Regarding EDI and EAI
Hello Masters,
What makes exact differecnce between the EDI and EAI. Please if possible take simple example and explain in simple manner.
Thank You
Hi Ravi Kumar,
EAI:
Enterprise Application Integration (EAI) is defined as the uses of software and computer systems architectural principles to integrate a set of enterprise computer applications.
Supply chain management applications (for managing inventory and shipping), customer relationship management applications (for managing current and potential customers), business intelligence applications (for finding patterns from existing data from operations), and other types of applications (for managing data such as human resources data, health care, internal communications, etc) typically cannot communicate with one another in order to share data or business rules. For this reason, such applications are sometimes referred to as islands of automation or information silos. This lack of communication leads to inefficiencies, wherein identical data are stored in multiple locations, or straightforward processes are unable to be automated.
Enterprise application integration (EAI) is the process of linking such applications within a single organization together in order to simplify and automate business processes to the greatest extent possible, while at the same time avoiding having to make sweeping changes to the existing applications or data structures. EAI is the u201Cunrestricted sharing of data and business processes among any connected application or data sources in the enterprise.u201D[1]
One large challenge of EAI is that the various systems that need to be linked together often reside on different operating systems, use different database solutions and different computer languages, and in some cases are legacy systems that are no longer supported by the vendor who originally created them. In some cases, such systems are dubbed "stovepipe systems" because they consist of components that have been jammed together in a way that makes it very hard to modify them in any way.
EAI can be used for different purposes:
Data (information) Integration: Ensuring that information in multiple systems is kept consistent. This is also known as EII (Enterprise Information Integration).
Process Integration: Linking business processes across applications.
Vendor independence: Extracting business policies or rules from applications and implementing them in the EAI system, so that even if one of the business applications is replaced with a different vendor's application, the business rules do not have to be re-implemented.
Common Facade: An EAI system could front-end a cluster of applications, providing a single consistent access interface to these applications and shielding users from having to learn to interact with different applications
EDI:
An inter-company, application-to-application communication of data in standard format for business transactions, Electronic Data Interchange (EDI) is a set of standards for structuring information that is to be electronically exchanged between and within businesses, organizations, government entities and other groups. The standards describe structures that emulate documents, for example purchase orders to automate purchasing. The term EDI is also used to refer to the implementation and operation of systems and processes for creating, transmitting, and receiving EDI documents.
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Sampath
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Hello,
Wat is the difference between the EDI and EAI.can you explain in detail?
ByeJyotsna...
EDI
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Data_Interchange
EAI..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise_application_integration
Pretty good descriptions i think..
Regards
Ravi Raman -
can any one explain me what is ALE and EDI and what is difference between two?
plese explain me with example..
thanks in advance.
with regards,
kps moorthy.The philosophical difference between EDI and ALE can be pinned as follows: If we send data to an external partner, we generally speak of EDI, while ALE is a mechanism to reliable replicate data between trusting systems to store a redundant copy of the IDoc data. The difference is made clear, when we think of a purchase order that is sent as an IDoc. If we send the purchase order to a supplier then the supplier will store the purchase order as a sales order. However, if we send the purchase order via ALE to another R/3 system, then the receiving system will store the purchase order also as a purchase order.
This is an article posted on the site below, You Can easily check it out.
http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/eac/knowledgebaseAnswer/0,295199,sid63_gci983331,00.html
1) ALE = Application Link Enable: Initially developed for SAP as an abstract layer to extract master and transactional data to be sent ellectronically to other SAP systems. These days is also being used to send data no non-SAP systems. ALE is not a protocol or anything like that, it's just abstract layer composed by a set of applications which are capable of extracting aplication data on a 1-time basis or periodically, by selection criteria or incrementally by deltas.
2) In contrast, EDI = Electronic data interface, this is a comunication protocol not designed by SAP but it´s an industry standard. Of course most SAP software supports EDI, but EDI it's no software but the specification of the protocol in itself.
ALE(Application Link Enabling) refers to the losely coupled systems whereas the EDI speaks about the Electronic Document Exchange. We need to enable ALE in order to use the EDI feature. ALE builds the bridge and EDI is the means by which the data moves in and out of the SAP system just like vehicles moving over the bridge. IDOC(Intermediate Documents) are the data containers which will be moving in and out of SAP carrying data.
Thus summarising we need to establish ALE between the systems in order to use EDI between them. In case we need to use EDI between SAP and some other target system then we need a EDI subsystem which understands these IDOCs and converts into the format understood by the target system.
While IDocs have to be understood as a data exchange protocol, EDI and ALE
are typical use cases for IDocs. R/3 uses IDocs for both EDI and ALE to
deliver data to the receiving system.
Check this link for more details.
http://sapabap.iespana.es/sapabap/sap/faq/ale_idocs_bapi.htm
ALE/Idoc information
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/dc/6b835943d711d1893e0000e8323c4f/content.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_scenario_development_procedure.doc
http://edocs.bea.com/elink/adapter/r3/userhtm/ale.htm#1008419
http://www.netweaverguru.com/EDI/HTML/IDocBook.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/index.htm
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale.pdf
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale2.pdf
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/idoc_abap.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/0b/2a60bb507d11d18ee90000e8366fc2/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/78/217da751ce11d189570000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
http://www.allsaplinks.com/idoc_sample.html
http://www.sappoint.com/abap.html
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/dc/6b835943d711d1893e0000e8323c4f/content.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_scenario_development_procedure.doc
http://edocs.bea.com/elink/adapter/r3/userhtm/ale.htm#1008419
http://www.netweaverguru.com/EDI/HTML/IDocBook.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/index.htm
http://www.allsaplinks.com/idoc_sample.html
Check these step-by-step links
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/uuid/ccab6730-0501-0010-ee84-de050a6cc287
https://sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/uuid/8fd773b3-0301-0010-eabe-82149bcc292e
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/uuid/3c5d9ae3-0501-0010-0090-bdfb2d458985
EDI information
http://www.erpgenie.com/sapedi/index.htm
Please refer to site http://edifactory.de which will give you good documentation about EDI.
