Refine my fonts

Hi, I have some issues with the fonts on my system. I use an LCD monitor, and here is my ~/.fonts.conf:
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM "fonts.dtd">
<fontconfig>
<!-- If the font is bold, turn off autohinting --> <match target="font" >
<test compare="more" name="weight" >
<const>medium</const>
</test>
<edit mode="assign" name="autohint" >
<bool>false</bool>
</edit>
</match>
<match target="font" >
<edit mode="assign" name="rgba" >
<const>none</const>
</edit>
</match>
<match target="font" >
<edit mode="assign" name="hinting" >
<bool>true</bool>
</edit>
</match>
<match target="font" >
<edit mode="assign" name="hintstyle" >
<const>hintmedium</const>
</edit>
</match>
<match target="font" >
<edit mode="assign" name="antialias" >
<bool>true</bool>
</edit>
</match>
<match target="font" >
<edit mode="assign" name="rgba" >
<const>rgb</const>
</edit>
</match>
<match target="font" >
<edit mode="assign" name="hinting" >
<bool>true</bool>
</edit>
</match>
<match target="font" >
<edit mode="assign" name="hintstyle" >
<const>hintfull</const>
</edit>
</match>
<match target="font" >
<edit mode="assign" name="antialias" >
<bool>true</bool>
</edit>
</match>
</fontconfig>
xorg is configured to use the physical DPI of my monitor (22" WS @ 1680x1050):
fackamato ~ $ xdpyinfo |grep res
resolution: 90x88 dots per inch
KeyPressMask ButtonPressMask EnterWindowMask
fackamato ~ $
I also use the freetype2-lcd package. I use KDE, and AA is on, so is hinting which is set to Full (RGB).
Here's a screenshot of how it looks (look at the menubar of Firefox, the letters have edges of colour around them) also the "Log in" on the top left doesn't look right. Any ideas on what I can do to improve my fonts?

azleifel wrote:
Just to add a contrasting opinion, I force my display to use 96dpi resolution:
screen #0:
print screen: no
dimensions: 1280x1024 pixels (339x271 millimeters)
resolution: 96x96 dots per inch
(actual screen size is something like 370x301mm).  If I leave the resolution at the native dpi then I find that fonts, especially bold fonts, get a little fuzzy.
My suggestion is to try 96dpi, 100dpi and native and then pick the one that gives the best results.
Hehe. I'm currently at 90x88 dpi and I think I've hit the perfect spot actually , both considering font size and appearence.

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    http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/4097/linuxl.png
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    <edit mode="assign" name="antialias">
    <bool>false</bool>
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    <test compare="less_eq" name="pixelsize">
    <double>7</double>
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    <bool>false</bool>
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    <edit mode="assign" name="hintstyle">
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    <match target="font">
    <test compare="eq" name="family">
    <string>Trebuchet MS</string>
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    <edit mode="assign" name="hintstyle">
    <const>hintfull</const>
    </edit>
    <test compare="less" name="weight">
    <const>medium</const>
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    <test compare="less_eq" name="pixelsize">
    <double>7</double>
    </test>
    <edit mode="assign" name="antialias">
    <bool>false</bool>
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    </match>
    <match target="font">
    <test compare="eq" name="family">
    <string>Verdana</string>
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    <edit mode="assign" name="hintstyle">
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    </edit>
    <test compare="less" name="weight">
    <const>medium</const>
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    <test compare="less_eq" name="pixelsize">
    <double>7</double>
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    <edit mode="assign" name="antialias">
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    <match target="font">
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    <edit mode="assign" name="hintstyle">
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    </fontconfig>
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    Section "Files"
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    Identifier "Keyboard0"
    Driver "kbd"
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    ModelName "Unknown"
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    VertRefresh 43.0 - 72.0
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    Section "Device"
    Identifier "Device0"
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    VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation"
    Option "NoDDC" "true"
    Option "UseEdidDpi" "false"
    Option "DPI" "96 x 96"
    EndSection
    Section "Screen"
    Identifier "Screen0"
    Device "Device0"
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    DefaultDepth 24
    SubSection "Display"
    Depth 24
    EndSubSection
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    EndSection
    I even used cairo,libxft,... - hacks "-ubuntu", but my issue was still there Now I have clean that packages, without "-ubuntu".
    I've copied TTF fonts from W7 into my Arch.
    I have up to date system under Gnome 2.28.
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    Now, why on Earth would I do that? Think I'm creating this file at random?? I'm continually testing and refining the rules. The purpose of the rules is to compensate for fontconconfig's inability to do such tweaking automatically. The end result is that fonts look better - I'm surprised that I need to point this out, it should be blatantly obvious.
    hintslight should be used until the mid or up to the upper 100dpi range
    That's meaningless by itself, you must include pixelsize in the equation. The majority of Microsoft's fonts, as well as various other fonts, actually look better when small using hintfull.
    is a hack... Simplify, simplify, simplify.
    Well, yeah, of course, it would be great if fontconfig did all the tweaking for us - but it doesn't. Fonts vary greatly, so fontconfig needs to be told the best ways to render various fonts, at various sizes/weights. You don't seem to understand this point, judging by this and your other posts regarding fonts - same as skottish, IIRC. Don't you guys have eyes?
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