Renaming ICC profile in CS6

Hi, I'm trying to simplify my print profile names.
I can edit filename in Windows 8, but not the embedded ICC name that comes up in the print module.
Is there a way to do this? thanks, James

Seems to me I've been able to change the names of profiles right in Photoshop, but it's been a while since I've done that and I admit to not remembering the details. Something about going through the Custom RGB entry while the one you want to change is selected. I'm sorry I can't be more specific - I'm not where I can experiment right now.
-Noel

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Although they are in the correct folder in Windows 7, not all my ICC profiles appear in print setup.
eg I have recently installed one for a Museo paper but it does not show in the list.
I use the Canon Pro9500 Markll.
Has anyone any idea to fix this?

Thanks for your reply. I have been using this printer for some time but with a much earlier version of Photoshop. With that combination, all of my Hahnemuehle papers (profiles downloaded from them) were listed.
I can't understand why a more recent Photoshop should have fewer settings. Should I remove the profiles from the spool>drivers>color folder & download them afresh, perhaps?

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thanks! what finnally worked better was renaming the «settings» folder in te «color folder» in the library with ~before the name. now indesign is asking me for thw icc profiles but still works, so i asume i can reinstall color settings only for indesign and go on.

Distiller can not find its sdandard ICC profiles

I have Acrobat X installed on Windows 7 (x64) as part of CS6 Master collection.
Every 4-5 days during simple browsing I get an pop up with error:
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Hey Tatjana.Esin,
Please install Distiller ICC profiles from the below given link:
Adobe - ICC profiles : For Windows
Unzip this file and copy all .icc files to this location: "C:\Windows\System32\spool\drivers\color"
These new files would probably overwrite old ones thus resolving the issue.
Please check and let me know.
Regards,
Anubha

ICC profiles missing in Print dialogue

Couldnt find anything on this matter. Ill keep it simpe:
Seems the print dialouge in PS CS6 isnt calling on the colorsync folder for ICC profiles.
However, soft proofing does call on these profiles. Any thoughts why I am not able to use ICC profiles in print mode?
Reference attached images.
Profiles loaded:
Profiled Not Loaded:

Chris,
Thanks for the input. In CS5, my soft proofing settings would typically
mirror my printer profiles. I would be able to load my profiles from the
print area in CS5 simply by placing them in the colorsync folder in my mac.
The files to be printed are an RGB file to be sent to an RGB printer (epson
9880). The issue is my paper profiles are not loading in the print dialoge.
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How to set the ICC profile in LR to be the same as PS?

Hi Adobe,
Why do my images look much darker and contrasty in LR(4.3) then they do on PS(CS6) where they have far more tonal range? I'm looking at them side by side on the same screen. I know it has to do with ICC profiles but I can't find how you set that in LR. Any help would be appreciated. An example can be viewed here: http://mikedodd.co.uk/other/temp/Screen%20shot%202013-01-22%20at%2023.06.52.jpg You can see how much better the top (PS) image is.
Thanks
Mike

I'm not familiar with that model, but don't all Coloredges come with Color navigator software and sensor? No need to use third-party calibrators, the results are guaranteed to be much better using the Eizo calibrator. I use Eizo easypix on a pair of Flexscans, and the results are vastly better than using Spyder 3 and ColorEyes Display Pro (which I also have).
In any case the Spyder 2 is not a good sensor. It quickly got a bad reputation and rightly so (I have one sitting in the back of a drawer). Things improved tremendously with the Spyder 3, and now the 4 is out.
The general consensus, however, is that the best "mainstream" third-party calibrator currently on the market is the x-rite i1 Display Pro. If this is what you need to use, maybe it's time to retire the Spyder 2?
Most real-world images contain parts that are out of gamut for sRGB, you'll quickly get used to that. But it can still look good. With a little work, it's possible to make almost anything look good inside sRGB. Consider that almost all monitors have a native color space very close to sRGB. Only the so-called wide gamut monitors (I'm not sure if yours is one) exceed that. But with a standard monitor, what you see is already sRGB.
Relative intent "hard-clips" everything outside the target space gamut, but OTOH preserves everything in-gamut unchanged. Perceptual compresses near the gamut border, sometimes resulting in slight color and tonal changes. The difference isn't dramatic, I never bother with intent, but leave it on relative and deal with clipping when necessary (that is, if you lose desired texture and detail).

