.com [mailto:FatchJeBAM.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 2:51 PM
To: Troy.Burnsvacationclub.com; kamranaminyahoo.com
Subject: RE: (forte-users) search and replace within a TextData
How about this?? May have to play with start/end on ReplaceRange as I
didn't really test this
Anybody got a better way??
-- replace space with underscore
For x in 1 to myTextdata.LengthToEnd() do
If myTextData.IsSpace() then
MyTextdata.ReplaceRange('_'. Startoffset=myTextdata.offset,
endoffset=myTextdata.offset+1);
End if;
MyTextdata.MoveNext;
End for;
Jerry Fatcheric
-----Original Message-----
From: Burns, Troy [mailto:Troy.Burnsvacationclub.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 9:40 AM
To: kamranaminyahoo.com
Subject: (forte-users) search and replace within a
TextData
Hello all,
I need to search within a textdata object, replacing all
occurrances of a
space
with another character. Can you give a quick code example
of how I would do
this?
Thanks in advance,
Troy
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Marriott Vacation Club Intl.
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RE: (forte-users) Is there a later version than Forte v30L2?What 's th

Hi,
We have recently upgraded to 30L4, and Forte say that this fixes a
corruption problem with the repository to do with large projects.
This patch also fixes the problem with AfterValueChange event on
FillInFields.
Upgrading was simple for us as we don't use Express.
R4 is still next year some time as far as I know.
Regards,
Jace.
Jason de Cean
Genisys Team
Lumley Technology Ltd.
Lvl. 8, 55 Sussex St
Sydney, NSW 2000 Australia
Ph: 02 9248 1321
-----Original Message-----
From: Haben, Dirk [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, 20 October, 1999 3:06
To: 'Soapbox Forte Users'
Subject: (forte-users) Is there a later version than Forte v30L2? What's
the news on R4?
G'day
Someone posted a while back about Forte v30L2 having a minor problem
with
the repository. What's the latest on v30L2 and is there a later release
worth going/waiting for - from v30G2?
What's the release plan for R4 - and what's in it?
Is SynerJ vastly different to Forte - complement, supplement? Any
management
issues to know/learn about?
When will we see integration of selected projects to baseline only
rather
than whole workspace?
Thanks,
Dirk
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I know system management for SynerJ is more complicated. I just got the
1.4.1 version of SynerJ and it has completely changed on how partitioning
work regarding the EJBs. Just more to learn to do the same thing we did in
Forte.
ka
Kamran Amin
[email protected]
(203)-459-7362 or 8-204-7362 - Trumbull
From: Peter Sham[SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 9:55 AM
To: Haben, Dirk; 'Soapbox Forte Users'
Subject: Re: (forte-users) Is there a later version than Forte v30L2?
What's the news on R4?
Hi,
I guess many people is interested in finding out how different it is
between SynerJ and TOOL.
Here is something to share.
1. Forte is posting all manuels ( SynerJ, Fusion, Conductor ) on the Web.
You just need a customer login in. Here is a good start.
2. java.sun.com now has a beta document J2EE APM which explain the
architectual of J2EE. The document how and when you will use JSP,
Servlet, EJB & Java Bean etc. You will find it along with the J2EE beta
free download.
My feeling is: on system management level, SynerJ is more or less similiar
with what we have now ( maybe they jus rewriting everything in Java ).
However, on development and design level, there is quite a large
difference. Nevertheless, it's exciting.
Regards,
Peter Sham.
"Haben, Dirk" <[email protected]> wrote:
G'day
Someone posted a while back about Forte v30L2 having a minor problem
with
the repository. What's the latest on v30L2 and is there a later
release
worth going/waiting for - from v30G2?
What's the release plan for R4 - and what's in it?
Is SynerJ vastly different to Forte - complement, supplement? Any
management
issues to know/learn about?
When will we see integration of selected projects to baseline only
rather
than whole workspace?
Thanks,
Dirk
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RE: (forte-users) Forte Version 30N0 (aka Release 3.5) andOracle 8(i) D

Hi Mark
I hear you('r guessing). I'm confident that Net8 will do the trick for
higher versions of Oracle on VMS but it's always good to have everything
covered (!) when it comes to going to production!
20th Century Fox - what would you be using Forte for?
Cheers,
Dirk
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Hi Hedzer,
We are currently testing 3.0.N.2 with our application. I have got a CD with
the full 4GL Development environment few weeks ago from Forte. Please
contact Forte Support regarding other details. Here the list of bugs fixed
in this release:
54505, 54600, 54610, 54648, 54669, 54672, 54695, 54701.
Regards,
Zenon Adamek
Information Services
Senior Programmer Analyst
Purolator Courier Ltd.
Tel: 905 712-1084 ext. 3628
Fax: 905 712-6709
E-mail: [email protected]
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 9:30 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: (forte-users) Forte 3.5 patch
Hi Zenon,
Is this patch out yet? And if so, is it a push or a pull release?
Regards,
Hedzer van Dijk
KPN Software Huis
Tel: (050 58)84149
Mobiel: 06 51276064
E-mail: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
-----Original Message-----
From: Adamek, Zenon [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 3:22 PM
To: 'Nina Gelderbloem'
Cc: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: (forte-users) Forte 3.5 patch
Hi Nina,
The bug 54610 "Phantom database connections left behind after
application
exists" is fixed in 3.0.N.2 (Service Pack 2 for Forte 3.5).

