Sales return-excise duties
Dear all,
while getting back the material from the customer(sales return), my client wants all the excise duties to get updated in the input accounts so that he can claim the duties from the government just like cenvat input accounts.
Can anyone tell me how to do the above scenario?
Now am doing in j1ih cancellation. and if i do that, the entry is coming in the following way:
Cenvat payable a/c dr
to cenvat suspense a/c cr
The client wants it in the following way
cenvat input a/c dr
to cenvat suspense a/c cr
Please suggest.
I will award full points.
Thanks & Regards,
AR
Hi,
As per excise rules, when there is any sales return then the excise on the returned goods is not entered in the normal Cenvat Input a/c but separately in Excise on Goods Returned A/c. Later when the material is re-sold, then the excise is credited from this Excise on Goods Returned account. It should not be debited to the normal Cenvat Input account.
Regards,
Saurabh Agarwal
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Sales return - Excise invoice from depot
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We are having a sales return scenario in depot which we are executing in following way.
1) Return sales order 2) Delivery against sales order 3) PGR 4) Credit memo 5) Capture of excise invoice in J1IG against the material document posted in PGR with reference to original excise invoice.
But when we are again creating an outgoing excises invoice from depot i.e. re-selling the same material to other customer system does not show the excise invoice in list of inward invoice.
Request to please let us know if we have missed out on a step/ configuration to ensure that the customer return excise invoice is visible to re-sell the material from depot.
thanks & regards,
maheshDear Lakshmipathi,
Thanks for the reply, did go through the thread that you have suggested before i posted this one.
Just wanted to know that we update the register with material document number posted for transfer of material from one storage location to another which is customer return to finished storage location and not with the PGR material document number?
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Dear expert,
We are testing the "Customer sales Return" scenario for one of our client. Our process is,
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Then we tried to create the excise Invoice using Transaction J1IIN. But we are getting the error message as
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Warm Regards,
NagDear Experts,
Thanks for your quick response.
Yes, already we maintained the billing relevance field in item category maintained as "A" & Copy contorl in VTFL also. Due to this we can able to create the "credit Note" in Transaction VF01. But during excise Invoice creation only we are facing the above mentioned issue.
Feedback for the response from SDL:-
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Warm Regards,
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Excise duty credit in custmore sales return
Hi Experts
When we receive the sale return from customer we follow the below process.
Create sales order with order type sales return
Create return delivery. It create stock for return material.
VF01 Accounting entry pass in customer account.
J1IH for cenvat credit.
My question is that can we take this cenvat with reference to VF01 document or any other document. I don't want to do J1IH. I I get cenvat by J1IH it show excise invoice due list.
Regards
ParkashHi Parkash,
Please go through the below links there are lot of threads on sales returns excise capturing.
Go through the forum rules of engagement.
Excise duties not flowing while creating return excise invoice
SALES RETURN J1IH
Excise Returns
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Regards,
S.Himavanth. -
Excise duties not flowing while creating return excise invoice
Hi friends ,
During sales return excise invoice creation ,excise duties are not determined automatically in J1IH. Is there any settings instead of entering the value manually in J1IH? I have searched the forum but only manual entries related results are posted.Is there any automatic determination?
Thanks in advance
BhuvanashreeDear Friend,
As per the SAP new package ETT RLFC has been introduced for Excise sales return. New tab "Return sales Excise" available in J1IH for post Return excise invoice automatically. .
We added ETT RLFC in table J_1ITRAN and did configuration for account determination for excise, this is helped us to post excise invoice for Sales return.
Please refer SAP Note: 1907900 - Error 8I-402 for return sales transaction(RLFC)- J1IH
In addition even after all the configuration of RLFC you are not able to post the Excise for return sales then this is due to confirmation of service in original delivery.
This is a typical case when you are using Batch managed material.
If this scenario arise implement SAP OSS note No: 1971904 which will resolve the issue.
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Ashish Kothari -
Sales Return Process in Excise
Hi,
Can any one explain me the Sales Return Process with Excise Details.
How to deal with excise when sales are return from customer.
Please explain me if customer returns complete material what will be the process.
In case if customer Returns partial quantity how to process
How will be the excise implications.
Can u please explain me the above 2 process.
Thanks.Please make a search in the forum as this question has been answered many times. Check some of those threads
[Excise return in Sales Return |Excise return in Sales Return]
[Sales return delivery process wtih Excise |Sales return delivery process wtih Excise]
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Customer Returns with Excise Duties.
Hi all,
Can any one explain the steps for Customer Returns with Excise Duties.
I have sold the Material to customer from Manufacturing Plat to customer.
