Redo logs full - how to remove

Hello!
From time to time our database redo logs get full (oracle is running), we go to rman and delete them and everything is fine again.
This time it is the first time we experience this problem when oracle is NOT running.
When we want to start in sqlplus with "startup", oracle DOES NOT start up - we get the error message:
ORA-03113: end-of-file on communication channel
The alert log shows the message:
ORA-19815: WARNING: db_recovery_file_dest_size of 4070572032 bytes is 100.00% used, and has 0 remaining bytes available.
ORA-19809: limit exceeded for recovery files
This time we cannot use RMAN. The problem is, that rman (rman - connect TARGET sys/orac@orcl) only functions with a running database, otherwise we get the error message:
ORA-12514: TNS:listener does not currently know of service requested in connect descriptor
So we deleted the redo logs manually and rebooted, but oracle seems to does not "SEE" this manual deletion. The error message
stays the same.
We wanted to convert our spfile to a pfile, change the redo logs max value to a higher value, and convert this back to a spfile, but this
is also only functionning when the database is running.
Does anybody has a solution for this problem?
Thanks for your help in advance
Wolfgang

Hi,
Its more of a backup policy issue than a technical problem, I would like to go like this....
1. Check if I really need archive logs (in case of Test/Dev environment only export backup should be enough)
2. if you can afford to loose archives better change DB in no arch mode (But you will not be able to take online backup of DB through RMAN)
2. If you need Archives for sure, try getting more space allocated to your archive dest Drive/FS.
Normally we have a practice of keeping the size of arch dest Drive 2 times larger than DB generates in the duration of backup cycle...i.e. if you take arch backup once every day, I would keep archive dest FS size to be able to keep 2 days of archives.
Regards
Rahul

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