Sample Editor-view amplitude as...

Show the volume as...
Two choices: "percentage" and "sample value".
How about DECIBELS ?
*This sample's volume is 64%* doesn't tell me anything.
*This sample's volume is 32765 samples* doesn't tell me anything.
*This sample's volume is -6db* tells me its volume.

*This sample's volume is 64%* doesn't tell me anything.
*This sample's volume is 32765 samples* doesn't tell me anything.
Really? These are the two ways most audio editors use, to give ampitude info. Because these are absolute values of the file itself. And they are prety straightforward. If you want dB's, use your meters. Make an audio file with a 100 % amplitude Sine wave, make two copies of that and lower the gain to 50 and 25 % respectively. Or make those levels within the same file. Just watch your meters (pre-fader) and you'll see what it means soon.
It does tell me all I need to know. And its' no rocket science.
And by the way, the samples' volume is not measured in samples, but in bits. A sample is a unit of time , not of magnitude.

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When you ask are you using the local cycle in the Sample Editor, yes?
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