SAP Note 209864 - Moving average price is disproportionately large

Dear All,
We are having problems similar to what are described in the SAP Note 209864.
We run the example as decribed in the note on our development server and got the same results. Then, we run the tractsaction OMC0 to set the tolerance upper and lower limits to 10% for the moving average variance and run the example again but still got the same result. We do not know why.
In our production environment, some purchased materials may be returned to our warehouse from produciton after their stock quantities reach zero (and therefore their total stock values as well). If in the time between the material reaches zero stock value and any left over materials are returned to the warehouse, there are good receipts from our suppliers for those materials and the prices are much different from the original moving average prices (e.g. replacement parts that are free of charge). The value of the subsequent materials returned from the production to the warehouse will be valuated incorrectly.
We would like to control the vairance to a pre-defined percentage, e.g. 10-20%.
Please help.
Best regards,
Nelson

Dear,
Please refer the below SAP notes
SAP Note 356757-MR01, MR1M, MIRO: M8783 when posting invoices
SAP Note 753286 - Moving average price becomes very small
Regards,
Gopala.S

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Moving average price calculation logic of material with Price Control "S"

Dear Gurus,
As you know that there is a Moving price and standard price icon in the material master.
I want to understand the calculation logic of the moving average price of the materials having price control "S"
How the system calculates the MAP for standard price materials? The receipt from the process order I suppose is valuated at the process order cost after settlement, but if the issue has hapened for the material does the system recalculate the issue price also?
Below is the sample process order receipt and issue scenario:
Receipt from process order 161000000223
300 kg and GR at standard cost value is Rs 5892
Issue to process order 162000000294
250 kg and GI at standard cost value is Rs 4910.
Thus the balance at period end is 50 kg and balance at standard cost value is Rs 982.
Here in process order 161000000223 the actual cost is 10 Rs. Then how will the system calculate the MAP?
Thanking You,
Amit Dhanurdhari

Hi
Try the following calculations,
One of them will work depending upon your version and support pack
Expected MAP calculation ( As with price control V)
= ((Qty before transaction*MAP + Transaction Qty * transaction
Price)) / quantity after transaction
New Method ( when price control is S)
= Old MAP + (Price Variance w.r.t Standard Price/Qty after transaction)
Also go through the following notes,
Note 1225167
1253944
518485 FAQ: Valuation of goods movements
212286 Overview note: Valuation during goods movements
209864 Moving average price is disproportionately large
202166 Collective note: Statistical moving average price
185961 Moving Average Price Calculation
I have done extensive research on this, let me know if you need to know something specific.

Unexpected change in moving average price

Hello All,
As per my understanding, the material moving average price will only be changed when there are any new receiving with different material price. However, the situation for this material average price is not as what I expected, it has unexpectedly rise for two days and then again became normal.
I have checked and found that only 261 movement was carried out.
I have also checked in invoice, but nothing is wrong in that.
Kindly guide me on the same.
Regards,
Joginder

Hi Joginder,
The MAP is recalculated at every relevant movement & invoice. Please
review the following notes which explain how the MAP is calculated and
what can change the MAP.
518485 FAQ: Valuation of goods movements
518368 FAQ: Valuation for the purchase order
209864 Moving average price is disproportionately large
185961 Moving Average Price Calculation
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Kevin

Import material moving average price is showing negitive.

Dear GURUS
I have aproblem in Import material moving average price problem
My user put the amount 10000 EUROS instead of 10000 INR in P.O ,
I am getting the below mentioned error.
Moving average price for material is negative: 2428014263 1100 SPR_IMP
Message no. M8783
Diagnosis
     This item would create a stock value posting which would result in a
     negative moving average price for the material.
     Note:
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     Verification. This means that you can receive a message as an error
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The system does not allow a negative moving average price.
cedure
Check your entry in the field "Amount" and correct it if necessary.
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o   the posting history
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valuated goods receipts or incorrect price changes), before you can
carry out your posting.
If you wish to carry out a price change, the total stock of the material
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srinivas

Dear,
Please refer the below SAP notes
SAP Note 356757-MR01, MR1M, MIRO: M8783 when posting invoices
SAP Note 753286 - Moving average price becomes very small
Regards,
Gopala.S

VMI and moving average price

Dear all
Please help us.
We will use moving average price as stock evaluation.
Also, we manage all inventory is VMI stock.
Our business process is the following procedure.
1. We will increase consignment stock (VMI) without reference to purchase order.
2. We will input sales order and allocate it to VMI stock.
3. We will post goods issue, movement type 601-K.
As you know, accounting documents post GR/IR at this time. Unfortunately, SAP does not calculate moving average price (MAP) in material master. ie. moving average price is zero.
We would like to calculate moving average price because almost stock is VMI.
How do you customize SAP?
Best regards.

