Rich Internet Applications

I was reading an article from Cameron O'Rourke in the latest Oracle Magazine and it seems that rich clients are returning to the arena as an alternative to the old and restrict HTML interface. Maybe Oracle Forms will have a second chance after all?

Hi,
the term "rich client" no longer only means Java based clients alone, but all clients that offer interactive user interfaces. This includes e.g. Macromedia Flash and Oracle UIX. The thin client world gracefully hijacked the term "rich client" for their own purpose to signal inprovements made during the last years.
The new Java Server Faces technology in J2EE - developed under the leadership of SUN - allows JSP based applications to be interactive like Oracle Forms or other Swing based applications in the Web.
What so far was missing in HTML based applications was the ability to response to events on a component level, similar to what Forms provides within its triggers.
I am positive that Forms does have its justification - even without a second chance - in todays application development landscape. Its the combination of developer productivity and application user / application interactivity that lets Forms shine.
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