Check these links for EDI
http://www.netweaverguru.com/EDI/HTML/IDocBook.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/idoc_abap.htm
www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/edi_sap_training.htm
www.sap-img.com/basis/ difference-between-edi-and-idoc.htm
help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/ en/35/26b592afab52b9e10000009b38f974/content.htm
help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/ en/35/26b594afab52b9e10000009b38f974/content.htm
http://www.onestopsap.com/interview-Question/edi/
http://www.intelligententerprise.com/channels/applications/feature/archive/kasturi2.jhtml
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/i830v3020.xls
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/0b/2a655d507d11d18ee90000e8366fc2/frameset.htm
http://www.hud.gov/offices/hsg/comp/edi/0306sec1.cfm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/index.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/dc/6b835943d711d1893e0000e8323c4f/content.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_scenario_development_procedure.doc
http://edocs.bea.com/elink/adapter/r3/userhtm/ale.htm#1008419
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/index.htm
http://www.allsaplinks.com/idoc_sample.html
http://www.sap-img.com/abap/ale-bapi.htm
http://www.sap-img.com/basis/difference-between-edi-and-idoc.htm
http://www.sappro.com/downloads/OneClientDistribution.pdf
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_scenario_development_procedure.doc
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/idoc_abap.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/0b/2a60bb507d11d18ee90000e8366fc2/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/dc/6b828943d711d1893e0000e8323c4f/frameset.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/ale/whitepaper.htm
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/BCMIDALEIO/BCMIDALEIO.pdf
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/BCMIDALEPRO/BCMIDALEPRO.pdf
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/CABFAALEQS/CABFAALEQS.pdf
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/BCSRVEDISC/CAEDISCAP_STC.pdf
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/BCSRVEDI/CAEDI.pdf
regards,
srinivas
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Hi
I am learning some stuff on ALE,EDI and IDOCS... are there any good sites which gives clear step by step procedure for the above.
Thanks in Advance.
SudhiHi Sudhi
You can find details on SAP courses from your country's sap.com site. You can find links from http://www.sap.com/contactsap/countries/index.aspx .
Also some Education Partners of SAP give courses. Some info about these will also be there...
Regards...
*--Serdar -
ALE , EDI and IDOC with MM??
hii
What is ALE, EDI and IDOC in SAP??
How its linked with MM??
Explain the above things with example
ThanksHi!
IDOC = Intermediate Document
IDoc or Intermediate Document is a standard SAP document format. IDoc's allow different application systems to be linked via a message-based interface.
For more detailled information look in SAPNET under
http://service.sap.com/EDI
For exapmle in purchasing:
The IDoc message type ORDERS is used to send a purchase order to a vendor.
EDI = Electronic Data Interchange
EDI stands for Electronic Data Interchange, which means that data is electronically transmitted from one system to another. The main requirement of EDI is that the systems of the communicating partners understand each other. Usually, the data from one partner gets mapped into the format of the other partner and vice versa.
Supporting this there exist EDI standards (named EDIFACT, ANSIX12, ODETTE, VDA, TRADACOMS, SPEC2000, ...), where the data formatting for exchanging documents are specified. Normally the partners agree using a special standard message (for example EDIFACT message ORDERS for a purchase order).
In the SAP system the outgoing data are stored in IDoc format. When processing a receiving document, the Inbound SAP system receives the data in IDoc format too.
Further processing (converting/mapping from IDoc in another format and vice versa) depends on the partner agreement:
If the partners have agreed using a special EDI standard, mapping between IDoc and the EDI standard is necessary. This mapping is not supported by SAP, external converters or EDI subsystems must be installed by the customers for this purpose.
If both systems use SAP software, there is usually no need for mapping (which can save users a lot of money). The two systems are often connected via ALE (Application Link Enabling).
If partners are using XML, the SAP Business Connector can be used. The business connector is a tool used to help customers connect via EDI. It includes routing and mapping and is XML compatible. To read more about XML at SAP go to SAPNet Alias 'XML' (http://intranet.sap.com/XML).
For example:
Vendor can send the invoice by EDI creating an IDoc with message type INVOIC using IDoc Type INVOICxx. He can determine (depending on the partner agreement) how to create an IDoc for Inbound processing with FI or MM-IV.
ALE = Application Link Enabling
ALE is short for Application Link Enabling. Special Basic programs support this functionaliity (see documentation of BC_MID_ALE).
To link applications you have to configure an ALE model. It contains all relevant data about how a system's configuration (normally a central system and assigned local systems) exchange data.
With help of the ALE technology, the distribution of contracts is possible in MM via the following business process:
Contracts that a central purchasing organization distributes to local purchasing organizations to allow the latter to utilize the more favorable conditions they contain for the procurement of materials or external services.Each local purchasing organization sends information on its own release orders back to the central purchasing organization.
