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Hi,
Please <b>read the rules of engagement</b> before you post.
<b>Step 1: Finding An Answer</b>
Rule number one: Try to find the answer first. There are tons of resources out there, show that you have tried to find the answer. A question that shows that the person is willing to try and help themselves is more likely to be answered than one which simply demands information. Tell us what you have done to try and solve the problem yourself - often we can learn from that too!
Search the forums, the articles, the blog posts and the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) in the Wiki for your topic.
<b>- Do not ask to send you an email.</b>
The question you ask and the solution to it is often also interesting for other users of the community. If you ask somebody to send you the answer per email, you deprive others of also learning to know the answer. Therefore any requests for sending material or answers to an email address will be modified by the forum moderators.
Thank you.

J.K. ROFLing,
What do you suggest littleshoulders?
I have made suggestions, whereas others have not but have also asked for changes here in regards to posting topic probems.
A suggestion I have made was to force the user whichever way they enter discussions to fill in a form that directs the user to the most appropriate forum. This doesn't need to be a long form but I'm sure you have seen this type of form on other sites that narrow a search down.
I'm certainly not an expert (I assume Apple has enough on staff to handle the logistics) and would only venture a guess as to what might be asked on the form to narrow the search.
Most importantly, I can't believe that the form would be any more labor intensive on the user than navigating through the Discussion pages to get to an appropriate forum. And quite frankly, even if it were it would certainly direct the user to an appropriate forum saving huge amounts of wasted time trying to get their support.
"Computer: iMac G3
OS version: OS X v10.3.9
What is you computer problem or support topic: Terminal problem"
I'm sure there would have to be other menu options (pop-ups and user filled info) for this type of search process but that is an abbreviated example for this excercise.
These directing forms are used all over the internet to direct the user to the appropriate product, support or otherwise.
I contend that the way that Discussions is presented currently that it needs this type of user interface to work properly.
In closure, I have to say that I don't believe in status quo and think that any change for the better is welcome and I bet all those novice users who struggle with posting topics correctly would agree. They obviously need more help than what is currently offered with posting.
regards,
littleshoulders

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