Paper icc profiles with 1/2/3 or 4 in the name ??

I would like to know what the significance of the numbers within the canon profile icc paper listings has? For instance, I used the Canon Photo Paper Pro Luster paper type for a print tonight. I used Photoshop CS6 and used the Canon Print Studio Pro plug-in from Photoshop; I set media type at Photo Paper Pro Lustre. But when I chose the icc profile, there were two choices available:
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does anyone understand the Print Quality settings and how they apply or how do those work along with the 1/2/3 and 4 in the icc profile choices?
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I think I found an explanation in one of the Canon manuals for the Pro-1 printer (Page 77), which I printed out last week certain pages.
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Canon XXXXX <GL> <PP> 1/2 Photo Paper Plus Glossy&Gold
(1) is the model name of printer (the XXXXX part)
(2) is the print quality (the 1/2 part)
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ICC profiles jpeg in SWF

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Is it possible to embed an ICC profiled (CMYK/RGB) jpeg image in the SWF file? From which flash player version is it supported?
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Chris,
Thanks for the input. In CS5, my soft proofing settings would typically
mirror my printer profiles. I would be able to load my profiles from the
print area in CS5 simply by placing them in the colorsync folder in my mac.
The files to be printed are an RGB file to be sent to an RGB printer (epson
9880). The issue is my paper profiles are not loading in the print dialoge.
Im curious to know if CS6 is calling on this folder or if the profiles need
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How to fix ICC profile errors?

I just brought Photoshop CS6 lately and I am trying to edit a picture but I get this message:
"The embedded ICC profile cannot be used because the embedded ICC profile is invalid. Ignoring the profile" "
What do I do to fix this?
Please provide clear instructions as this is the first time I am using Photoshop.

Some clueless individual handed you a file with an invalid color profile embedded.
You can either ask for or demand a corrected file from your source, or you can just let Photoshop ignore the profile and then assign different profiles to the file until you find the one that makes the colors in the image look best to you—by trial and error.
You should know that color management is far from an easy subject. If you're a rank beginner in Photoshop, be prepared to do a lot of reading on the subject. You could start here:
http://www.gballard.net/psd/cmstheory.html
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Assigning ICC profile to an AI or EPS document (that has no profile)

Hi
I´m using Illustrator CS6.
I have some AI and EPS files without embed ICC profiles.
I´m trying to write a JavaScript that opens each document, assign the working ICC profile then save and close.
Have already done everything about opening and closing. It´s perfect.
The problem is the embeding ICC profile. Reading Illustrator JavaScript reference I did not find any method I could use to assign an ICC profile to the activeDocument.
Can you confirm it´s really not possible? (to assign an ICC profile to the opened topmost document)
Thank you a lot
Gustavo.

Hi Muppet
Yes the polices work for files that originally has an embed profile. But considering EPS without a profile, it opens in Illustrator as "untagged RGB" or "untagged CMYK"...so the ended AI file wont have a profile!
Will make some other tests here. Altought a little crazy, I found a solution working this way:
1. After opening the EPS, I made a function to unlock all layers and sublayers.
2. Another function to unlock all pageItems then select it (so All pageItems are selected).
3. Used app.copy();
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5. Used app.paste(); to paste in the new document.
6. Used the method to fit the artboard to the selection
7. Saved as AI file
8. Remove the EPS file using File.remove();
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Gustavo.

