SAP R/3 4.7 and ECC 5.0
Hello MM gurus!
i would like to know differences between SAP r/3 4.7 and ECC 5.0, and what makes the client to opt of the 4.7 or ECC 5.0.
Thanks in Advance gurus.
Regards,
Pieadad.
I am sorry for posting the question without searching properly. i got the answer for my question.
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Pieadad.
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Difference between version on functionalities you can find on the following link.
Give the source version (i.e. 4.6 C) and select the target version (i.e. ECC 6.0)
http://solutionbrowser.erp.sap.fmpmedia.com/
Please check this Release notes :
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technology in it. It is used to build and run SAP Applications and customer
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etc). You can find more information on the SAP NetWeaver page on the SAP
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what are the differences we find between SAP r/3 4.7 and ECC servers?
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ECC 6.0 means it is an latest version of SAP ERP package (ERP Central components). it will support for netweaver and BW.
Chk this links for more details.
ECC 6.0 clarification
Replacement for CONVERT_DATE_INPUT in ECC 6.0
Upgrade from sap 4.7 to ECC 6.0
Upgradation to ERP 6.0 '2005'
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http://solutionbrowser.erp.sap.fmpmedia.com/
http://www.sap.com/solutions/business-suite/erp/pdf/BWP_ERP2006_Upgrade.pdf
http://service.sap.com/releasenotes
http://service.sap.com/upgrade
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I do not need to see the list of all Business Content in ECC 6.0, just what has changed.
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Edited by: Michael Frank on Feb 3, 2010 3:07 PMHi,
http://service.sap.com/erp
http://solutionbrowser.erp.sap.fmpmedia.com/ (Functional prespective)
http://service.sap.com/instguides --> mySAP Business Suite Applications --> mySAP ERP --> mySAP ERP 2005 --> Upgrade
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/LOVC/LOVC.pdf
For Functionality Differences pls refer to the below site -
http://solutionbrowser.erp.sap.fmpmedia.com/
After opening the site, please select the Source Release Version which is 4.6 b Then Select the Target Release Version which is "mySAP ERP 2005" or ECC 6.0
Select the Solution Area like Financials, Human Capital Management, Sales....
Select module like MM, PP, SD, QM.....
Click on Search
Then it displays the Release Version and the Delta Functionality. which can be downloaded to a word document if required.
and also check the release notes of ECC 6.0 in service.sap.com.
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SAP Data Archiving in R/3 4.6C and ECC 6.0.
Hi Guys,
Need some suggestions,
We currently working on SAP R/3 4.6 and have plans to upgrade it to ECC 6.0,
In the mean time there is an requirement for SAP Data Archiving for reducing the database size and increase system performance.So wanted to know if its better to do Data Archiving before upgrade or after. Technically which will be comfortable, Also wanted to know if any advanced method available in ECC 6.0 compared to SAP R/3 4.6.
Please provide your valuable suggestion.
Thanks and Regards
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With respect to archiving process there will be no major difference in 4.6 and ECC 6.0 system. However you may get more advantage in ECC6.0 system because of Archive routing and also upgraded Write, Delete programs (upgraded program will depend on your current program in 4.6 system). For example In 4.6 system for archive MM_EKKO write program RM06EW30, archiving of purchase document is based on company code in the selection criteria and there is no preprocessing functionality. In ECC 6.0 you can archive by purchase organization selection criteria and preprocessing functionality will additional help in archiving of PO.
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1 Prerequisites
1.1 User Roles
Use
With the Building Block Connectivity a configuration role for each component is provided to access all transactions relevant for the installation. The following roles are available:
Technical name Description File name for upload
B02_01C B02 - Connectivity Configuration Role (SAP R/3) B02_01C.SAP
B02_03C B02 - Connectivity Configuration Role (SAP BW) B02_03C.SAP
C71_04C B02 - Connectivity Configuration Role (SAP CRM) C71_04C.SAP
B02_04C_SRM B02 - Connectivity Configuration Role (SAP SRM) B02_04C_SRM.SAP
Procedure
Please upload the necessary roles and add them to your user, using transactions PFCG (Role Maintenance).
2 Local Settings
This chapter describes all local settings that are necessary for each component like SAP R/3, SAP SCM, SAP BW, SAP CRM or SAP SRM.
2.1 SAP R/3
2.1.1 Define Client Administration (SAP R/3)
Use
This activity allows you to change Customizing settings.
Prerequisites
You have logged on to the system in English in order to start with the installation of the Best Practices Scenario.
Procedure
Run the following activity:
SAP R/3 Role Menu Define Client Administration (SAP R/3)
Transaction Code SCC4
SAP R/3 Menu Tools Administration Administration Client Administration Client Maintenance
Then carry out the following steps:
1. Choose Display Change.
2. Confirm the warning message Caution: The table is cross client.
3. Select your SAP R/3 client and choose Details.
4. In the Change View Clients: Details screen, activate the following settings:
u2022 Automatic recording of changes
u2022 Changes to Repository and cross-client Customizing allowed
u2022 eCATT and CATT allowed.
