Reconcillation of by product during sub contracting

Dear Experts ,
I have a question regarding by product received from Sub Contractor .
I send material A & B , and receive material C along with by product X .
I do the normal sub con process & receive material from sub contractor , afetr recieving the Material B from sub cont. I do reconcillation of the sub con challan , in this transaction only child material A & B is visible the by prioduct X is not listed in it.
My question is ,should the by product appear in the challan during reconcillation or it shouldnt.
Kindly clarify my doubt .
Thanks

By product is end result of process along with material B.
You are not sending by product while issuing material to vendor using 57F4 Challan.
So it wont' appear in challan reconcillation.

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