For this purpose the contract in the central system can be copied to the local systems (with message BLAORD and COND_A). When a release order to a distributed contract is created in a local system, the release docu is automatically sent to the central system (with message BLAREL) updating the release docu of the contract in the central system.
Precondition for this scenario is, that in all systems the used master data (material, vendor, sources of supply, ...) are the same. This master data can be distributed by ALE, which should be done before sending the contract from the central system. Available message types for distribution of master data are:
MATMAS (ARTMAS in retail system) for material master
CREMAS for Vendor master
INFREC for info record
SRCLST for source list
COND_A for conditions of info record
SRVMAS for service master data
Technical documentation to ALE can be found by path:
Basis Components / Middleware (BC-MID) / Application Link Enabling (BC-MID-ALE)
The most important Transactions for testing Idoc:
WE02 Display IDOC
WE05 IDOC list
WE19 Testing IDOCs
BD87 Status Monitor for ALE Messages (reprocess)
Notes:
456127 FAQ: Electronic Data Interchange (EDI) in Purchasing
536411 Sample scenario for ALE contract distribution (only internally released)
I hope I could help you fruther
Best regards
Erika -
Hi,
I am new to Idocs i would like to know the cofiguration settings for EDI and ALE from starting.I know abt creating partner profiles and the other stuff. I would like to know in detail. Please let me know.
Thanks in Advance,
Srikanth.NHi
Data Creation in Idoc
IDocs are text encoded documents with a rigid structure that are used to exchange data between R/3 and a foreign system. Instead of calling a program in the destination system directly, the data is first packed into an IDoc and then sent to the receiving system, where it is analyzed and properly processed. Therefore an IDoc data exchange is always an
asynchronous process. The significant difference between simple RFC-calls and IDoc data exchange is the fact, that every action performed on IDocs are protocolled by R/3 and IDocs can be reprocessed if an error occurred in one of the message steps.
While IDocs have to be understood as a data exchange protocol, EDI and ALE are typical use cases for IDocs. R/3 uses IDocs for both EDI and ALE to deliver data to the receiving system. ALE is basically the scheduling mechanism that defines when and between which partners and what kind of data will be exchanged on a regular or event triggered basis. Such a set-up is called an ALE-scenario.
IDoc is a intermediate document to exchange data between two SAP Systems.
*IDocs are structured ASCII files (or a virtual equivalent).
*Electronic Interchange Document
*They are the file format used by SAP R/3 to exchange data with foreign systems.
*Data Is transmitted in ASCII format, i.e. human readable form
*IDocs exchange messages
*IDocs are used like classical interface files
IDOC types are templates for specific message types depending on what is the business document, you want to exchange.
WE30 - you can create a IDOC type.
An IDOC with data, will have to be triggered by the application that is trying to send out the data.
FOr testing you can use WE19.
How to create idoc?
*WE30 - you can create a IDOC type
For more information in details on the same along with the examples can be viewed on:
http://www.netweaverguru.com/EDI/HTML/IDocBook.htm#_Toc8400404
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/0b/2a6620507d11d18ee90000e8366fc2/frameset.htm
http://www.sappoint.com/presentation.html
http://www.allsaplinks.com/idoc_search.html
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/idoc_abap.htm
http://www.erpgenie.com/sapedi/idoc_abap.htm
To Create Idoc we need to follow these steps:
Create Segment ( WE31)
Create Idoc Type ( WE30 )
Create Message Type ( WE81 )
Assign Idoc Type to Message Type ( WE82 )
Creating a Segment
Go to transaction code WE31
Enter the name for your segment type and click on the Create icon
Type the short text
Enter the variable names and data elements
Save it and go back
Go to Edit -> Set Release
Follow steps to create more number of segments
Create IDOC Type
Go to transaction code WE30
Enter the Object Name, select Basic type and click Create icon
Select the create new option and enter a description for your basic IDOC type and press enter
Select the IDOC Name and click Create icon
The system prompts us to enter a segment type and its attributes
Choose the appropriate values and press Enter
The system transfers the name of the segment type to the IDOC editor.
Follow these steps to add more number of segments to Parent or as Parent-child relation
Save it and go back
Go to Edit -> Set release
Create Message Type
Go to transaction code WE81
Change the details from Display mode to Change mode
After selection, the system will give this message The table is cross-client (see Help for further info). Press Enter
Click New Entries to create new Message Type
Fill details
Save it and go back
Assign Message Type to IDoc Type
Go to transaction code WE82
Change the details from Display mode to Change mode
After selection, the system will give this message The table is cross-client (see Help for further info). Press Enter.
Click New Entries to create new Message Type.
Fill details
Save it and go back
Check these out..
