Sales BOM question

I have an issue with Sales BOM's. When in Order Entry, I see 2 lines, the first line is the Saleable Item and the Second line is the Component Item(s). The person entering the Order accidently entered a quantity on the component line and then went back and put the correct Quantity to Order on the Saleable Item line. When the Order was invoiced, the Incorrect quantity, the quantity on the component line updated Inevntory. Is there a way to a) Either NOT display the component line on the Order Entry screen, or b) Lock the Component Quantity field from being entered? I checked the Check box on the BOM screen to NOT print the Component Item on the Marketing deocuments, but how can or is there a way to lock down then fields on the Component line?
Thanks in advance!!
Dana

Just came across this old topic. I think the answer to question A) ["Is there a way to a) Either NOT display the component line on the Order Entry screen..."] can be found in transaction VOV8 for the sales document-type involved: field "Display Range" has value "UALL" for standard order type "OR", which means it will show all items, including sub-items.
When changing this to value "UHAU" you should only see the main BOM item, not the derived components from the explosion.
(Allowed field values are:
- UALL    All items
- UHAU    Main items
- UMAR    Selected items)
SAP Documentation on this customizing field (TVAK-UMFNG):
Display Range
Specifies the kinds of items that the system automatically displays during document processing.
Use
You can specify, for example, that the system displays only main items and that it suppresses those items that are dependent on others. In this case, you can still enter dependent items in the document. However, the system does not display them.

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Hi Somnath / Ritesh,
Are you sure about ciffing Sales BOM(usage 5)to APO as PDS ? Did you test it or your comments are based on SAP documentation?
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I think system does not allow you to create production version with BOM usage 5.
I also tried with BOM usage 2. In this case also it behaves like sales BOM.
looks like only production BOM can be ciffed with proper BOM structure in APO.
if required i can send you the link to share screen shots.
Pls comment..
regards,
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Background:
Our business was recently acquired, and we have migrated to the parent company's R/3 system. In our previous MRP system (R/2), we planned, produced, and shipped a single bulk Material ID in Trucks, Rail Cars, Flexi-Bags, and Iso-Tainers. In the new system, specific Material IDs are now required for each of these modes. However, we do not store the inventory in these modes, nor do we wish to plan at this detailed level.
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Many Thanks in Advance,
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Hello JP
Material Determination (MD) works with Consignment orders, only you need to assign a MD procedure to the requisite sales document type in config ( TO code OV14). Product substitution, which is a specialized form of MD, makes use of special item cats like TAX and TAPS or TAPA and TAN for main and substitute items respectively, but you can always make copies of them and use them with consignment orders also in conjunction with item category usages like PSHP. PSEL, PSA1 and PSA2. There could be resultant issues, but unless you test you won't know them all.
Your second question about 'Sale would go against the finished good (Truck / Rail material) while the production costs go against the Bulk', brought a new realization in me. You are ordering, pricing and delivering Truck or Rail materials, but those requirements have to be converted to Production orders for bulk material, so from a Sales and Distribution (SD) point of view you don't need anything extra, therefore work with you Production Planning (PP) consultant to convert the requirements at PP end?? May be without resorting to MD or BOMs in Sales, you can work with your PP consultant and with standard config or custom development, you may realize your desired outcome.
Also as long as cost is maintained in the sales Material (Truck for example) with due regard to the additional costs in converting Bulk to truck, you should be fine. Follow the example below:
Standard cost of 1 ton , say X, is stored in Bulk Material master.
Now if there is no additional cost and you just load the bulk material into a truck and if a Truck is 10 ton, then Truck material would have 10X in its material master for cost.
But if there is some other material and/or labor involved in converting bulk to Truck and their cost is y, then you will have (10x+y) in your truck material. Also it is worthwhile to capture the additional cost in the Production/Assembly order via components and operations.
Your problem is not insurmountable, but you need to assemble a team of SD. PP, MM and CO experts to design an integrated solution for you.

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Hello gurus,
I'm very new for sales BOM and have one questions.
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because we will sell material B free of charge.
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Hi Azam,
It seems to me that you want to use Delivery Group for Sales BOM where If Mat A = Mat B + Mat C and Mat B Availability date is 20/07/2014 (DD/MM/YYYY) and Mat C availability is 25/07/2014 then Main line item should be confirmed with 25/07/2014.
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If this is the requirement then, In Item Category (VOV7) for main Item update Create Delivery Group field with X and your requirement will be fulfilled.
Do let us know the result after testing.
Regards,
MJ.