Sales Orderm - VA01
Outbound delivery- VL01N
Pro forma - JEX
Excise Invoice - J1IIN
Invoice - VF01
Now customer wants to return the goods with the same Excise Invoice issued from Plant.
Return Order - VA01
Inbound Delivery - VL01N
Now what are the steps to capture the Excise Details..........?
We are using one more transaction (=/BEV1/SR0) here to keep the goods in to Unrestricted or Blocked stock and it will create Credit memo request automatically.
so please guide me is this step need to be done before Excise details are captured ?
It is very urgent to me. please send me the steps for the above mentioned scenario.
Thanking you.
Regards
Jayahi
create return order in VA01 with order type RE with reference to billing (assign order reason)
create delivery in VL01N and do PGR
go to VA02 and remove billing block
create billing document in VF01 with reference to return order.
DO EXCISE JV MAIN MENU IN T.CODE J1IH
SELECT ADDITIONAL EXCISE TAB
ENTER DELIVERY DOCUMENT NUMBER
SELECT DETAILS ICON IN THE EXTREEM LEFT OF THE APPLICATION TOOL BAR
ENTER MATERIAL NUMBER, QUANTITY AND EXCISE DUTY
SELECT DETERMINE G/L ACCOUNTS AND PRESS CONTINUE AND SAVE IT
EXTRACT RG23APART2 IN J2I5
IN PRINT RG23APART2 U CAN C THE OUTPUT
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Excise duty adjustment in case of customer sales return
Hi Frnds,
While my customer return the finished goods I am making sales return order ,done the PGR & make the credit note.
Now I want to adjust the excise duty through J1IH
In j1ih which option I have to choose <other adjustemnet> or <add. excise>
In Add. Excise tab. the Gl account detremine are :
C 0013113920 115.00 CENVAT clearing
D 0024822000 5.00 CENVAT Input SECess
D 0024820000 100.00 CENVAT Input BED
D 0024821000 10.00 CENVAT Input ECess
Whereas In case of Other adjustment tab GL account determine are
C 0024822000 5.00 CENVAT Input SECess
C 0024820000 100.00 CENVAT Input BED
C 0024821000 10.00 CENVAT Input ECess
D 0013113920 115.00 CENVAT clearing
Please suggest me which option is correct.......Other adj or Add excise tab.
In my opinion it should be Add. Excise where Clearing account is credited.
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SunilPlease help me
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CIN - Excise created in case of sales return
Hi all,
After reading lot of post about argument in object, I have undertand that, in case of sales return, to create excise invoice I have to do:
T.Code J1IH and do the following:-
Customer Credit
Choose the 'Additional Excise' input the original excise invoice reference, document year, company code, plant and excise group and execute. There input manually what value you need to give credit and save.
Cenvat Debit
Choose 'Other Adjustments' and here also, maintain the datas whatever you input as above and save.
Is correct, If I have a return referred to an invoice with BED, CESS and S&HCess, to use "Additional Excise" (RG23A) to insert BED and S&HCess and "Other Adjustments" (PLA) for CESS? this means 2 excise documents to rectify excise amounts in case of return.
Thanks in advance for every contribution to clarify this dubt.
Gianpaolo"Additional Excise" subscreen is for differential excise posting, ie, in case you made any mistakake in ED Calculation or excise invoice. In order to correct that, we use that.
Rgds
Sumanth.G
Consultant/Systems Analyst - SAP SD/MM -
Excise Entries in case of sales return
Dear sap mites
Can any one guide me during sales return how excise gets reversed as we would have already paid to the govt during sales how do we take input credit back
please do explain with GL account entries and an example if possible will be very grateful to you
Its of high priority as i have a presentation in front of my clientIdeal way of Excise Entries incase of return may not be cancelling Excise Invoice through J1IIN, as it may be possible that through Excise Invoice, say 10 Quantity was despatched & Return is only 2 quantity.
The Option widely used is as under:
Incase of Return Sales Order:
T.Code for copy control: VTAF
Source Document: F2
Target Document: RE
Item category REN
Considering the above settings are done:
Create return sales order RE (with Reference to Billing Document) & the data will be copied as it is in Return Sales Order - RE. For Eg: here you require to change to quantity from 10 to 2, as you want to take back into Inventory of only 2.
Incase of Return Delivery:
T.Code for copy control: VTLA
Source Document: RE
Target Document: LR
Item category REN
Considering the above settings are done:
Create Return Delivery through T.Code VL01N & do PGR (Post Goods Receipt). This will add the stock to blocked stock. This will take care of Inventory.