Re: How to create IDOC
Check below link. It will give the step by step procedure for IDOC creation.
http://www.supinfo-projects.com/cn/2005/idocs_en/2/
ALE/ IDOC
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/dc/6b835943d711d1893e0000e8323c4f/content.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_scenario_development_procedure.doc
http://edocs.bea.com/elink/adapter/r3/userhtm/ale.htm#1008419
http://www.netweaverguru.com/EDI/HTML/IDocBook.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/index.htm
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale.pdf
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale2.pdf
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/idoc_abap.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/0b/2a60bb507d11d18ee90000e8366fc2/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/78/217da751ce11d189570000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
http://www.allsaplinks.com/idoc_sample.html
http://www.sappoint.com/abap.html
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/dc/6b835943d711d1893e0000e8323c4f/content.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_scenario_development_procedure.doc
http://edocs.bea.com/elink/adapter/r3/userhtm/ale.htm#1008419
http://www.netweaverguru.com/EDI/HTML/IDocBook.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/index.htm
http://www.allsaplinks.com/idoc_sample.html
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_scenario_development_procedure.docs
go trough these links.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/dc/6b835943d711d1893e0000e8323c4f/content.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_scenario_development_procedure.doc
http://edocs.bea.com/elink/adapter/r3/userhtm/ale.htm#1008419
http://www.netweaverguru.com/EDI/HTML/IDocBook.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/index.htm
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale.pdf
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale2.pdf
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/idoc_abap.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/0b/2a60bb507d11d18ee90000e8366fc2/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/78/217da751ce11d189570000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
http://www.allsaplinks.com/idoc_sample.html
http://www.sappoint.com/abap.html
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/dc/6b835943d711d1893e0000e8323c4f/content.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_scenario_development_procedure.doc
http://edocs.bea.com/elink/adapter/r3/userhtm/ale.htm#1008419
http://www.netweaverguru.com/EDI/HTML/IDocBook.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/index.htm
http://www.allsaplinks.com/idoc_sample.html
http://http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/dc/6b835943d711d1893e0000e8323c4f/content.htm
An IDoc is simply a data container that is used to exchange information between any two processes that can understand the syntax and semantics of the data...
1.IDOCs are stored in the database. In the SAP system, IDOCs are stored in database tables.
2.IDOCs are independent of the sending and receiving systems.
3.IDOCs are independent of the direction of data exchange.
The two available process for IDOCs are
Outbound Process
Inbound Process
AND There are basically two types of IDOCs.
Basic IDOCs
Basic IDOC type defines the structure and format of the business document that is to be exchanged between two systems.
Extended IDOCs
Extending the functionality by adding more segments to existing Basic IDOCs.
To Create Idoc we need to follow these steps:
Create Segment ( WE31)
Create Idoc Type ( WE30)
Create Message Type ( WE81)
Assign Idoc Type to Message Type ( WE82)
imp links
http://www.allsaplinks.com/idoc_sample.html
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/idoc_abap.htm
www.sappoint.com
--here u can find the ppts and basic seetings for ALE
http://sappoint.com/presentation.html
www.sapgenie.com
http://www.sapgenie.com/ale/index.htm
WE30 - you can create a IDOC type.
An IDOC with data, will have to be triggered by the application that is trying to send out the data.
Try this..Hope this will help.
>>>> SAP ALE & IDOC<<<<
Steps to configuration(Basis) >>
1. Create Logical System (LS) for each applicable ALE-enabled client
2. Link client to Logical System on the respective servers
3. Create background user, to be used by ALE(with authorizaton for ALE postings)
4. Create RFC Destinations(SM59)
5. Ports in Idoc processing(WE21)
6. Generate partner profiles for sending system
The functional configuration(Tcode: SALE)
Create a Customer Distribution Model (CDM);
Add appropriate message types and filters to the CDM;
Generate outbound partner profiles;
Distribute the CDM to the receiving systems; and
Generate inbound partner profiles on each of the clients.
Steps to customize a new IDoc >>>
1. Define IDoc Segment (WE31)
2. Convert Segments into an IDoc type (WE30)
3. Create a Message Type (WE81)
4. Create valid Combination of Message & IDoc type(WE82)
5. Define Processing Code(WE41 for OUT / WE42 for IN)
6. Define Partner Profile(WE20)
Important Transaction Codes:
SALE - IMG ALE Configuration root
WE20 - Manually maintain partner profiles
BD64 - Maintain customer distribution model
BD71 - Distribute customer distribution model
SM59 - Create RFC Destinations
BDM5 - Consistency check (Transaction scenarios)
BD82 - Generate Partner Profiles
BD61 - Activate Change Pointers - Globally
BD50 - Activate Change Pointer for Msg Type
BD52 - Activate change pointer per change.doc object
BD59 - Allocation object type -> IDOC type
BD56 - Maintain IDOC Segment Filters
BD53 - Reduction of Message Types
BD21 - Select Change Pointer
BD87 - Status Monitor for ALE Messages
BDM5 - Consistency check (Transaction scenarios)
BD62 - Define rules
BD79 - Maintain rules
BD55 - Defining settings for IDoc conversion
WEDI - ALE IDoc Administration
WE21 - Ports in Idoc processing
WE60 - IDoc documentation
SARA - IDoc archiving (Object type IDOC)
WE47 - IDoc status maintenance
WE07 - IDoc statistics
BALE - ALE Distribution Administration
WE05 - IDoc overview
BD87 - Inbound IDoc reprocessing
BD88 - Outbound IDoc reprocessing
BDM2 - IDoc Trace
BDM7 - IDoc Audit Analysis
BD21 - Create IDocs from change pointers
SM58 - Schedule RFC Failures
Basic config for Distributed data:
BD64: Maintain a Distributed Model
BD82: Generate Partner Profile
BD64: Distribute the distribution Model
Programs
RBDMIDOC Creating IDoc Type from Change Pointers
RSEOUT00 Process all selected IDocs (EDI)
RBDAPP01 - Inbound Processing of IDocs Ready for Transfer
RSARFCEX - Execute Calls Not Yet Executed
RBDMOIND - Status Conversion with Successful tRFC Execution
RBDMANIN - Start error handling for non-posted IDocs
RBDSTATE - Send Audit Confirmations
FOr testing you can use WE19.