ICC profiles - few issues

Dears, I've been trying to understand color managment issues and there are still some gaps difficult to fill so far. Thanks in advance for a little support in answering following questions (OS: Win7 64bit, Dell Vostro 3560, testing CS6 ext.) :
1. I am aware that screen of my notebook is not able to generate corectly the whole sRGB space. My question is : if I calibrate the screan by Spyder or other device and if I open in Photoshop a picture showing the whole sRGB gamut is it possible to use "color warning" function in CS6 to display which collors will not be generated by my screen? Is the procedure described in http://damiensymonds.blogspot.com/2010/04/check-your-monitors-gamut.html correct? If not - how to make the settings to do that?
2. How I can find in Photoshop my actual ICC screen profile (it is notebook)? I found in C:\Windows\System32\spool\drivers\color the profile called "CalibratedDisplayProfile-1.icc" which is probably the standard screen profile of my notebook but I cannot find that name in Photoshop list of profiles.
3. I understand the need for ICC profiles of hardwere like screens, printers, scanners, etc. which enable translation of information about collors but what is the meaning of ICC profile of a picture itself? What is editing (or working) collor space?
4. When you save a picture you can choose an option to embed a profile. Why this is necessary? Is it a profile of a target printer or screen on which the picture is going to be watched?
Thanks for any ideas!
Marek

twenty_one wrote:
Just want to clarify one thing: The display profile is not something you, as a user, ever need to concern yourself with (with a few specialized exceptions). All you need to do is make sure it's there and valid. The rest is handled by the OS and applications (insofar as they are color managed and will actually use it).
Yes, that is clear.
If it's listed in Photoshop Color Settings as Monitor RGB <profile name>, that's it. End of story, nothing more you need to do.
The issue that disturbs me is only that I do not know how to recognize the name of ICC profile of my screen in the list of profiles of Adobe Photoshop. For example when I installed a profile of minilab Frontier I see the icc file in my OS: C:\Windows\System32\spool\drivers\color as well as I see this profile in Photoshop list for example when I want to choose a profile for proofing or profile conversion. I know that when you calibrate a monitor and you save the current icc profile it is also visible in Photoshop profiles list. So my only question is why I am not finding the profile of my screen "CalibratedDisplayProfile-1.icc" if its visible in C:\Windows\System32\spool\drivers\color ???
Proofing to monitor RGB is unnecessary, all it shows you is how the image looks without any color management at all.
Well, to be honest the above is not very clear to me because:
a) I heard that if you work on a wide-gamut monitor you can proof to other monitor for example to emulate how your client (who owns worse sRGB screen) will perceive your work
b) I would like to see which colors from sRGB space will not be corectly shown on my monitor according to the excercise described in http://damiensymonds.blogspot.com/2010/04/check-your-monitors-gamut.ht ml
And under no circumstances should it be used as document profile or working space. That point needs to be hammered in for the benefit of anyone reading this, because it's a very common misconception.
Ok about moniotr' profile. But do you agree that converting to a profile of a minilab (which becomes embeded to the original image) can be used in order to make sure that your work will be corectly printed?
And one more thing: I suppose some confusion could arise because the term "convert" is used for all normal color management operations. Mechanically, they're all the same. But there is an operational distinction in that some conversions are done by the user, as when converting a document from one color space to another. Others are automatically performed by applications, like when the document RGB values are converted into the monitor profile for display. For this reason, some like to call this a "color transform" to avoid giving the impression that this is something the user should do to the file itself. However, I like to use the same term because it's basically the same thing that is happening. So, to sum up: You need two profiles to have color management. Where the file is coming from (document RGB), and where the file is going to (monitor, printer etc).
So how to explain the following fact: I took an image with embeded sRGB IEC61966-2.1 profile (the image which I presented in my post from May 11, 2013 1:49 PM). I converted the image profile by EDIT->CONVERT TO PROFILE and I choose a RGB profile of a minilab. Collors reduced as in proofing test. Now when I open the file I see that the source profile (the embeded profile) is the profile of chosen minilab. So the initilal sRGB IEC61966-2.1 image profile disappeared.

ICC Profile save dialogue.

Is there a way to adjust the .AI save dialogue to have ICC profiles permanently unchecked? I am finding that in CS6 all of my effects convert to images once an .AI file is saved out. For instance in my effects palette if I have a drop shadow on a vector object, then save, the shadow will then convert to an un-editable 'image' layer.
Running a Mac OSX 10.6.8 CS6 Suite.
Thank you.

Your raster effects would chnaeg to embedded images if you are opening .AI CS6 files in CS5. ATleast they give you this message to look out for.

