Reg:Cost Object Controlling

Hi All,
While am doing the T.Code: MFBF - REM Backflush (For Repetative Manufactring) the following Issue is coming
E:M7:226 131 _ _ _ F
Message no. M7226

Hi Suryanarayana,
Please Do me the favour, no MM guy is available right know
see the following movement types i assigned on REM Profile
Movement Types
Goods issue     261                        Goods issue/reversal 262
Goods receipt    131                      Goods receipt/reversal 132
Scrap                 551                      Scrap/reversal              552
By-product          531                      By-product/reversal        532
Additional movement types relevant fot make-to-order scenrio
GR Individual SOrd        571                  GR Indiv. Order Reversal           572
GI Ind. Stock/SOrd       572                 GI SO Stock/Sorder/Canc.         571
GI PlntStock/SOrd        291                 GI Pl. Stock/SOrder Rev.            292

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Product cost planning & cost object controlling

Hi All
We are using KMAT material type for configurable materials.
Product cost planning:
My question is , Can we save cost estimate for the Kmat materials?
( I am assuming I dont have to run CK40N for these materails , As I am not going to have accounting tab for Kmat materails. and I do not know which materails and operations to use in super Bom and Super routing)
Please let me know If the above statement is true.
Cost object controlling:
Can i use cost obect controlling by production order or PCC?
*I am assuming I will be ale to use only cost object controlling by sales order....But I have nt worked on this previously...If I have to use cost object controlling by sales order , can you guys give me a link or steps that helps me in configuring Cost object controlling by sales order*

Hi,
See comments in bold
Product cost planning:
My question is , Can we save cost estimate for the Kmat materials?
( I am assuming I dont have to run CK40N for these materails , As I am not going to have accounting tab for Kmat materails. and I do not know which materails and operations to use in super Bom and Super routing)
Please let me know If the above statement is true.
You have goto VA02-->Costing
Sales order costing is big topic,please check this link
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_bw33/helpdata/en/90/ba6da4446711d189420000e829fbbd/content.htm
Cost object controlling:
Can i use cost obect controlling by production order or PCC?
*I am assuming I will be ale to use only cost object controlling by sales order....But I have nt worked on this previously...If I have to use cost object controlling by sales order , can you guys give me a link or steps that helps me in configuring Cost object controlling by sales order*
Sales order costing is big topic,please check this link
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_01/helpdata/en/90/ba6f9f446711d189420000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
Thanks,
Rau

0CO_PC_01 Cost Object Controlling: Plan/Actual Data

Hi Experts
I have a question regarding Cost Object Controlling: Plan/Actual Data (0CO_PC_01). I know nothing about the R/3 processes and tcodes behind this datasource.
For a given material and a given plant do I only get records with VTYPE(Value type for Reporting) 10, but I do not understand why - I need VTYPE = 70.
I therefore hope:
1. That somebody could provides input on why I only get VTYPE = 10 and how I get 70 instead.
2. That somebody can tell me the tcodes behind this datasource on the R/3 side.
Thanks and kind regards,
Torben

Hi Mr. V.
Thanks a lot for the input.
The problem is that we have got VTYPE 30 (target) for some materials, but not for specific material A and we really do not understand why. Do you know how I can verify if the variance is present for the given material A in R/3?
Thanks and kind regards,
Torben
Edited by: Torben Pedersen on Apr 3, 2009 12:00 AM
Sorry, it is VTYPE 30 i need, not 70 as stated by mistake at first.

Difference between COPC planning and cost object controlling

I want to know why do we have to calculate the cost of a manufactured product by both COPC planning and Cost object controlling by order?
Will the cost of a manufactured product be different in COPC planning method and cost object controlling method?
if we use only cost object controlling to calculaute the cost of a manufactured product without using COPC planning wht will be the implications?

