Reflection applied to character/paragraph style?

Can anyone point me in the right direction to create a character or paragraph style for using the web 2.0 reflection on text? example below...
Thanks!

Apologies not necessary. That previewColor property has been a mystery for quite some time, and when I finally found out what it is supposed to do, it seemed to be so bug-ridden that I quickly steered away from it and I gave up attempting to make any sense of it. But your script just avoids those bugs popping up!
As I said in the IDS post: it's rather sad the Adobe team gave up on further developing this great hidden feature into a full one; and it's downright worrying that they left that legacy code in CS5 and later, so it could get infested with all those nasty little bugs. It leads me to think: how many more 'dead' code is there, in CS5, 5.5 and now in CS6? Could that be the reason later versions are so much slower and more buggy than my trusty CS4?
(Point in fact.
In CS4 and earlier on the Mac, all plugin resources are gathered into neat, small packages inside a single large indexed file. That makes sense, because every single plugin resource is just a couple of bytes long -- say, a single icon, or a single string "Menu Item Name". With CS5, the programmers suddenly took a Lazy Turn and wrote out every single resource as a single small file. That means that
1. (Annoying!) Since hard disk space is allocated by the kilobyte (typically 4Kb chunks), 10 tiny resources totalling 1 Kb now will suddenly occupy 40 Kb of disk space. Sure, hard disk space is cheap. Apparently, it's even cheaper than doing some programming -- or even just using the load code from the last version!
2. (Frustrating!) Locating, opening, loading, and then closing a single file takes time and resources, but after a file got loaded into memory, you can do with it whatever you want. Locating, opening, loading and then closing each of the dozens of small files per plugin takes lots of time. Is that the reason CS5.5 starts up so incredibly slow? Jongware sez: yeah for sure it won't help.
/Point in fact).

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