SALES BOM - request facility to add to purchase order

It would be of great marketing advantage if we could change the load a "sales BOM" to a pucrhase order either directly or indirectly (based on sales order).
Regards
Jeff Patch

Ciao Elisa,
If PO item was delete, system will update the PO qty in PR statistics with ZERO. And appear information to advise this item has been opened. But 'Processing stat' will still keep 'B' - Ordered.
For your reference, please also kindly review the note 493315
FAQ: Purchase requisition (general) -> question 1
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1. You delete a purchase order item with reference to the purchase requisition. Why is the last purchase order in the purchase requisition not reset and why is processing status "B" not changed?
Answer:
See Note 65839.
"This is actually not an error. This is because checks for whether a purchase requisition has already been completed are always made on the basis of the quantity ordered. The processing status and the last purchase order are not used in this case.
Thus the processing status and the last purchase order are not reset, since it very often occurs that purchase requisitions are completed via several purchase orders - that is, they are partially ordered several times. In this case, it would even be completely incorrect to reset the status when deleting the last purchase order item, since the previous purchase order can still exist.
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Referencing Sales BOM on Contracts

Hi All,
I have tried searching but have not found many specifics to answer my question. We wish to create quantity contracts for sales BOMs which have pricing at the "parent" item and we pick and ship the "child" items. I have assigned the same item categories we use on sales orders, ZTAH (parent) and ZTAC (child), to the contract order type.
I have entered the BOM on the contract and it explodes and prices per usual. I am able to reference the contract when creating an order for the BOM, such that each line on the order contains the contract document in the referenced field. However, the BOM on the sales order does not decrement the contract quantity for the "child" items. I have compared the item category configuration and copy control between ZTAH, ZTAC, and the standard BOM item categories, and don't see what the problem could be.
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dear friend,
please run t-code VTAA for your contract/order types
and have a look at item details - do you have 'A' in "Copy quantity" field?
i also recommend to test the fileds "Cont.item copy made" and "Copy product select" (if still doesn't help)
good luck!
p.s. in the item category configuration do you have any settings regarding the Bill of Material?

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Hi
Does anybody knows if a Sales BOM can work just onyl in a specific sales organization?
Regards

Thanks
What I´ askng is how to assign a Sales BOM to a sales area, which is the transaction for doing it as I jut know Cs01 ad works at plant level.
Question is that for the same material, I would like to work with Sales BOM in one sales organiation and not to work with Sales BOM in another sales organzation
Regards

Rules-based GATP with sales BOM

Hi,
with reference to the following thread which asks the same question, but although in "answered" status, actually contains no answer to the final question...
GATP Question
We are investigating the possibility of using GATP with rules-based ATP to propose a sourcing plant. The result of this is of course a subitem in the sales order.
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I cannot find what I recall to be the explicit SAP-help statement in this respect. Anybody with experience in this?
Regards,
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The current situation is as follows:
We have the saleable product A in plants X and Y, with a sales BOM in each of the plants, for the packaging items B and C. When product A is entered in the sales order in, say, plant X, the sales BOM is exploded and items B and C are inserted into the sales order. ATP is done in R/3, and if there is no availability in X, then the plant can be manually changed to Y, but each of the subitems from the sales BOM must also be manually changed to Y.
Desired to be situation:
We implement GATP, with a rule to subsitute plant X with plant Y in the event that plant X has no stock. So the desired system response is: enter item A in the sales order with plant X, GATP subsitutes plant X with plant Y and generates a subitem for product A in plant Y. Now the sales BOM is exploded for the new subitem, generating the further subitems for B and C, also in plant Y.
Is this possible?