You have to add one more step to handle this scenario as per my knowledge
which is before you issue the stock using 601 K you have to take the stock in you own inventory and than issue using movement type 601 not 601 k.
As per the std SAP the 601 K M type will never update the value because that's not are stock
you can see the setting below
601     K     L                   2             VAX
601     K     L          WA03     2     GBB     VAX
601     K     L     E              2             VKA
601     K     L     E     WA03     2     GBB     VKA
601     K     L     P              2             VKA
601     K     L     P     WA03     2     GBB     VKA
601     K     L     V              2             VAY

Moving average price (average price)

Dear All,
Is there any standard report in SAP to have moving average price (average price) for single material and for specific period?
Please let me know the details.
Amit

Go to MB5B report give the period you want
and calculate MAP manually from fields Total value and Total Stock.
Regards
Krishna Mohan

Moving Average Price Updation

Hello Friends,
When we Purcahse materials for Project Stock "Q" during goods recepit the MAP is not getting Updated/Recalculated.Because of this when we do the planning for this material it takes the value in MM manually entered,it may be even Zero "0" price also.
How we can make the settings such that the MAP gets calculated for Project stock "Q" stock also.
Thanks,
RamananPV

Hi Ramanan,
'Q' stock materials constitute a separate stock segment, distinct from plant stock. This will not update moving average price of plant stock materials which are in a different segment. Hence when you create a PR in new project, prices are taken from the materil master at the plant level.
If you are making multiple procurement of the same material component for the same project segment, perhaps, you will see the updation in that stock segment.
Hope I have got your problem correctly and my understanding is ok.
Muraleedharan.R

Moving average price not calculated properly

Hi,
For a consumable material moving average price(MAP) is getting calculated wrongly.
There are 2 goods receipts taken in Jan'08 and Feb'08 at a unit price of 1250 and 1450 INR.
Then there are around 10 Goods issues for a cost centre, Mvt type 201 taken for next few months.
The MAP value has been calculated properly after the Goods issues.
Again there was a goods recipt in Oct'08 for 1275 INR.
The goods issue done in Nov'08 has created a problem and it has calculated wronlgy i.e. instead of Rs. 800, the system has calculated issue price as Rs.3500.
No value has been changed in MR21. No PO's has been created between these days.
Can anyone help us...??
Regards,
Ramya

Hi Ramya,
You have informed in your thread that "for a consumable material..", If a material is procured for direct consumption, the consumption accounts in Financial Accounting are posted when the goods receipt is entered . The total quantity and value of existing stocks of the material are not affected. There is no Goods Issue.
Now, if you procure the material for stock, then changes in Material Valuation due to goods receipts and invoice receipts are carried out automatically (ofcourse manually also) when the relevant transaction is posted.
The extent to which the stock value changes depends on the sequence in which the goods receipts and invoice receipts are posted. The SAP System allows for both possibilities:
- When goods are received before the invoice, the stipulations in the purchase order are used as the basis for posting.
- When the invoice is received before the goods, the details on the invoice are used as the basis for posting.
So, please look into the Invoices and the relevant GR/IR clearing account details. You may get a clue there.
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Moving Average Price and Total Stock not updated for MTO scenario

We are using MTO with planning strategy 20, individual collective indicator is 1 (individual requirement only) and price control is V for finished goods. We are facing the following problems after we perform GR of above FG from MFBF (Repetitive -run schedule header):
1)Total Stock field (LBKUM)in Accounting View 1 remain as blank but the sales order stock is appear in Stock Overview screen.
2)Moving average price does not updated after periodic settlement is carried out.
It seem that problem can only be resolved if we change the planing strategy to MTS (ex:40), appreciate that if any of you can provide the solution.
p/s: on ECC5 system.

Hi,
Good morning and greetings,
The standard SAP says as below
The Raw Materials should have MAP 'V' and the SFG and FG should have the price control as 'S' basically because the standard costing variant PPC1 uses the sequence of Standard Price as the first update at the time of price update and settlement.
I presume MFBF is used for Repetitive Manufacturing and not for MTO scenario...Repetitive Manfuacturing is MTS scenario...Goods receipt of production order is normally done through MB31.
If you still want to use the MAP for FG and SFG then you will have to change the costing variant appropriately to pick the MAP first at the time of goods receipt and settlement.
Please reward points if found useful.
Thanking you
With kindest regards
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Moving average price of subcontracted material not picked for Cost estimation

Hi Experts
I have the below scenario:
Finshed Product A has components B, C.
C is a subcontacted material and it has its own BOM with components D & E.
We are maintaining moving average price for the subcontracted material C, (because the subcontracter is adding X & Y in addtion to the components D and E, which are sent from us).
In the mateial maste of C, Procurement type is F and Spl. procurement type 30 are maintained.
When i do costing for the Finished product A, moving average price of C is not picked up (where as system calculates the std cost for C by adding the values of D & E and purchase info record price).
Is there any way to Calculate Price of A by using the mvg avg price of C.
I maintained the below valuation variant settings.
If i remove the spl. procurement type 30 in the material master of C, it picks up the mvg. avg price. but it affects the MRP planning of items D & E.
Please advice.
Thanks in advance.
Regards
Bala

