Ribbon not showing when form is opened

Question

I have a 2007 application.  In it I have create the Usys... table and created 3 ribbons.
1- Hide everything
2- Ribbon for my forms
3- Ribbon for my reports
I set my db option to startup with Ribbon 1, and this works.  I associated ribbon 2, in my form's properties "Robbon Name", but when the form open, the ribbon does not display?  Anyone have any ideas?
I can set any ribbon as my startup ribbon, they all appear to work.  The issue is that it won't switch to ribbon 2 when the form is opened.  When a report is opened however, ribbon 3 does appear.  Why won't ribbon 2 appear when my form opens? 
I have validated my XML using the Custom UI Editor & all 3 ribbons validate (Custom UI XML is well formed!).
Now I know ribbon 3 works, but if I associate that ribbon to the form, it will not display either.  So it appear that it isn't because of the ribbon, but something else?
Another question while we are on the subject of ribbons.  I litterally copy/pasted ribbon 2  to create ribbon 3 and then edited it as required, but some tabs, groups,... have the same names between the ribbons, can this be an issue or since they
start for scratch = true, it will have no impact?
Thank you,
Question.Boy

Answer 1

Hi,
the two best sites (in my opinion) to learn about ribbons:
www.accessribbon.de
www.andypope.info
and indispensable:
http://soltechs.net/CustomUI/AllGal.asp
I use the technique of just one ribbon (one XML file) edited with notepad ++ and the invalidate method conjungate with Application.CurrentDb.Properties("ribbonXXX").Value  to change the tabs.
See the start of my xml (all I'vd learn so far...)
<customUI
xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2006/01/customui"
onLoad="XXX_onLoad">
<commands >
<command
enabled="false"
idMso="ApplicationOptionsDialog"/>
<command
enabled="false"
idMso="Help"/>
</commands >
<ribbon startFromScratch="true" >
<officeMenu>
<button idMso="FileOpenDatabase" visible="false" />
<button idMso="FileCloseDatabase" visible="false" />
<button idMso="FileNewDatabase" visible="false" />
<splitButton idMso="FileSaveAsMenuAccess" visible="false" />
</officeMenu>
<qat>
</qat>
<tabs >
<!-- _____________________________________________________________ TABS PARA APLICAÇÃO XXX -->
<tab
id="tb_XXX"
getLabel="CB_getLabel" getVisible="CB_getVisible">
<group
id="gp_FICHEIROS_XXX"
getLabel="CB_getLabel">
<button
id="btn_CRIAR_FICHEIRO_XXX"
getEnabled="CB_getEnabled" getImage="CB_getImage" getLabel="CB_getLabel"
getScreentip="CB_getScreentip" size="large" getSupertip="CB_getSupertip" onAction="CB_onAction"/>
</group >
</tab >
</tabs >
</ribbon >
</customUI >
then I have those subs CB_getEnabled, CB_getImage, CB_getScreentip in a module call AllCallbacks...
Read this just like an example or hints, not the best way to go. 
HTH
João