Check these links.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/dc/6b835943d711d1893e0000e8323c4f/content.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_scenario_development_procedure.doc
http://edocs.bea.com/elink/adapter/r3/userhtm/ale.htm#1008419
http://www.netweaverguru.com/EDI/HTML/IDocBook.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/index.htm
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale.pdf
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale2.pdf
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/idoc_abap.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/0b/2a60bb507d11d18ee90000e8366fc2/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/78/217da751ce11d189570000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
http://www.allsaplinks.com/idoc_sample.html
http://www.sappoint.com/abap.html
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/dc/6b835943d711d1893e0000e8323c4f/content.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_scenario_development_procedure.doc
http://edocs.bea.com/elink/adapter/r3/userhtm/ale.htm#1008419
http://www.netweaverguru.com/EDI/HTML/IDocBook.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/index.htm
http://www.allsaplinks.com/idoc_sample.html
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_scenario_development_procedure.docs
Please check this PDF documents for ALE and IDoc.
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale.pdf
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale2.pdf
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/BCMIDALEIO/BCMIDALEIO.pdf
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/BCMIDALEPRO/BCMIDALEPRO.pdf
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/CABFAALEQS/CABFAALEQS.pdf
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/BCSRVEDISC/CAEDISCAP_STC.pdf
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/BCSRVEDI/CAEDI.pdf
Check below link. It will give the step by step procedure for IDOC creation.
http://www.supinfo-projects.com/cn/2005/idocs_en/2/
Outbound:
Step 1. Application document is created when transaction is saved.
2. Message control is invoked.
3. Messages are processed by system.
4. Messages are Edited (if desired).
5. Output (ALE / EDI) is checked
6. Validate against Message control record from Partner Profile
7. Application Document is saved.
8. Entry NAST table is created for every selected output program
along with Medium & Timing.
9. Check for Process Immediately .
If (yes)
Determine Processing Program from TNAPR Table.
ELSE
Execute RSNASTED Program.
10. Read Partner Profile to determine Process Code.
11. Process Code points to the Function Module & Invoked.
12. IDoc is generated.
13. Check for ALE Request.
if (Yes)
Perform Filters, Conversions, Version Changes etc.
Else.
IDoc is stored in DATABASE.
INBOUND:
Step 1. EDI Subsystem creates an IDoc file from EDI Messages
2. Subsystem calls Functional Module EDI_DATA_INCOMING from startRFC program.
3. Data in Control Record is validate against the Partner Profile.
4. IDoc is generated in Database and syntax check is carried out.
5. IDoc file is deleted once file read.
6. Event PROCESSSTATE REACHED is triggered in Idoc Object Workflow.
7. Check for Process Immediately.
If NO
Execute RBDAPP01 Program
Else
Read Process Code from Partner Profile
Process Code Points to Function Module
Application Document Posted.
further help:
check url
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale.pdf
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale2.pdf
http://www.sapgenie.com/ale/configuration.htm
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale.pdf
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale2.pdf
http://www.sapdevelopment.co.uk/training
And also u can get lots of inof from the below link.
http://www.sapgenie.com/ale/why_ale.htm
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Anji -
Cand any one of you tell me exact difference between EDI and ALE
hi praneeth,
ALE: Application link enabling is a methodology used to transfer data between two applications
EDI (Electronic Data Interchange) is the standards to integrate data between those applications who support these standards
IDOC s are converted into a standard text format by EDI and send it to receiver application which is able to interpret that message means which support edi standards.
PLS refer existing threads, articles,blogs b4 posting
Regards,
Mandeep Virk -
Hi Experts,
What is the diff btn EDI and ALE.
Straight answers will be rewarded.
Regards,
SAIHi,
In simple words ...
ALE is technology for SAP mainly use to transfer data between SAP systems.
EDI is the independent technology use to transfer data between two systems, they can be SAP systems or non SAP systems.
ALE = Application Link Enable: Initially developed for SAP as an abstract layer to extract master and transactional data to be sent ellectronically to other SAP systems. These days is also being used to send data no non-SAP systems. ALE is not a protocol or anything like that, it's just abstract layer composed by a set of applications which are capable of extracting aplication data on a 1-time basis or periodically, by selection criteria or incrementally by deltas.
In contrast, EDI = Electronic data interface, this is a comunication protocol not designed by SAP but it´s an industry standard. Of course most SAP software supports EDI, but EDI it's no software but the specification of the protocol in itself.
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Padmam. -
JMS Adapter , EDI and SEEBURGER Adapters
HI All
Please briefly explain JMS adapter ,EDI and seeburger adapter .could you please the correlated linksHello
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Dear All,
Please, can anyone tell me what is the difference between ALE/EDI and RFCs?
Thanks in advance.
Kind Regards,
Umesh.Hi prasad,
1) ALE = Application Link Enable: Initially developed for SAP as an abstract layer to extract master and transactional data to be sent ellectronically to other SAP systems. These days is also being used to send data no non-SAP systems. ALE is not a protocol or anything like that, it's just abstract layer composed by a set of applications which are capable of extracting aplication data on a 1-time basis or periodically, by selection criteria or incrementally by deltas.