5. Save.
6. Go back to the SAP Easy Access menu.
2.1.2 Defining a Logical System for SAP R/3 (SAP R/3)
Use
The purpose of this activity is to create a logical system for your SAP R/3 System. To enable communication between systems within your system landscape, you must
1. Define the systems as logical systems.
2. Assign the logical system for the SAP R/3 System to a client.
This enables the systems to recognize the target system as an RFC destination. If the logical system has already been created, skip this activity.
Logical systems are defined cross-client.
Procedure
Carry out the following steps:
1. Access the transaction using:
SAP R/3 Role Menu Defining a Logical System for SAP R/3 (SAP R/3)
Transaction Code SPRO
SAP R/3
IMG Menu Basis Components (for R/3 Enterprisse: SAP Web Application Server) Application Link Enabling (ALE) Sending and Receiving Systems Logical systems Define Logical System
2. Choose New entries.
3. In the column Log System, enter a name for the logical system that you want to create.
4. In the column Name, enter a description of the logical system.
Log. System Name
where XXX is the system name
and NNN is the client.
5. Save your entries.
A transport request for Workbench appears.
6. Select an existing request or create a new request, if necessary.
A transport request for Customizing appears.
7. Select an existing request or create a new request, if necessary.
2.1.3 Assigning Logical System to Client
Use
The purpose of this activity is to make an assignment for the logical system. Skip this activity if a logical system is already assigned to your client.
Procedure
Carry out the following steps:
1. Access the transaction using:
SAP R/3 Role Menu Assign Logical System to Client
Transaction Code SCC4
SAP R/3 Menu Tools Administration Administration Client Administration Client Maintenance
2. Choose Display ® Change.
3. Confirm the warning message The table is cross client.
4. Select your R/3 client and choose Details.
5. Enter the name of the logical system of your SAP R/3 client.
6. Save and confirm the warning message Be careful when changing the logical system.
7. Choose Back twice.
2.1.4 Creating an RFC User (SAP R/3)
Use
To enable communication between the SAP R/3 back-end system and the SAP SCM System, you have to create an RFC user in the SAP R/3 System.
The RFC user in the application client enables multiple RFC connections. Skip this activity if an RFC User has already been created.
Procedure
Carry out the following steps:
1. Access the transaction using:
SAP R/3 Role Menu Creating an RFC User (SAP R/3)
Transaction Code SU01
SAP R/3 Menu Tools Administration User Maintenance Users
2. In the User field, enter RFCUSER.
3. Choose Create.
4. On the Maintain User screen, enter the following data on the Tab entry screens:
Address
Last Name
Function
Logon data
User type System
Password LOGIN
Profile
Profiles SAP_ALL
SAP_NEW
S_BI-WX_RFC
Defaults
Logon Language EN
5. Save your entries.
2.3 SAP BW
2.3.1 Define Client Administration
Use
This activity defines changes and transports of the client-dependent and client-independent objects.
Procedure
1. To perform this activity, choose one of the following navigation options:
SAP BW Role Menu Local Settings ® Define Client Administration
Transaction Code SCC4
SAP BW Menu Tools Administration Administration Client Administration Client Maintenance
2. Switch to change mode.
3. Select your client.
4. Choose details.
5. In field Currency enter the ISO-code of the local currency, e.g. USD or EUR.
6. In field Client Role enter Customizing
7. Check the settings for changes and transport of client-specific objects and client-independent object changes
If you want to use the settings made by BC-Sets or manually in other systems (other than BW), u201CAutomatic recording of changesu201D and u201CChanges to Repository object and cross-client Customizing allowedu201D is required.
Result
Client administration has been defined to support the installation using Best Practices.
2.3.2 Defining a Logical System for SAP BW (SAP BW)
Use
In this step, you define the logical systems in your distributed system.
Prerequisites
Logical systems are defined cross-client. Therefore cross-client customizing must be allowed in your client (this can be checked in transaction SCC4).
Procedure
To carry out the activity, choose one of the following navigation options:
SAP BW Role Menu Defining a Logical System for SAP BW (SAP BW)
Transaction Code SPRO
IMG Menu SAP Reference IMG SAP Customizing Implementation Guide SAP NetWeaver Business Information Warehouse Links to other Systems General Connection Settings Define Logical System
1. A dialog box informs you that the table is cross-client. Choose Continue.
2. On the Change View u201CLogical Systemsu201D: Overview screen, choose New entries.
3. On the New Entries: Overview of Added Entries screen enter the following data:
Field name Description R/O/C User action and values Note
Log. System Technical Name of the Logical System Enter a name for the logical BW system that you want to create
Name Textual Description of the Logical System Enter a clear description for the logical BW system
4. Choose Save.
If a transport request for workbench and customizing is displayed choose existing requests or create new requests.
If you want to continue with the next activity, do not leave the transaction.
Result
You have created a Logical System Name for your SAP BW client.