RE: [forte-users] Version L Clients working with Version NServer Partit

we were not able to get this combination to work, for some reason, our cache
was not loading when we do this.
suma
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Bhatta [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 3:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Ravi; Kent Smith; John Werry
Subject: [forte-users] Version L Clients working with Version N Server
Partitions
My "L" clients are successfully communicationg with a
3.5 server partition. Anyone else doing this? Any
potential problems I need to look out for?
Bill
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we were not able to get this combination to work, for some reason, our cache
was not loading when we do this.
suma
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Bhatta [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 3:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Ravi; Kent Smith; John Werry
Subject: [forte-users] Version L Clients working with Version N Server
Partitions
My "L" clients are successfully communicationg with a
3.5 server partition. Anyone else doing this? Any
potential problems I need to look out for?
Bill
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Re: (forte-users) Express Question

Hi,
I've done it using a dynamic DBSession manager (and dynamic dbsession
instanciation). But, you need to customize the Express Framework
(ExpressService.BusinessDBMgr) and modify the select, update, delete, execute
methods. You need also to maintain the statement cache linked to the DBsession
and manage the link between a DBsession and a task or use explicit mutex (the
aim is to have only one task assigned to a DBsession at a time : this should be
done in the DBSession Manager). If you use Dynamic DBSessions, you will also
need to add a synchronization to the DBsession Manager.
If you want to suppress the default DBSession service object, you will need to
customize the code generation. You should ask the Forte Consulting I think...
Hope this helps,
Daniel Nguyen
Freelance Forte Consultant
Url : http://perso.club-internet.fr/dnguyen/
[email protected] a écrit:
Has anyone tried replicating the partitions that contain the DBService SOs
from the Business Model (ie. DBSessions)? We are attempting to do this to
avoid single-threading access to our database and wondered if anyone had
done this successfully. Thanks for your help.
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Hi,
I've done it using a dynamic DBSession manager (and dynamic dbsession
instanciation). But, you need to customize the Express Framework
(ExpressService.BusinessDBMgr) and modify the select, update, delete, execute
methods. You need also to maintain the statement cache linked to the DBsession
and manage the link between a DBsession and a task or use explicit mutex (the
aim is to have only one task assigned to a DBsession at a time : this should be
done in the DBSession Manager). If you use Dynamic DBSessions, you will also
need to add a synchronization to the DBsession Manager.
If you want to suppress the default DBSession service object, you will need to
customize the code generation. You should ask the Forte Consulting I think...
Hope this helps,
Daniel Nguyen
Freelance Forte Consultant
Url : http://perso.club-internet.fr/dnguyen/
[email protected] a écrit:
Has anyone tried replicating the partitions that contain the DBService SOs
from the Business Model (ie. DBSessions)? We are attempting to do this to
avoid single-threading access to our database and wondered if anyone had
done this successfully. Thanks for your help.
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Re: (forte-users) Unstable server ENV after upgrade to Forte30M2.