2) In contrast, EDI = Electronic data interface, this is a comunication protocol not designed by SAP but it´s an industry standard. Of course most SAP software supports EDI, but EDI it's no software but the specification of the protocol in itself.
These r some major difference b/w ALE and EDI:
ALE: used to transfer IDOC with in the R3 distributed system.
EDI: used to transfer IDOC from R3 system to non sap system
ALE --This method is used to transfer master data
EDI--This method is maximum used to transfer transactional data.
ALE--RFC port is used
*EDI*-- FILE port is used
ALE--Data transfer takes place from one mother client to N different clients
EDI-- one partner 2 other partner thru customer distribution model
The philosophical difference between EDI and ALE can be pinned as follows:
If we send data to an external partner, we generally speak of EDI, while ALE is a mechanism to
reliable replicate data between trusting systems to store a redundant copy of the IDoc data.
The difference is made clear, when we think of a purchase order that is sent as an IDoc.
If we send the purchase order to a supplier then the supplier will store the purchase order as a sales order.
However, if we send the purchase order via ALE to another R/3 system, then the receiving system will store the purchase order also as a purchase order.
ALE
ALE is SAP proprietary technology that enables data communications between two or more SAP R/3 systems and/or R/3 and external systems. When a new enterprise resource planning (ERP) solution such as R/3 is implemented, companies have to interface the ERP system with legacy systems or other ERP systems.
ALE provides intelligent mechanisms where by clients can achieve integration as well as distribution of applications and data.
ALE technology facilitates rapid application prototyping and application interface development, thus reducing implementation time.
The ALE components are inherently integrated with SAP applications and are robust, leading to a highly reliable system.
ALE comes with application distribution/integration scenarios as well as a set of tools, programs, data definitions, and methodologies that you can easily configure to get an interface up and running.
ALE allows for efficient and reliable communication between distributed processes across physically separate SAP systems.
ALE is based on application to application integration using messaging architecture. A message defines data that is exchanged between two processes. IDocs are containers that hold data exchanged between the two systems.
Benefits of ALE:
Integration with non-SAP systems: ALE architecture allows third party applications to integrate with SAP system.
Reliable Distribution: Once message type created and the receiver of the message is determined, ALE delivers the message to the recipient. If there is any network problem it will buffer the message and delivers the message once the network is restored. It also ensures that the message is not delivered twice.
Release Upgrade: Any of the distributed system can be upgraded to the new release of SAP without affecting the functionality. The ALE layer ensures backward compatibility of messages exchanged between systems.
While IDocs have to be understood as a data exchange protocol, EDI and ALE are typical use cases for IDocs. R/3 uses IDocs for both EDI and ALE to deliver data to the receiving system. ALE is basically the scheduling mechanism that defines when and between which partners and what kind of data will be exchanged on a regular or event triggered basis. Such a set-up is called an ALE-scenario.
The philosophical difference between EDI and ALE can be pinned as follows: If we send data to an external partner, we generally speak of EDI, while ALE is a mechanism to reliable replicate data between trusting systems to store a redundant copy of the IDoc data. The difference is made clear, when we think of a purchase order that is sent as an IDoc. If we send the purchase order to a supplier then the supplier will store the purchase order as a sales order. However, if we send the purchase order via ALE to another R/3 system, then the receiving system will store the purchase order also as a purchase order.
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Relation of ALE , EDI and idoc
HI
what is relation of these ALE, EDI, IDOC , i know the definition of these , i want know ( while the transfer of sap to sap ALE tool is used ,) where this idoc is used ,
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shivajiHi Shivaji,
What is EDI ?
Electronic Data Interchange
The computer-to-computer electronic exchange of machine processable business documents in a standard format
An electronic alternative to paper, fax, and phone-based transactions used by companies to communicate with one another
Purpose:
Allows for better time management and relieves the entering of duplicate information while cutting down on discrepancies and human intervention.
The Electronic Data Interchange component in Sales and Distribution consists of an Intermediate Document (IDoc) [Ext.] interface. You can use this interface to
send messages (outbound processing) such as an order confirmation through Electronic Data Interchange (EDI)
receive messages (inbound processing) such as a sales order through EDI
EDI:
What ?
The technology of transmitting documents electronically
Why ?
For Electronic Data Interchange between a company and trading partners
How ?
By means of an electronic document - the IDoc
From the SAP side, the EDI interface is based on IDoc technology, which is independent of
EDI standards. All data is transferred in files between the R/3 System and the EDI subsystem.
Synchronous Remote Function Call (RFC) is implemented to define the time of transfer for a
file between the two systems. The following data can be transferred using the EDI interface:
Outbound Idocs: IDocs are transferred from the R/3 System to the EDI subsystem.
Inbound Idocs: IDocs are transferred from the EDI subsystem to the R/3 System.
Status report: The EDI subsystem sends a status report to the R/3 System on the progress of
the processing of the outbound Idoc.
Contents of IDOC
The data in every IDoc is exchanged between the SAP system and a subsystem in the following three record types, irrespective of the IDoc type:
Control record (Table: EDIDC): Contains information about Sender and Receiver. There is only one control record per IDoc. It consists of
IDoc Number
Sender and Receiver information
IDoc Message Type* / Port.
IDoc Type / Direction / Current status / Partner No / Partner Type (Vendor/customer)
Data record (Table: EDIDD): Contains the message to be exchanged between Sender and Receiver. An IDoc can contain multiple data records, as defined by the IDoc structure. Data records store application data such as purchase order / sales order header information, sales order details like sales doc #, Material / Qty and other relevant information.
