Return Delivery by 161

Hi All,
I want to know the standard 161 - return delivery scenario, please explain.
I am doing in following way.
1) PO created with return indicator, taxes included as per original PO for which material has to be returned with same price
2) Chapter Id, cenvat determination entered in J1ID
3) GR created & excise captured and post( Is it correct to post excise at Gr-161? & what will be impact on excise register please explain)
4) Similarly account document created at the time of GR-161
5) During J1IS warning message appeared that already excise invoice exists.
6) J1IS saved and excise document is created message appeared
Please correct if any changes required to be done and if anything i am missing.
Regards,
Umesh

hi
check following process
If LIV and Payment to Vendor is done then
1. ME21N - Create a Returns PO (Activate "Returns" indicator for PO line item)
2. MIGO - Goods Receipt > Purchase Order (Returns PO) (Here system will hit Mvmt type "161" and you can also select Un-restricted/blocked stock from where you want to return the stock)
3. J1IS u2013 Excise Invoice Other Movements
Here click on u201Ccreateu201D button to create an outgoing excise invoice and reverse the CENVAT Amount.
Here put all details as below and Press u201CEnteru201D.
Ref.doc.type - MATD
Doc Number - Material document No of 161 mvmt
Doc Year
Series Group
Excise Group
Vendor
Here check BED, ECS and SECess values to be reversed and click on u201CSaveu201D button to post the excise invoice.
4. J1IV - Post and Print Outgoing Excise Invoice.
5. MIRO - Credit memo w.r.t. Returns PO.
regards
SAP Learner

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Ref.doc.type - MATD, Doc Number - Material document No of 161 mvmt, Doc Year, Series Group, Excise Group and Vendor
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>If LIV and Payment to Vendor is done then
1. ME21N - Create a Returns PO (Activate "Returns" indicator for PO line item)
2. MIGO - Goods Receipt > Purchase Order (Returns PO) (Here system will hit Mvmt type "161" and you can also select Un-restricted/blocked stock from where you want to return the stock)
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Here check BED, ECS and SECess values to be reversed and click on u201CSaveu201D button to post the excise invoice.
4. J1IV - Post and Print Outgoing Excise Invoice.
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Here click on u201Ccreateu201D button to create an outgoing excise invoice and reverse the CENVAT Amount.
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MR8M effectively cancels the invoice with a matching creidt memo (which will need to be cleared later).
However you can still (in most cases) use the 122 (or 102) movement to return the items even if the Invoice exists and has been paid. The vendor account will then show an open item awaiting the credit memo to be posted.
There is a setting in the MM config that controls this, it can be set to say "Return possible after Invoice receipt) this is not always flagged and some companies leave this flagged ON so that returns can't happen after invoices have been posted. It is up to your design team as to whether this flag should be set or not.
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