To address the issue of how to take Credit for Excise, use T.Code: J1IH --> other Adjustment & based on the credit to be taken, make the necessary entry.
Incase of Credit Memo:
T.Code for copy control: VTFA
Source Document: RE
Target Document: Credit Memo
Item category G2N (Check in System)
First in VA02, remove the Billing Block in Return Sales Order - RE & save the document. Now in T.Code: VF01, enter Return Sales Order Number & select the appropriate Billing Type (Credit Memo) & Enter& Save. This will create Credit Memo.
Hope this helps you.
Regards,
Rajesh Banka
Reward suitable points. -
Sales Returns for Excisable Finished Stock
Dear All,
I have read a post below with regards to sales returns for finished stock which updates RG1 register, as I understand RG1 register is a quantity register, and the movement types define the sales returns qty wise, However I have the following queries
If I send 10 qty of material to my customer the same is captured through my normal sales scenario where I create an outgoing excise invoice, however if the customer sends 3qtys back then I create Return Sales Order, Return Inbound Delivery and a Credit Memo, however from an excise point of view I need to use the t-code J1IH as suggested in the below post and click on additional excise and give the required details. However at the bottom there is a radio button tab RG23 A and RG23 C where in the system by default it is selected as RG23A.
My question is I will input an outgoing excise invoice where I need to give partial credit for the part qtys which the customer has returned and if I do click on RG23A tab( Since there is Radio Button) does it have any impact on the register RG23A value wise, as per my understanding RG23A is used from a purchase point of view for raw materials and RG23C is for purchase finished product and why is there no Radio Button indicating RG1 and it does have any impact on other register as well.
Customer Returns for Excisable Finished materials RG1 registers update
Kind Regards
Atul Keshav
Edited by: Gojolly99 on Jul 10, 2011 8:21 AM
Edited by: Gojolly99 on Jul 10, 2011 8:38 AMDear Siddhartha,
This functionality was available in standard it self, Chose order type RE, Configure Delivery (PGR) and billing documents for the order type. It will reversal automatically the excise and sales etc..
In sales, customer will get debit and sales will get credit, so once you can take return this will get reverse including excise, sales and cst / vat.
if it is use ful reward me
Reg
Eswar -
Sales Return of Excisable Items
Hi All,
How do we post sales return for an excisable item, where Delivery, Outgoing Excise Invoice, A/R Invoice, all three have been created?
When we post a Sales Return, it shows a message to create an Incoming Excise Invoice. But does not allow to create a Incoming Excise Invoice, says that IEI can not be created on the base of this document.
The credit memo also could not be created as it ask for creating an IEI first.
Regards
Rahul JainHi Rahul,
If you posted AR invoice return should be only done
thru AR credit memo and you need to mention
outgoing excise invoice reference no.in Excise Ref. # of
Accounting TAB of A/R credit memo before adding credit memo.
Incoming excise invoice will be created automatically.
Hope above answer will solve your problem.
Jeyakanthan -
Hi All
During sales return process how to reverse the excise duty as well as sales tax. i understand that we do Excise return in J1IH transaction code. still i want to know with reference to which excise number we do return process.
Thanks in advanceIn case customer returns the partial goods how to reverse the partial excise invoice.I hope it is not possible in J1iH.Could you please explanin or else any other method is there?
Is there any transaction code to check the available excise stock?
Regards..,
Karthik -
Dear SD gurus,
Can you please tell me, during sales return with Excise in J1IH, which process need to be selected.
Either "Other adjustments" or cancel "excise invoice".
regards,
KumarDear Kumar
For updation of excise related sales returns, run T.Code J1IH and do the following:-
Customer Credit
Choose the Additional excise input the original excise invoice reference, document year, company code, plant and excise group and execute. There input manually what value you need to give credit and save.
Cenvat Debit
Choose Other Adjustment and here also, maintain the datas whatever you input as above and save.
thanks
G. Lakshmipathi -
Excise (sales return) scenario PLEASE HELP
Hi All
We have a scenario, form our factory (exciseable) plant we have transfered the goods to our shop ( non Excise). And sold the material at VAT.
Under sales replacement Policy we have taken the sales return at shop.
Now we have to transfer the material to factory and take the CENVAT credit.
How can we do the excise entry at the time of goods recipt the factory
PLEASE HELP
With Reagrds
Niti NarayanUse J1IEX transaction and use the EWPO transaction type to capture the transaction. Also please remember that EWPO accepts only Goods receipt via MM process and not SD process in the Standard scenario so please ensure that it is allowed for other types as well. Any ABApper should be able to help you on this. There is a SAP note on this so please check it out as well.
regards
Jude
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