Sales BOM per customer

This might be a strange question but still. We have a customer who ships out pallets and crates to their customers. They want to be able to track these items of course and bill the customers according to the number of items they received. N.B. these items are not returned so returnable packaging is out of the question.
We are looking at the use of a sales BOM so we can calculate the number of pallets and crates per sales order and delivery based on the number of finished products they ship out and of course create an invoice where these items are listed as part of the delivery with the actual costs. This works quite satisfactory BUT it will only work when either all customers use the sales BOM or all customers do not use the sales BOM.
What's the problem, as this is a new process, they will not be able to convince all customers to directly pay for pallets and crates that are being shipped out. We are now facing the problem that for part of the customers they want to use a sales BOM and invoice them for the pallets and crates they receive BUT for part of the customers they do not want to invoice them for the pallets and crates they receive. This means that we are looking for a way where we can indicate, per customer, whether to use a sales BOM (ship out and invoice pallets and crates) or not to use a sales BOM (do not logically ship out and invoice pallets and crates).
Is this possible yes or no? Maybe with a user exit that checks for a specific field in the customer master? We have already defined two sales BOM's per material, one where pallets and crates are used and one without pallets and crates so we could mis-use the alternative sales BOM principle, but we still need a trigger to call either sales BOM.
Any help would be appreciated.

Hi Roberto and Biju,
We looked at both options but neither are workable. Not all warehouses use HUM because not all warehouses are their own warehouses, some are from logistics service providers who have not SAP access, otherwise the problem would be a bit easier, plus the customer does not use packing and will not use packing in the future.
The dynamic product proposal was a bit more promising but also there, we encounter a problem because we cannot make a calculation on the number of crates and pallets shipped out to a customer, which is one of the requirements.
The problem still lies in the fact that
- Customer A does not want a bill for crates and pallets and therefore does not want to see the items on the delivery and the invoice.
- Customer B does want a bill for crates and pallets and therefore needs a calculation for the number of pallets and crates he received.
We cannot set a field somewhere that says customer A without these items, customer B with these items and then trigger something else.
Thanks for the help but we still haven't solved the problem.

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Thanks
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Question is that for the same material, I would like to work with Sales BOM in one sales organiation and not to work with Sales BOM in another sales organzation
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Sales BOM in CRM

Hello experts,
We would like to have sales BOM (single level) in CRM internet sales. What are the limitations in CRM if we use a sales BOM.
When we create a order with reference to an existing sales order in ERP, how does the system behave?
Also when we refer the existing order can we make one of the component quantity as 0 and save to create another order in ERP?
Thanks,
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Hi
Question - We would like to have sales BOM (single level) in CRM internet sales. What are the limitations in CRM if we use a sales BOM.?
1.Single plant BOM download are supported.
2.Ideally you should put a filter to restrict the download to a single plant.
3.We don't recognize the plant data in CRM therefore having BOM data from more than one plant in CRM does not make sense.
4.If no filter is set, the plant for the first BOM that gets downloaded is set as the default plant. For example, lets assume that the BOM for plant 1000 was downloaded first, this has become your default plant.
5.All the consecutive boms will not be downloaded if their respective plants does not match the default plant.
Question - When we create a order with reference to an existing sales order in ERP, how does the system behave?
>> In case of BoM, system allows you to create order as a standars and all the material, pricing data is get copied.
Hope this will help.
Regards

Sales BOM: Quantity correlation for deliv.group 001

When creating a delivery for a sales BOM material assigned to delivery group, I'm getting a partial quantity.
Example is sales BOM material A requires 4 EA of subitem B. Order created for 1 EA of material A, which requires 4 EA subitem B but there are only 2 EA of B in stock. The corresponding delivery is created with a quantity of .5 for material A. I get the following message in the delivery log:
"Quantity correlation for deliv.group 001 from sls.order 0004831194 for deliv.item 000010"
I'm expecting the quantity to be 1 on the sales order. Any help is appreciated.

Hi,
I guess not. Obviously, if you don't have enough to deliver in full, then you can do one of the two; either deliver less (in this case half), or deliver none (maybe you can't deliver half because it is impossible).
Here's something from the online documentation:
Correlating Delivery Groups
Items in delivery groups can be combined in the sales order to synchronize their delivery. You will receive a warning message when creating a delivery for a sales order if all items belonging to such a group cannot be delivered. If you then create deliveries using a delivery due list, all orders whose delivery groups cannot be completely delivered will be ignored in this process. In this case, the log supplies all appropriate information. If the delivery quantity is changed or if such an item is deleted in a delivery item belonging to a delivery group, you will receive a warning message. For further information on delivery groups, refer to Combining Sales Document Items for Delivery.
In addition, the system will carry out a quantity correlation for groups of items when they are classified together by one of the following requirements:
the items belong to a common delivery group
the items have a bill of material structure
If the order structure arose from a bill of material explosion, the relations in quantity of the items is based on component quantity. If this is not the case, it is based on the relation of the order quantities. The system does not correlate items classified as having fixed quantities.
When creating deliveries, the system automatically carries out a quantity correlation. If you change a higher level itemu2019s quantity, the quantities in the dependent items will be adjusted on all levels if necessary. When you change a dependent itemu2019s quantity, the system generates a warning message. When you delete a higher level item, all subordinate items are deleted as well. When you delete a dependent item, the system generates a warning message. If the dependent item contains a quantity to correlate and is the main item of a batch split, you receive a note. You must decide manually for which batches the quantity change is to take place.
The question really is, from a business point of view, in your example what would you like to do? Deliver 1 A or none?
Regards,
Mario