SRGB or Blurb icc profile better for soft proofing prior to Book module?

As I understand it images destined for Blurb are converted by the Lr engine into sRGB behind the scenes. To achieve best chance of colour accuracy in the finished Blurb book, is it better to softproof using a sRGB profile or the icc profile* offered on the Blurb Support website. On the surface this icc profile is recommended (by them) for their Booksmart process. Anyone know if that is similar to the Lr Book module process? There is no mention of Lr anywhere on the Blurb color management pages.
It would be great to pin down the answer to this. I cannot find any recommendation for best work practice aimed at getting good colour reproduction in these books; and trial and error, whilst acceptable in making inkjet prints, is a very expensive route when applied to printing a Blurb book.
* And even then, as far as I can see, there is no method for differentiating between the Blurb papers. It is just one profile to fit all.

I tried using 'Export Book to PDF' in the LR Book module with 'Book' set to 'Blurb' and the PDF images are all tagged as sRGB profile and 8-bit color.
SUGGESTION
If you set 'Book' to 'PDF' under 'Book Setting' you can use Adobe RGB profile, 300 ppi, and your own Sharpening selection, which as Andrew Rodney mentioned is a better choice. You can submit the LR Exported PDF at Blurb's 'PDF To Book' upload page and they will do the proper CMYK conversion on their end. The only issue is that the images are still exported in the LR Book module as 8-bit color JPEGs. This may cause banding with a wider gamut profile, but that should be apparent when reviewing the exported book PDF.
Here are some comments from Blurb concerning using Blurbs 'PDF to Book' workflow, which is similar to what I just described:
From Me:
My Workflow Details:
My objective is to process all images in LR4 and then export them as 300 dpi, ProPhoto RGB profile, 16 bit TIFF images for layout in InDesign using Blurb's InDesign plugin (Blurb Book Creator CS6 v2.0.2.34d8). I will soft proof the placed images inside InDesign using its 'Proof Colors' tool and the Blurb_ICC_Profile.icc profile. Once the InDesign layout is complete I will do the RGB to CMYK Blurb_ICC_Profile conversion during the export to PDF process using the Blurb PDF X-3 Export Preset v1-1.
Blurb's Resonse:
Response Via Email(David) - 07/18/2012
Using InDesign and our Blurb InDesign Plug-in does mean you're using the PDF to Book Workflow. This is because your InDesign files will ultimately be exported/uploaded as PDF files.
Regarding, "Once the InDesign layout is complete I would like to do the RGB to CMYK Blurb_ICC_Profile conversion during the export to PDF process":
Unfortunately, there is no option for this and it's actually unnecessary during the export process. Our printers convert and process all images as CMYK using the Blurb ICC Color Profile, so even if you upload/export them with an RGB color profile, they'll be converted to CMYK for the production process.
My Response:
Customer By Email - 07/19/2012 05:10 AM Thanks for the explanation David. It sounds like I can just upload the PDF file using my ProPhoto RGB profiled PDF, but I would prefer to do the conversion from ProPhoto RGB to Blurb ICC CMYK profile. This way I can see the results before uploading the file to Blurb. Can I use the Blurb PDF X-3 Export Preset v1-1 with Output > Color Conversion to Destination > Blurb CC profile, and then upload the PDF file myself? If so please advise where I should upload the file on the Blurb website.
Blurb's Response:
Response Via Email(David) - 07/20/2012 03:49 PM Hi Todd,
If you do end up exporting your PDFs with the workflow you're referring to, you can upload your files here:
http://www.blurb.com/make/pdf_to_book
IMHO there's no reason why Adobe and Blurb couldn't work together so ProPhoto RGB 16-bit images can be used in the book PDF that gets uploaded (or exported!) to Blurb's website. Blurb then handles the CMYK conversion using full-gamut 16-bit images and not clipped sRGB 8-bit images.

