SAN for ocr and vote file  for Linux RAC

Hi Experts,
Based on Oracle document, i have to create 2 devices for the OCR and 3 for the VOTE in RAC.
However, my boss think SAN maybe mirroe OCR and Vote file. It is enough for 1 location in SAN storage. It does not matter how many driver sidplay for user.
Actually it is only one SAN in back side.
Any Explain for OCR/VOTE file in SAN?
Thnaks
JIm

The idea to have these multiplex copy is to reduce the single point of failure, non the less, that's reason you build RAC in the first place isn't?
So if it's possible you'd better have redundancy on physical disk level (LUN etc) then logic level (volume, partition etc) then file level.
Well I agree modern SAN are pretty reliable and had built in redundancy on physical and logic level, but if you only have single vote disk and OCR, your RAC is going to fail right away when vote disk and OCR has problem. The chances are if your OCR and Vote disk has logical corruption, the corruption is going to populated to your mirrors. Even if your mirror is good you still need to get mirror copy to replace working copy and restart cluster during the time your RAC is offline.
With more than one OCR and voting disk, your RAC is likely to survive single OCR/vote disk failure, so you can fix the problem while RAC online.

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  • *UPDATED 7/15/04* Complete guide to bioses, drivers, and needed files for the MSI K8N Neo Platinum

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    Leaked Nvidia nForce3 Chipset Drivers Version 4.40
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    Quote
    Originally posted by RLiu818
    Quote
    Originally posted by Deviation56
    Quote
    Originally posted by RLiu818
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