Raja,
Yes the cost can be different. The cost calculating thorught Product Cost Planning may be static, you calculate it by period it is more for planning prupose ans to set standard. The cost calculated through Cost Object Controlling is resulting from your actual transactions, and the are few variables that could increase or decrease the cost of product. For example the overhead cost (Increase of salaries) can directly affect your activity rate at the work center and impact cost of your product when the production order is complete. You need both costs (Cost Planning and Cost Object releated) so at the end of the period you can calculate variance betweeen your plan cost and your actual costs.
Hope this clarifies your doubts.
GG

Cost object Controlling - Transaction KKBC_HOE

Hello CO experts
Can anyone let me know or provide me the documentation for CO summarization report.
I defined hierarchy in the customization (SPRO) but it seems that it is not complete in all respects.
I always get "Hierarchy does not exist".
Thanks and Regards
Subbu

Hello Jayaraman,
It seems that you are just missing the data collection step ( summarisation step), which is a prerequisite, before executing the summarised analysis report KKBC_HOE.
Till the time , data is not collected in the defined hierarchy, we keep on getting the message as " Summarized object does not exist :"
The steps are
1. Define / Create summarisation hierarchy - KKR0 - I believe, you have already done this step.
2. Data Collection for the above summarisation - KKRC - for required hierarchy / subhierarchy / period - ( Menu path - Controlling - Product Cost Controlling - Cost Object Controlling - Product Cost by Period - Information System - Tools - Data Collection - KKRC - For Summarization Hierarchy )
Request to test this for a specific material / period / order type initially , to avoid long run times, and once satisfied / successful, collect the full data by executing the job in background.
3. Execute report KKBC_HOE
Hope this helps.
Please do not forget to award full points, if satisfied and successful.
Cheers
Shreekar Vaidya

PDF Document for cost object controlling

Hi Sap Gurus ,
please any body sent cost object controling pdf document to me.please help me .
Thanks & Regards
Sri

HI
Below links has some details relating to PC-COC
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/COPCIS/COPCIS.pdf
VVR

Cost object controlling

can any one tell me what is valuated sales order, and non valuated sales order?
and when we use these two scenarios?
thank you,
shankar chitupolu

Valuated sales order, and Un-Valuated sales order, these two will occur in Sales order related production scenarios, and when we use "Product cost by Sales order" in cost object controlling.
We use Product cost by Sales order:
If we want to know profit margin for particular sales order,
to track special sales costs,
to know funds committed to the sales order,
to know performance of sales order in costing point of view and
to get affects of delay in delivery.
This allows us to use Results Analysis.
In Valuated sales order:
Quantity and Value flow is combined,
Assembly costs can be seen at multilevel make to order production,
Inventory determination is simple,
It is similar to MTS Production,
enables more CO scenarios and logical decoupling of Co-PC and PP.
In Un-Valuated Sales order:
Quantity flow is separate from Value flow,
Costs are not posted immediately to sales order,
No variance for assigned production orders,
not good for Multilevel production process.
I hope U Got it...

Activity confirmation at target quantity in Cost object Controlling

How can I confirm activity usage by back flushing target quantities based on actual quantity delivered into stock from a process order?
Could you please advise how we can do the above?
Currently we are confirming the activity based on the planned hrs. But how could it be possible in SAP to Confirm the activity usage based on the delivered stock from a process order
The above is only relevant to Activity but not component materials.
Thank you

Hi Ravikanth,
To post activity quantities by back flush for the actual quantities confirmed, please take a look at the following:
1. In routing (Master Receipe), you can make settings that at each of the operations, you can back flush the activities. It is controlled at Routing. you can check in the routing there will be a check box for backflushing. If need more details in this regard, you may also check with your PP guy.
2. At the time of confirmation, system will propose the activity quantities based on the back flush, but here if you don't want to change anything, you can simply post it. Else if you want to change the quantities, system will allow you the change.
The process and system behaviour would be same for both By Production Order or By Process Order. Only the difference is you will have Master receipe in Process Order instead of Production Order and there is some added features like PI sheet for better quality management.
Please let me know if you need futher details in this regard
Surya

Distribution of Price difference value to Other Cost Objects in Hierarchy

Hi,
I have a unique scenario for one of my client.
Here we are using Cost Object Hierarchy for Cost Object Controlling. We have Two COH for Billets and Wire Rods.
The Input for Billets production are Raw Materials and Input for Wire Rod Production are the Billets.
Each Billet grade is consumed for the Specific Wire Rod Grade.
At the end of the Month we do the settlement and we get the Price difference value of the Billets. We can also know the Per unit Price difference value.
Now we want to send this Price difference per unit value of the Billets to the Wire Rod Production orders according to the quanity of Billets consumed.
We are not using ML.
I am not getting any idea how to Proceed for thsi scenario.
Any suggestion please.
Regards
Kami