PS CS5 Image Display Differs From Used ICC Profile In Win 7

Hi,
on my Windows 7 Ultimate x64 machine, I just calibrated my Dell SP2309W monitor using an i1DisplayPro and basICColor 5, creating a ICC v2 profile (I am aware of the problems under Windows with ICC v4 profiles).
It created the ICC profile and applied it to be used by Windows. I double checked under COLOR MANAGEMENT that the new ICC profile is being used. Although I can see that the new ICC is being used (desktop appearance changes), there are a few issues I am experiencing:
(1.) Windows Photo Viewer
The thumbnails in Windpows Explorer look fine (they DO use the new ICC profile), when I double click a jpeg and open the image it DOES NOT use the new ICC profile. When I click the PLAY SLIDESHOW button (starting the slideshow) in the opened image in Windows Photo Viewer, the images DO use the new ICC profile.
(2.) Internet Browsers
All current internet browser (Firefox, IE, Safari and Chrome) DO use the new ICC profile and display the image correctly.
(3.) Photoshop CS 5
When I open the same image - that Windows Photo Viewer does not correctly displays (according to the new ICC profile) - in Photoshop CS5, I get the same image display that Windows Photo Viewer gives me (when not thumbnail or not in slideshow mode) - it appears to be the sRGB display.
My color settings in PS CS5 are: North America General Purpose 2 > sRGB IEC 61966-2.1.
When I go to View > Proof Setup > Monitor RGB I get the image display using the new ICC profile.
Why does the image look different in PS than my calibrated monitor should output ?
I was under the impression (please correct me if I am wrong), that the sole purpose for calibrating my monitor was to get a uniform display across (ICC aware) applications. Even when one applies different color spaces to a document in PS, I thought the output on my calibrated screen done by the graphic card should always be according to my calibration and the settings in the ICC profile being used.
What Am I doing wrong or what am I misunderstanding ?
Any help or input is appreciated !
Thanks.
- M

Hello,
A note on monitor calibration: calibrating your monitor will not guarentee that every application will display color correctly, it's more of a step along the pipeline, and for the preview part of a color workflow it's the last step. Here's how color translation follows for an ICC workflow when previewing to a monitor:
Image Color Numbers > Document Tag or Workspace Profile > Monitor Profile
For non-color managed applications, if the original document is or isn't tagged with a color profile it will be translated directly to the monitor profile anyway. This is the equivalent in Photoshop of selecting "Monitor" in soft proofing. Selecting monitor in softproofing will bypass the tagged or workspace profile to translate colors directly through the monitor profile.
For most automatic color managed applications (like Firefox), the image will be translated through the tagged profile and then sent through the monitor profile. If the image is untagged or the profile is unrecognized, the colors get sent directly to the monitor profile.
For Photoshop, a tagged document will have its profile respected and then sent to the monitor. An untagged document will be assigned the workspace profile, which acts like a temporary document profile, and then gets sent to the monitor. This is often why users will notice Photoshop behaves differently from other applications. It's usually a case of the workspace coming into play. By default the workspace profile is set to sRGB. You can change this in Edit > Color Settings.
The purpose of the workspace is originally for printing workflows, as a way of keeping consistant color translations when dealing with both tagged and untagged documents. For web output workflows it can be useful for viewing everything through sRGB, which is typical of the average monitor output (not so with newer wide-gamut monitors, another source of confusion...) combined with the fact that originally most web browsers were not color managed. Hence viewing everything through sRGB is pretty close to what most monitors see and what untagged/unmanaged docs will look like.
Monitor calibration is useful only because it brings your monitor output to a "known state". In traditional workflows the monitor was always a middle-man, a preview device which was useful for getting an idea of what the printed output would look like before you print it. Since print colorspaces are often smaller than display spaces, it's feasible and useful to narrow down the monitor/display space and calibrate it to a known state, so that even if it doesn't totally match the print, you'll get used to its differences/limitations and they'll be consistent so long as the calibration is maintained.
For web output, your final output is often another user's computer monitor, which can have any form of behavior (most standard monitors are pretty close to sRGB, or use sRGB as an operating system workspace (default monitor profile). Wide gamuts behave differently, but I'm not sure if there's a particular ICC space that they closely match, or if different wide-gamuts are even that close to each other in their display color spaces.
Hope this helps!

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