SAP 2007A BOM Components, Standard Cost
On the BOM window, I don't understand why Standard Cost was removed from the choices on the Price drop down list for components. Are my clients the exception? On BOMs, they are more concerned about purchase costs on than selling prices.
How can I get my Standard Cost to appear on the BOM rows in 2007?
TIA.
-Cindy Lange
Edited by: Paul Finneran on Jan 17, 2008 3:20 PM
Your logic is unassailable. I wish SBO used it, but I can almost justify to myself why it does not.
If you look at a BOM, you'll see that all the line items reference Price Lists, not costs. Theres no cost for the components. What I did for a client that uses Standard Cost was create a price list for each of their warehouses and populated it with the standard cost for each item in that warehouse. So the cost rollup for the BOM itself was the sum of the standard cost price list * quantity for the items.
I dont know what one uses for FIFO, etc. Id be curious to hear how others handle this.
My lame justification as to why SBO doesnt show the cost is the same as why you dont know the cost or profit margin by looking at a sales order. On a BOM or a sales order, the cost is theoretical. True cost for a BOM isnt known until goods are issued.
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