Reprocess raw

Hi,
In iPhoto if i right click on a photo it gives me the option to reprocess raw, even when i have not modified the photo.
I also have auto rotation turned on in my camera and when i reprocess a portrait photo it goes into landscape, should I turn auto rotation off and rotate the photos manually. If i should, what is the best way to rotate them. I like the method of using folder action setup, but does it create duplicate photos (modified and unmodified)
Does preview create a duplicate when i use it to rotate photos
Thanks Joel

What version of iPhoto?
I believe that Auto-Rotate is pointless on a camera, and certainly if you're shooting Raw.
Regards
TD

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You cannot save a Raw. The work you do must be output to a new file, in a new format (jepg, tiff, whatever). However, as the External Editor is making this new file iPhoto has no knowledge of its existence. Therefore you *must save it to the desktop and then import it back to iPhoto as a new file*.
This means that you will have your Original Raw and the processed version in iPhoto but they will not be recognised as version and original. iPhoto will see them as two separate shots. Add that to your jpeg from the Raw and Jpeg shooting and now you'll have three versions of the shot...
Regards
TD

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Do you know how to access my RAW file? I can only seem to access the JPEG file.
Can anyone confirm that Photos is indeed importing both versions of RAW and JPEG?
Note: I do not choose to keep a copy locally on my Mac. My Macbook Air is always running out of space.
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Question:
Do you know how to access my RAW file? I can only seem to access the JPEG file.
Can anyone confirm that Photos is indeed importing both versions of RAW and JPEG?
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Next: In the iPhoto Preferences -> Advanced, elect to use Raw with your External editor:
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Now when you go to edit the Raw it will be sent to your external editor.
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You cannot save a Raw. The work you do must be output to a new file, in a new format (jepg, tiff, whatever). However, as the External Editor is making this new file iPhoto has no knowledge of its existence. Therefore you *must save it to the desktop and then import it back to iPhoto as a new file*.
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Regards
TD

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