Hi Big choi
Thanks for your response.
I understand.
1. if we maintain spl. procureent key 30, system calculates standard cost based on raw material and service charges.
2. If we don't maintain spl. proc key, it considers the material as purchased and picks the mvg avg price from material.
But, is there any way to pick the moving avg price from material master eventhough i maintained the spl. procurement type 30?
Thanks
Bala

SAP allows release of Standard Cost for Material with Moving Average Price

Hi
We set our Raw Material to use Moving Average Price (V) and price determination 2 (single level). And we activated material ledger.
During mass calculation of standard cost (CK40N), If user accidentally forgot to restrict the Raw Material for being included in calculation, the system calculate standard cost anyway, even though I set it as Moving Average Price. And user is able to release it too without any problem.
Why the system does not restrict it? By giving error maybe. Although as for now I can not find the wrong effect from releasing standard cost for MAP material, by your experience, is there any side effect that I should be aware of?
Thanks

CK40n is mass release of all materials. The release is not dependent on price indicator of the material in the master. It will calculate standard cost of all the materials.
Releasing standard cost estimate of raw materials does not have any side effect as long your calculation is based on moving average price.
Regards
Divraj

Moving Average Price does not get updated for Project Stock

Hello Experts
We have an Engineer-to-Order implementation for our client. Accordingly procurement is done per project. Each Project issues its PRs which are then converted to POs and recieved into Project Stock.
While assigning the material to the Network activity in Project (using material component) the system uses the price found in the material master (MAP or STD) as a planned cost appended to the project.
Problem:
while procuring the material, when we receive it into Project Stock (Mvt 101 Q + ) the Moving Average Price in the material master does not get updated. this way all newly created material master will never have a moving average price, thus whenever we try to assign them to the project we receive an error message (Cost for Material Component ###Mat.Num### cannot be determined.
Question:
How can I get the system to update moving average price (for all types of stock) based on procurement for project stock.???
Your help is kindly appreciated.

I'm sorry for the confusion
Case:
The T-code is CJ20N Project Builder in PS module
we are assigning material components to network activities under a certain WBS element in the project.
there is a function in the Project Builder to calculate the cost of a network. it uses the costing variant assigned to the network which is PS02 (We get the error here)
The costing variant has a valuation variant which lists a series of strategies to get the material price. Planned 1 if not then STD if not then MAP. (you can choose between many options via a drop down menu) you can choose 5 consequent options.
The MAP that the valuation variant is coded to get is the Plant Stock MAP -- Or the Project Stock MAP but only Per WBS element.
The MAP that the Actual postings update is the Project Stock MAP only Per WBS element.
This means that if you use a material component to purchase material 123 Acc.As. Q for WBS X for 10 $ then you try to assign a new material component with the same material 123 to WBS Y, the system will not get a MAP. because it's stored in QBEW per WBS element.
This way the system will never get the MAP right.
However, we don't always use project stock to procure for projects, for some requirements we can assign and use plant stock as well for Projects. that way we need the MAP from plant stock.
In the Valuation Variant you can use a User Exit Strategy. The user exit's name is COPCP005
My Suggestion is:
Use the User Exit COPCP005 to calculate the { Total value / the total quantity (MAP) from QBEW + Total value / total quantity (MAP) from MBEW } / 2
which is the MAP for both plant and project stock together, since that we are going to use both.
Q: Is this correct !?

Updation of Moving Average Price

Dear Experts,
My MM period is open for 2 months (i.e for July and August Now) . One of our raw material is Limestone.
From July 1st there were several Receipts and Issues of limestone in SAP.
In August 9th our survey team found that in our stock we have 25000 TON limestone excess. (Due to Callibiration error)
i.e If the current stock in system was 10000 TON the real Physical stock in storage was 10000 + 25000 TON.
We have created a Free of Cost PO for 25000 TON to account the excess quantity of Limestone in Stock.
MIGO Goods Receipt for the Free of Cost PO was done on 31.07.2011.
Because of the extra 25000 TON Free of Cost Limestone Receipt the Moving Average Price of the Material got Updated. (But only from 09-August-2011 not from 31-July-2011)
I want system to calculate the new moving average price and update all the documents posted from 31-July-2011. MY MM period is not closed.
Is it possible to do so and how. Please Help.
Thanks