Status record (Table: EDIDS): Contains Status of IDoc at various stages, during the transmission of IDoc between Sender and Receiver. Multiple status records are usually attached to an IDoc. Status records are attached to an IDoc throughout the process like status code, date and time at every stage
Know Me
Basic Type: The form of IDOC type that is originally created in the system. Like ORDERS01 is a basic type IDOC for order messages. It is using the basic types only you would be able to enhance them to suit new requirements within the same IDOC structure. Any enhancement to the basic type IDOC will produce an Extension IDOC that would be more or less similar to the basic type with some new additions (of segments or fields). Here, I would go on to say that IDOC type and Basic type is the same thing that would be referred to interchangeably.
Message type: Again, obvious from the name, its the message that is being conveyed. A message type is assigned to the Basic type. Here, logical messages are assigned to the basic type to reflect a business message being transacted. For example, ORDERS is the message type for a purchase order sent by buyer to vendor. The use of which Basic type in this message will differ from buyer to vendor. Basic types used for ORDERS are ORDERS01/02/ etc...Also, one may come up with a custom built IDOC type (or basic type as you can say)...But it is essential to associate a message type with a basic type IDOC. This feature will enable the same IDOC type to be used for a related message. For example : ORDERS01 can be used for message ORDERS for posting a order, the same IDOC can be associated with message ORDCHG to indicate that the message is an order change and so the processing of this IDOC will change accordingly.
IDoc Type:
 Defines the structure of data records
 IDoc Type is used to understand the message in string form available in the data records.
 IDoc type is version dependent i.e an Idoc type can be used only in versions in and above the version in which IDoc is released.
 Transaction WE30 is used to define and release IDoc Types
 Newly created Idoc is a BASIC IDoc and modifications
(Additions of segments) to IDoc after it has been released can be done by creation of extension of IDoc.
 IDoc type can be defined by structuring Segments
Function Module: The most important player in the IDOC processing. This is nothing but an ABAP program to process the IDOC. SAP has supplied function modules to process all standard basic IDOCs and messages. A function module is determined based on the Basic IDOC type and the message type (also message code). So from the above descriptions about basic and message type, the combination of two would primarily determine which IDOC will process this idoc. As an instance, ORDERS01 with message ORDERS is configured to be processed by FM IDOC_INPUT_ORDERS. Similarly, ORDERS01 + ORDCHG will be processed by IDOC_INPUT_ORDCHG. Likewise, you can see all associations in WE57 for inbound. For out bounds, you would refer to process codes (WE41).
Segments: The idenfiers in the IDOC structure which indicates the data, their level, state of occurrence....You can take them as records in the IDOC. Each individual segment will come to you as a record in the IDOC. (Go to EDID4, provide an IDOC # and it will list all included segments as records.) Segments are logically nested to indicate various levels of data (header, item etc).
Qualifiers: Inside the segments, there are fields that can carry actual data often signified by use of qualifiers. A qualifier for a segment field would provide the exact meaning of the data. For example, E1EDK03 segment is configured for dates related data. Segment field IDDAT qualifies the date type and the DATUM field gives out the actual date. So you may see a date qualified as 002, which can be interpreted as requested delivery date. Likewise you can see all qualifiers and their meanings in the associated segment fields in SE12. Give the segment name and go to the domain the ranges for the ID fields.
How EDI Works
Sending Data
Computer system serves as a data repository.
EDI extracts information from existing computer applications.
Transmits paperless, computer-readable documents via telephone lines.
Receiving Data
Fed directly into a computer system.
Automatically processed and interfaced with internal applications.
Processing Time
Accomplished in minutes.
No re-keying.
No paper shuffling.
No attendant costs of manual document processing and delivery.
What is the difference between ALE, EDI, IDocs and BAPI?
The interface concept of the classic R/3 is based on two different strategies: Remote Function Calls (RFC) and data exchange through IDoc message documents. RFC makes direct and synchronous calls of a program in the remote system. If the caller is an external program it will call an RFC-enabled function in R/3 and if the calling program is the R/3 system it will call an RFC-function in another R/3-system or it will call a non-R/3 program through a gateway-proxy (usually rfcexec.exe). BAPIs are a subset of the RFC-enabled function modules, especially designed as Application Programming Interface (API) to the SAP business object, or in other words: are function modules officially released by SAP to be called from external programs.
IDocs are text encoded documents with a rigid structure that are used to exchange data between R/3 and a foreign system. Instead of calling a program in the destination system directly, the data is first packed into an IDoc and then sent to the receiving system, where it is analyzed and properly processed. Therefore an IDoc data exchange is always an asynchronous process. The significant difference between simple RFC-calls and IDoc data exchange is the fact, that every action performed on IDocs are protocolled by R/3 and IDocs can be reprocessed if an error occurred in one of the message steps.
While IDocs have to be understood as a data exchange protocol, EDI and ALE are typical use cases for IDocs. R/3 uses IDocs for both EDI and ALE to deliver data to the receiving system. ALE is basically the scheduling mechanism that defines when and between which partners and what kind of data will be exchanged on a regular or event triggered basis. Such a set-up is called an ALE-scenario.