Sales BOM and BOM

Hi All,
I was hoping someone could give me some information about Sales BOM and BOM. How do they affect FI and or CO. If anyone has any links or documents that i read about them id really appreciate them too.
Thanks in advance,
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Noman plesae read below from a previous thread
Points will be appreciated
Routing should define the production process, how to build the product from the BOM, so it is normal to have a routing having one or more operations each of which is assigned to a work center. Each workcenter can be assigned to a cost center and may have different types of activities that can be performed, each of which might have a different price at that cost center. This is how the routing, and hence the production order that has the routing will be costed when work is confirmed at the workcenter level, for the value added.
Material costs can be costed per BOM (target) and based on actual consumption (actual cost). Apart from these, it is possible to have overheads defined too.
Normally you should have a routing for the cost estimate with quantity structure. You can define one single dummy routing and assign it to any number of products, if you don't need it for any real work tracking (in case of a simple manufacturing process like kitting). That would significantly reduce your master data maintenance efforts.
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Re: Bom and Routing
Posted: Mar 9, 2007 8:19 AM    in response to: Zaid M. Azam       Reply
Hi,
Basically As you are aware BOM contains child parts of the parent material.
Routing defines how you are going to produce. ie operations,
If routing has say 3 operation steps you will define in the operation details where u will produce (work center) and time taken for each operation. Also you can maintain tools(PRT) for those operation and inspection datas(inspection time).
Next details in work center(which you are assigning in operation.In work center you will maintain the link between activity type and cost center. Activity type is for example labour hour. In costing KP26 transaction a link will be established for activity type and cost center and corresponding cost.
If you are using work center X having activity cost as 100 Rs/Hour. The system will calculate depending upon the time mentioned while confimation the cost.
Hope this will help how routing,BOM and cost are linked.
Please award points if this is really helpful
Regards
Ranga

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Good morning,
It i difficult to write my question because I use italian Sap version and I have all fields names in Italian, so I hope that my translation is correct.
I have i.e. item 1, item 2 and item 3 with a well defined price. When a customer want to buy all three items togheter I want to apply a lower price, so I added a sales BOM (called i.e. item "Parent A") with all the three items above and with a my defined lower price.
But here start my problem: when the CRM operator in sales docum. add the item Parent A, the price is Ok, he has no possibility to remove the items 1 or 2 or 3 - and it is a good thing- but he has the possibility to modify the final quantities of each items 1 or 2 or 3 but the Parent price remain always the same!!!, So he can sell a big quantities of items 1 or 2 or 3 at the price of one item Parent A.
Is it possible to avoid that? Is it possible to block the possibility to modify the quantity of the sub-items list of item Parent A? or is it possible to apply an alert or an approval procedure every time this bad operation is done?
Many thanks for your help.

Hi,
Sales BOM may not be the right tool to use for your purpose. Have you tried Special Price function?
Thanks,
Gordon

Problem adding a sales bom to an invoice

Hi
I am trying to add a sales bom to an invoice, which I can add ok but I can't seem to access the components of the bom
I have logged this with SAP and they said I should post a request on this forum
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Regards Andy

K.. I see what you mean now.
The best place to ask this question is in the SDK forum (link below)
SAP Business One SDK
They will definitely be able to help you out there! Don't worry, you definitely won't get redirected to another forum from there!!! =)
As an end user have only used the DTW (where you have to enter all components etc), so can't be of any help.
Edited by: Rajiv Agarwalla on May 9, 2008 1:06 AM

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