Hi
W/o ML, you cant achieve this...
if your Prod process is farily stable and qty variances are not much i.e. the only major reason for variances are the prices - Then you can adopt this workaround
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br, Ajay M

Which Cost Objects to hit in Controlling

Dear All,
Please guide which cost centres/ cost Objects should be chosen in case of the following entries in FI
a) Revaluation of Inventroy based on Standard Costs ( Entry passed by system at beginning of the month)
Inventory Ac Dr
Finished Goods Valuation Adjustement Ac Cr
Semi Finished Goods Valuation Adjustment Ac Cr
Presently entry passed due to above price change we are accounting under Procurement cost centre and treating the same as period costs. Is this treatment proper?
b) Scrap generated during production is not possible to allocate the same to any specific production Order , hence the scrap loss entry as mentioned below is accounted under production cost centre
Scrap Loss Ac Dr
Inventory Semi Finished Ac Cr
inventory Raw Material Ac Cr
Whether scrap loss should be accounted under production cost centre or there any better way of accounting scrap loss in controlling ?
Please provide answers so that necessary configuration chages can be made.
Regards
Milind Nair

Hi
Material reveluation (ie cost element) will be posted with cost center as cost object and Profit center will be geting profit center assignment with plant combination
Scrap should be treated as by product wich in return give credit to production order or product cost collector
Dinabandhu

Error in Distribution of Actual cost in Cost Object Hierarchy

Hi,
I am getting an error while doing the Distribution of Actual cost from Cost Object Node to the assigned Order.
Cost element/origin 630000 could not be distributed
Message no. KZ468
Diagnosis
The cost element/ origin 630000 could not be distributed because there are no target costs for this cost element/origin or for cost element group CO-PC-TOT.
Procedure
Check the calculated target costs and cost element group CO-PC-TOT assigned to the target cost version.
Procedure for System Administration
Proceed
Although the Cost element is Present in cost element group CO-PC-TOT.
One more information, the order that is assigned in Cost Object Hierarchy is of CO-Product orders.
I have searched in the forum but I havent got any solution.
Kindly help.
regards
Kami

Hi,
Concerning error message KZ 468, it has the following origin: In the customizing of the cost object category (transaction okz5), check if the 'single object selection' is set to 'Control through variance key'. If you consider the F1-Help for this option you will find the following explanation:
if the indicator Control through variance key is turned on, the production order, process order, or product cost collector can only be assigned to the cost object hierarchy if:
-> The material is assigned to the lowest node of the hierarchy
-> No variance key is specified in the order
The important point is, that orders that have a variance key are excluded from the cost distribution.
In transaction KKF8 you will find that all these orders do indeed have a variance key. Hence, all of these orders are included, there are no target costs from the orders and the costs cannot be distributed. Thus the error message kz 468.
Please consider that and check the customizing again.
Not having target costs in the distribution indicates either a wrong set up of the hierarchy or, more likely, no valid cost estimate for a certain material of a production order or product cost collector could be found.
Did you check whether for this cost element/origin target costs exist, and also for the cost element group? If not the message KZ468 is correct and probably the cost element group has to be maintained properly.
The distribution of actual costs calculates target costs on-the-fly and the variance calculation does not have to be carried out before. Quite the opposite than the variance calculation requires the distribution as a preceding step. Furthermore it is not sufficient that one cost element is in a cost element group but the interval where the cost element has been assigned to has to have some target costs. Otherwise this won't work and message KZ468 is issued.
regards
Waman

Cost object for Revenue Item?