Hi
The physical inventory is carried out on the basis of stock management units.A stock management unit is a non-divisible part of a stock of materials for which a seperate book inventory exists.A stock management unit is uniquely defined by
Material
Plant,storage location
Stock type
Batch
Special Stock
Each stock management unit of a material is counted seperately,and the inventory diffreneces are posted per stock management unit.
The physical inventory process comprises three phases
1)Creation of physical inventory documents(MI01)
2)Entry of Count(MI04)
3)Posting the difference(MI07)
1)In the first phase ,you create the physical inventory documents.SAP systems provide several procedures for mass-generation of PI documents.After selecting the stocks to be counted and creating the PI documents,you print out the documents in order to start the counting process.A physical inventory document cotains data that include
>The plant and storage location in which the count has to take place
>The date on which the count has to take place
>The materials to be counted
>the stock types to be counted
>The status of the item
>The status of the PI document
When creating a PI document,you can specify a physical inventory nuber in the document header.This physical inventory number facilitates selection of the PI documents to be processed during entry of the count data,posting the diffrences, and in evaluations.
2)Entering the physical inventory count:For the physical inventory count,you must print out the PI document and forward it to persons responsible for the count.You can enter the stock figures in the system with and without reference to a PI document.When entering the physical inventory count,you can enter a percentage variance of the count quantity from the book inventory,above which the system issues a warning message.
3)You can post the inventory diffrences either via list of differences or via seperate transactions.When an inventory difference is posted,the system creates a material document and corrects the stock figures,and an accounting document recording the necessary accounting movements.
Hope this will be helpful for you.
Regards,
Sandesh Sawant

Moving Average Price for Non-Valuated Material

Hello Experts
The question may seem to be quirky but need your advice for the below.
My client is buying non-valuated material against a cost center, they do not want to keep the stocks valuated. No value update only quantity update. The accounting documents are the following when the GR is done by receiving folks
Qty of material XYZ goods receipted = 10
Debit     Consumption GL   12345678       10 USD          Cost Center ABC123 (This is a warehouse cost center)
Credit    GR/IR account                            10 USD
Qty of mateiral XYZ issued = 5
The goods are later on issued to Production cost center and the client was the below entries to be passed with MOVING AVERAGE PRICE.
Debit    Consumption GL 12345678           6 USD          Cost Center ABC456 (This is production Cost center)
Credit   Consumption GL 12345678           6 USD          Cost Center ABC123 (This is warehouse cost center)
I am aware that as this is a non valuated material the above entry is not possible. Maybe, I will use BAPI_ACC_DOCUMENT_POST for the generating the accounting document when the goods are issued from warehosue to production center.
My question is how can i get the moving average price.
Regards
Chokkalingam Pillai

you can have an accounting view for non-valuated materials, this helps for example with purchase requisitions as they could take the valuation price from the material master and the user does not need to enter a valuation manually.
But the material master moving average price cannot be calculated and updated automatically, as it is not foreseen in any standard program to do this for cost center procurement, since SAP only calculates a MAP for valuated stocks.
Further it is not logical to issue non-valuated stock valuated (even with a different price) from cost center to cost center.
It looks like you want to have a kind of internal billing for warehouse services, as you end up with a negative amount in the warehouse cost center which is then the profit.
Why don't you just create a report to run at the end of the month, listing all goods issue movements with their cost centers and taking the price from last PO (or from material master if you decide to maintain it manually) and use this for a manual cost center posting in CO module

Moving average price query

Hi Team,
The Purhcase order is created for 50 qty reference to Contract price 284.58 and we have done the GR for 33 qty on 01 April and invoice completed on 07 april for 33 qty and for the remaning qty 17 we have processed the invoice intially before GR on 18 June and reversed it on 19 June and reprocessed invoice for 17 qty on 26 June also mistankenly one more invoice processed for 8 quantity on 26 June and reveresd on the invoice for 8qty on 14 july and finally we processed the Goods receipt for 17 qty on 15 July and system has picked the Material price as 267.81.
I know this is an SAP standard behavior for Material with Moving average price,
The reason for the Goods Receipt Material price value picked by the system as 267.81 is
INVOICE for 17*284.58 = 4837.86
INVOICE for 8* 232.18 = 1857.44
Total 25 = 6695.3
Total value (6695.3) / total quantity (25) = 267.81 (Material price)
Hence when we post the goods receipt system has picked the Material value as 267.81.
Could you please let me know the reason on the SAP behvaiour below
we have revered the invoice on 14 July for 8 qty and processed the GR for remaining PO qty 17 only on 15 July eventhough system has picked the Material price as 267.81
i couldn't able to find the Material price form where system has picked. (it's not update in Material master and table MBEW)
Thanks in advance.

Hi Karthikeyan,
Tcode MR51 check your all material document currency key for amounts in the system which document change to price see you..
MBEW is last average price listed.
You need to change average price use to Tcode MR21
Regards,
Cem ATES

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