I see/suggest a few things:
1) In your #1, you mention ".... development and test environments which use the
same Forte 3M installs through links ...". This concerns me. On our UNIX box
each environment has it's own directory containing it's own install. If your
environments are some how sharing a node manager, log directory or processes (to
name a few things) that is a recipe for disaster. They may be competing for
resources and usually the first one started will win.
2) I haven't done a lot with compatibility levels, but if an application built
in dev is to run in test it may be important that node managers and services
(autocompile, codegen etc.) be at the same level (????).
3) Check the definition files, to make sure the two environments operate
independently. If they are both trying to write to the same log file the one
started up first will work while the second will not as the file will be "busy".
4) We usually use rpcreate (newer version) to create brand new repositories.
Than we export/import the source code that we need. Also it is important to
force compile ALL plans in a workspace at least once after doing the import.
This will ensure that all of the code is "speaking the same language". The other
compile, only compiles those pieces of code that changed from the last compile.
Hope this helps.
Kelsey PetrychynSaskTel Technical Analyst
ITM - Technology Solutions - Distributed Computing
Tel (306) 777 - 4906, Fax (306) 359 - 0857
Internet:kelsey.petrychynSasktel.sk.ca
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"Braja Chattaraj" <forte_brajachotmail.com> on 09/13/2000 03:43:57 PM
Please respond to chattaraj_braja_NONLILLYlilly.com
To: forte-userslists.xpedior.com
cc: (bcc: Kelsey Petrychyn/SaskTel/CA)
Subject: (forte-users) Unstable server ENV after upgrade to Forte 30M2.
We are running Forte 3M2 clients and server in our test environment with
clients on NT and server on Solaris 2.6. Eversince the upgrade from 3L to 3M
we have been having an unstable environment that does not remain alive for >
10 mins. These are the details of the Forte installs and server setups :
1. The server hosts the development and test environments which use the same
Forte 3M installs through links (same ftcmd, ftexec, nodemgr, etc.). The
environments are at compatibility levels 0 and 1 respectively.
2. The two environments have the same definition files (defining the ENV
variables), though seperate copies and the two environments are hosted on
different ports on the same server.
3. While building the new 3M environmnets in DEV and TST, we exported the
old 3L repositories and imported them into the new 3M repositories and
deployed the applications.
While the DEV environment is stable the TST environment is not. This has
been observed while moving plans between the environments (export and
import) using fscript commands, deploying the apps after the move using
fscript, and testing the apps. Sometimes it has come down right after a
startup. There is no programatic reference to the environment agent in the
code. So, a programatic shutdown is ruled out.
Does anybody have a clue or a similar experience ?
Thanks.
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We found a solution to our issue.Their desktops were in a lockdown environment and the essbase.id file located in the windows directory was locked as well. This file is responsible for assigning ports etc and it couldn't be updated for the 6.5.4p2 upgrade. Once the file was deleted and the user reconnected to Essbase, the essbase.id was reset and they could connect.

RE: (forte-users) Optimal number of records to fetch fromForte C ursor

The reason why a single fetch of 20.000 records performs less then
2 fetches of 10.000 might be related to memory behaviour. Do you
keep the first 10.000 records in memory when you fetch the next
10.000? If not, then a single fetch of 20.000 records requires more
memory then 2 fetches of 10.000. You might have some extra over-
head of Forte requesting additional memory from the OS, garbage
collections just before every request for memory and maybe even
the OS swapping some memory pages to disk.
This behaviour can be controlled by modifying the Minimum memory
and Maximum memory of the partition, as well as the memory chunk
size Forte uses to increment its memory.
Upon partition startup, Forte requests the Minimum memory from the
OS. Whithin this area, the actual memory being used grows, until
it hits the ceiling of this space. This is when the garbage collector
kicks in and removes all unreferenced objects. If this does not suffice
to store the additional data, Forte requests 1 additional chunk of a
predefined size. Now, the same behaviour is repeated in this, slightly
larger piece of memory. Actual memory keeps growing until it hits
the ceiling, upon which the garbage collector removes all unrefer-
enced objects. If the garbage collector reduces the amount of
memory being used to below the original Miminum memory, Forte
will NOT return the additional chunk of memory to the OS. If the
garbage collector fails to free enough memory to store the new data,
Forte will request an additional chunk of memory. This process is
repeated untill the Maximum memory is reached. If the garbage
collector fails to free enough memory at this point, the process
terminates gracelessly (which is what happens sooner or later when
you have a memory leak; something most Forte developpers have
seen once or twice).
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 6:53 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: (forte-users) Optimal number of records to fetch from Forte
Cursor
Hello everybody:
I 'd like to ask a very important question.
I opened Forte cursor with approx 1.2 million records, and now I am trying
to figure out the number of records per fetch to obtain
the acceptable performance.
To my surprise, fetching 100 records at once gave me approx 15 percent
performance gain only in comparsion
with fetching records each by each.
I haven't found significant difference in performance fetching 100, 500
or
10.000 records at once.In the same time, fetching 20.000
records at once make a performance approx 20% worse( this fact I cannot
explain).
Does anybody have any experience in how to improve performance fetching
from
Forte cursor with big number of rows ?
Thank you in advance
Genady Yoffe
Software Engineer
Descartes Systems Group Inc
Waterloo On
Canada
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Hi Kieran,
According to your description, you are going to figure out what is the optimal number of records per partition, right? As per my understanding, this number was change by your hardware. The better hardware you have, the more number of records per partition.
The earlier version of the performance guide for SQL Server 2005 Analysis Services Performance Guide stated this:
"In general, the number of records per partition should not exceed 20 million. In addition, the size of a partition should not exceed 250 MB."
Besides, the number of records is not the primary concern here. Rather, the main criterion is manageability and processing performance. Partitions can be processed in parallel, so the more there are the more can be processed at once. However, the more partitions
you have the more things you have to manage. Here is some links which describe the partition optimization
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/sqlcat/archive/2009/03/13/analysis-services-partition-size.aspx
http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1554201&seqNum=2
Regards,
Charlie Liao
TechNet Community Support

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