The philosophical difference between EDI and ALE can be pinned as follows: If we send data to an external partner, we generally speak of EDI, while ALE is a mechanism to reliable replicate data between trusting systems to store a redundant copy of the IDoc data. The difference is made clear, when we think of a purchase order that is sent as an IDoc. If we send the purchase order to a supplier then the supplier will store the purchase order as a sales order. However, if we send the purchase order via ALE to another R/3 system, then the receiving system will store the purchase order also as a purchase order.
ALE/EDI - Purpose
Electronic Data Interchange (EDI) and Application Link Enabling (ALE) are used for exchanging business data between different systems.
For both these forms of communication, you require the IDoc Interface. The IDoc interface is made up of the definition of a data structure and the processing logic of this data structure. The data structure is the IDoc. The IDoc is the general exchange format of the communicating systems. IDocs can be sent using different methods (for example, RFC or as a file).
Application Link Enabling (ALE)
You distribute data using ALE if you want to communicate from one system to one or more other (mostly internal) systems. ALE transfers data in IDoc format and uses the methods of tRFC for data transfer.
1. ALE enables the integration of business processes across several SAP or non-SAP systems.
Electronic Data Interchange (EDI)
You use EDI if you want to exchange business application documents with an (external) partner system (for example, a customer or vendor). The SAP system sends EDI messages in IDoc format to an EDI subsystem, where they are converted to a universal EDI standard (UN/EDIFACT or ANSI/X12). This enables communication with non-SAP systems.
1. By definition, two partners are involved in the process in an EDI application scenario: The sender and the recipient of an EDI message.
IDoc Interface/ALE
Purpose
The IDoc interface exchanges business data with an external system.
The IDoc interface consists of the definition of a data structure, along with processing logic for this data structure.
The data structure is the IDoc. The IDoc is the exchange format common to all the communicating systems. You can specify exception handling in the SAP Business Workflow, with IDocs, without the data already having to exist as SAP application documents.
You need the IDoc interface in the following scenarios:
Electronic data exchange (EDI)
Connect other business application systems (e.g. PC applications, external Workflow tools) by IDoc
Application Link Enabling (ALE).
Application Link Enabling (ALE) is a technology to create and run distributed applications
Hope this would help you.
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Vamsi. -
Relation between EDI and SAP MM
Hello Gurus,
Is there any relation between SAP MM and EDI...?
Omkar--Hello Omkar,
There is no specific relation between EDI and SAP MM. SAP MM module is for your internal data while Industry EDI is communication media.
E.g.
If you create a PO in your system , it is related to your MM part while information with regards to craeted PO is supplied to vendor by EDI _ Electronic data interchange.
Hope this will help you.
Amit C kulkarni. -
What is diff bet EDI and XI?
Hi Friends
What is diff bet EDI and XI?
Regards
Vinny Novice"EDI is a technique used to communicate business transactions between computer systems of different companies and organizations. Note that sometimes the EDI mechanism deployed at a company is often used to interface to other systems within the same organization."
The business data is saved in IDoc format in the IDoc Interface and is forwarded as IDocs. If an error occurs, exception handling is triggered using SAP tasks. The agents who are responsible for these tasks and have the relevant authorizations are defined in the IDoc Interface.
Features
The IDoc Interface supports three types of data flow with the external system:
· Outbound processing
IDocs are transferred to a receiving system from your SAP System.
· Inbound processing
IDocs are transferred to your SAP System from an upstream system.
· Status processing
XI
SAP XI is based on general standards so as to enable external systems to be integrated. At the center of the infrastructure is an XML-based communication that uses HTTP (Hyper Text Transfer Protocol). The application-specific contents are transferred in messages in user-defined XML (eXtensible Markup Language) schema from the sender to the receiver using the Integration Server.
● Modeling and design of messages, transformations, and cross-component integration processes
● Configuration options for managing collaborative processes and message flow
● Runtime for message and process management
● Adapter Engine for integrating heterogeneous system components
● Central monitoring for monitoring message flow and processes
Thanks -
Difference between EDI and ALE.
Hi gurus,
Let clarify my confusion in difference between EDI and ALE.please give a proper example for the same.
please have a look my confusions as mentioned below:
Case 1--In same company,suppose we r using two clients 417 and 416 and want to transfer sap data between these two clients.Then which process (EDI or ALE) has to be follow?
Case2--Suppose want to transfer data from SAP system to non SAP system then which process(EDI or ALE) has to be follow.
Regards
Ashish KHi,
Follow the links on ALE and EDI
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_02/helpdata/en/a5/63240543a211d189410000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
http://www.thespot4sap.com/Articles/SAP_ALE_Introduction.asp
http://www.wb.nic.in/internet/edi.html
In both cases you can use any one either ALE or EDI.
Rgds,
Suman -
Hi all!
I have to work on EDIs and everything is setup at my client(incoming invoice 810 , inbound and rejection notice 864(outbound) .) and I have to deal with the issues that may come up regarding EDI s
Could please someone send me the documents on EDI,IDOCs and also let me know what kind of issues we get with EDIs and what we need to do if we get an issue with EDI( like how to see the IDOC error message , researching where its going wrong , correcting it and reprocessing.. etc..)
I will be really thankful, if someone could help me regarding this.
Points guaranteed
Regards.Hi,
Good evening and greetings,
You can use the TCode WEDI, which deals only with the IDOC and EDI...Normally the major error is failure of processing and you can reprocess using the T.Code BD87 and also check for the configuration in WE20.
Please reward points if found useful.
Thanking you,
With kindest regards
Ramesh Padmanabhan
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