Recommendations for recovery catalog database backup

Hi
We are using IBM Tivoli Storage Manager for our 9i db on AIX 5.2.
I would like us to consider using rman but I am not sure of the best way we would go about backing up the database we would use for our recovery catalog.
This database that hold all the metadata would need to be backed up after every rman backup. The rman backup would go to tape, so I am assuming that the recovery catalog would be backed up on tape also.
What are the common procedures for this in other shops ?

Dan A wrote:
Aman. That doc does help, and indeed it does explain
Back up the recovery catalog with the same frequency that you back up the target database.
We would be doing nightly backups, so we would have to back up the catalog with the same frequency.
The doc explains that we would use rman for these backups also, but that it would be in NOCATALOG mode so that the repository is in the control file.
And then what? Just copy this to tape? Seems that with rman there is then a need to do two backups - one of the target db and one of the recovery catalog.
Thanks.I shall suggest to take an export of the underlying schema which is holding the info in the recovery catalog. That's all which is basically required to be safe. In case , everything gets burnt regarding the catalog db,you can immediately create another db, import the user back there and things are in place. This should be a quick and easy way out of the backup of recovery catalog.
Yes if you are going to take backups every night than backup of recovery catalog schema/db nightly will be a good option. Docs are meant to promote people for RMAN so indeed they would talk about it. But its not at all a compulstion to use RMAN for recovery catalog schema's backup. If its a big catalog maintaining lots of database's info than using RMAN with all its features is a good option. If a single db is a part of it than it may not be that much big and export of teh schema alone may serve the purpose too.
HTH
Aman....

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I understand the question and the confusion.
Please note, however, that this forum is for discussing problems and errors with the documentation in general. Your question is related to a specific product and is, as far as I can tell, not a note about a documentation error or a correction.
The appropriate place to discuss this is the Database (General) forum or - perhaps surprisingly - the RMAN forum. These can both be found by
1) Clicking on the 'Forum Home' link at the top of this page;
2) Scrolling down to the category 'Database' (a category is identified by a special row format that does not list the number of topics)
3) Expanding the category by clicking on the 'More ...' link.
4) Scrolling down to the "Database - General" or "Recovery Manager" forum and clicking on it's link.
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