Dear friends
When I am posting sales entry in F-02, system is asking Cost Object.
I have given Cost Center as a Cost Object. In the control tab I have removed lock for Actual Revenues also.
Even after this also system is asking the Cost Object. And I am getting the below error:
Account 301001 requires an assignment to a CO object
"Message no. KI248
Diagnosis
All given account assignment objects (order, project) are defined as statistical.
System Response
Statistical orders or projects are ignored when FI and CO are reconciled. You must enter a cost center, order, project, or cost object to which the costs are posted for CO postings.
Procedure
Enter a cost center, an order, a project, or a cost object that is not statistical. The posting row affected is 002 and the account is 301001."
Regards
Kiran A

Revenues posted to cost center always statistical postings only. System is looking for real cost object. Go to profit segment field and derive manually to post to profit segment. Otherwise you need a Internal Order or Sales order

MTO Sales order is NOT a COST OBJECT

Hi All,
I'm working on MTO process and i have some question.i would like to clarify MTO process.
If we are using Valuated MTO process and Sales order is NOT a COST OBJECT
1.Are we going to run material cost estimate for MTO materials?
2.How can i configure or make Sales order is NOT a Cost Object?
3.If Saleso order is not a cost object,how production order process will work from controlling point of you?are we going calculate WIP on production order and WIP is settled to sales order or FI/PCA?
4.Once production order is complete,Goods Receipt will post to Inventory or Sales order stock?
5.Once production order is complete,we are going to calculate variance on production orders?
Any help is appreciated...
Thanks,
Anusha

Hi,
When the MTO is created from sales end it will create the Planned order then it will convert to Production or Process order.
Once the production do GR or confirm Produced QTY the stock will go to Sales stock not to inventory stock.From there the sales can do PGI to customer.once PGI has done the account entry for the customer account will take place automatically.
Once the production completed the Production order need to calculate for the variance & the Settlement need to be done for the production order against the Material which you produced & sale to customer.The difference & variane amount will post to Price difference & moved to Product cost of the material automatically & COPA entry will be done automatically.
The MTO Material need to run for the Cost estimate also.
The WIP can be calculated & difference can be posted against the production order & the material which you produce.
The Process is same as the Make TO Stock scenario.Only the difference is the Production will get generate automatically when the MTO order get created & the stock will post to sales stock automatically.Rest the CO part is same as MTS scenario.
Regards,
Raj

Use of PS-Module: Cost object discussion

Hello,
i have a question regarding the use of PS-Module.
I would like to know if in your company you experienced any problem (in controlling or somewhere else) when posting to a variety of different cost objects. For example: wbs-element, sales order, internal order and network.
SAP is offering a lot of possibilities how to customize a system. That means i could run similar processes with different assignment to cost objects. I would like to know how you think about that topic and what experience you made.

Hi,
As you rightly said the SAP is providing different different cost objects to be posted.
based on the company requirement we have to choose the process.

The performance of Distribution of Cost Object Hierarchy Costs.

Dear SAP Gurus.
I am checking the function and the performance about Cost Object Hierarchies distribution with Control Through Variance Key.
The number of production orders assigned to COH is about 100,000 per month.
All orders will be closed at current month and new 100,000 production order will be assigned to COH at next month.
My concern is about performance of Distribution of Cost Object Hierarchy Costs
because a huge number of orders will be accumulatedly assigned to the Cost Object Hierarchies.
I think that the COH will be distributed with not bad performance.
(Actually I want that to be OK.)
What's your opinion about that?
Sincerely.
Mahnkwi.

Hi Mahnkwi,
Sender-/receiver-relations should definitely be below 1:1000 or even below 1:500. This depends on other factors like general size of the hierarchy and data to be processed as well. This hierarchy needs to be restructured. In case you do this the
distribution needs to be reversed first.
Below are some other hints on performance in KKPX
- Parallel processing should be used.(note [386508|https://css.wdf.sap.corp/sap(bD1lbiZjPTAwMQ==)/bc/bsp/spn/sapnotes/index2.htm?numm=0000386508])
- Switch off detail lists since the consume lots of memory.
- Old orders should be archived.
Note [77718|https://css.wdf.sap.corp/sap(bD1lbiZjPTAwMQ==)/bc/bsp/spn/sapnotes/index2.htm?numm=0000077718] also explains tips to avoid the memory error for transaction KKPX or KKPY. As note explains, you should consider
whether a distribution of the cost elements according to their origin is required; if not, the corresponding indicator should not be set in the costing view of the materials.
If many error message is issued in the error log, this may have bad effect on the memory of your server. In this case, you should make these error message "not to be displayed" by message control in IMG.
Regards,
Declan

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