2.3.3 Assigning Logical System to Client (SAP BW)
Procedure
To carry out the activity, choose one of the following navigation options:
SAP BW
Role Menu Assigning Logical System to Client (SAP BW)
Transaction Code SCC4
SAP BW Menu Tools Administration Administration Client Administration Client Maintenance
1. In the view Display View "Clients": Overview, choose Display. Change
2. Confirm the message.
3. Select your BW client.
4. Choose Details.
5. In the view Change View "Clients": Details, insert your BW system in the Logical system field, for example, BS7CLNT100.
6. Save the entries and go back.
2.3.4 Opening Administrator Workbench
Procedure
To carry out the activity, choose one of the following navigation options
SAP BW Modeling Administrator Workbench: Modeling
Transaction Code RSA1
1. In the Replicate Metadata dialog box, choose Only Activate.
2. If a message appears that you are only authorized to work in client ... (Brain 009) refer to SAP Note 316923 (do not import the support package, but use the description under section Workaround).
2.3.5 Creating an RFC-User (SAP BW)
Procedure
To carry out the activity, choose one of the following navigation options:
SAP BW Role Menu Creating RFC User
Transaction Code SU01
SAP BW Menu Tools Administration User Maintenance Users
Then carry out the following steps:
1. On the User Maintenance: Initial Screen screen:
a. Enter the following data:
Field Entry
User RFCUSER
b. Choose Create.
2. On the Maintain User screen:
a. Choose the Address tab.
b. Enter the following data:
Field Entry
Last Name RFCUSER
Function Default-User for RFC connection
c. Choose the Logon data tab.
d. Enter the following data:
Field Entry
Password LOGIN
User type System
e. Choose the Profiles tab.
f. Enter the following data:
Field Entry
Profiles SAP_ALL , SAP_NEW and S_BI-WHM_RFC
g. Choose Save.
Do not change the password of this user as it is used in RFC connections.
2.3.6 Define RFC-USER as default (SAP BW)
Procedure
To carry out the activity, choose one of the following navigation options
SAP BW Role Menu Define RFC-USER as default (SAP BW)
Transaction Code RSA1
SAP BW Menu Modeling Administrator Workbench: Modeling
1. On the Administrator Workbench: Modeling screen choose Settings Global Settings.
2. In the Global Settings/Customizing dialog box choose Glob. Settings.
3. On the Display View u201CRSADMINA Maintenance Viewu201D: Details screen:
a. Choose Display Change.
b. Enter RFCUSER in the BW User ALE field.
c. Choose Save.
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Is there any difference in SAP 4.7 and ECC 5.0
Dear,
Is there any difference in SAP 4.7 and ECC 5.0...
Thanx & Regards,
Mohammad NabiHi,
Check this out
Hi I'm providing the ECC 6.0 functionality if you knows the
4.7EE the difference is as follows:
ECC 6.0 New GL Functionality
1.Activate the New General Ledger Accounting by a single
click on the clock icon
2.You will reach to change view "activation of New GL A/cg"
detail screen and tick the checkbox and save.
3. After activation of New General Ledger Accounting, you
exit the IMG screen when you re-enter, you find that a new
node is added Financial Accounting (New)
4.After activation of New General Ledger Accounting; a new
sub node appears in the IMG structure.
This sub node is Define Segment
The menu path is:
SAP Customizing IMG ---> Enterprise Structure -
>
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In this IMG activity, you define your segments.
If you then define your profit centers, you can enter an
associated segment in the master record of a profit center.
The segment is then derived from the assigned profit center
during posting.
5. Activation has created a new field in Profit Center
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in parallel. This allows you to produce financial
statements according to different accounting principles. A
ledger uses several dimensions from the totals table it is
based upon. When defining Ledgers, one must be defined as
the Leading Ledger. The Leading Ledger is based on the same
accounting principles as that of the consolidated financial
statements. It is integrated with all subsidiary ledgers
and is updated in all company codes. This means that it is
automatically assigned to all company codes. In each
company code, the Leading Ledger receives exactly the same
settings that apply to that company code : the currencies,
the fiscal year variant and posting period variant .
You must designate one of your ledgers as the Leading
Ledger. It is not possible to designate more than one
ledger as the leading ledger.
The menu path is:
SAP Customizing IMG -
> Financial Accounting (New) -
>
Financial Accounting Basic Settings (New) -
> Ledgers ---
-> Ledger -
> Define Ledgers for General Ledger
Accounting
Clicking on the checkbox identifies one of your ledgers as
the Leading Ledger.
7. Activation of Non Leading Ledgers
Non Leading Ledgers are parallel ledgers to the Leading
Ledger . They can be based on local accounting principle,
for example. You have to activate a non- Leading Ledger for
individual company codes. Non- Leading Ledgers can have
different fiscal year variants and posting period variants
per company code to the Leading Ledger of this company
code.
The menu path is :
SAP Customizing IMG -
> Financial Accounting ( New ) -
> Financial Accounting Basic Settings (New) -
> Ledgers -
---> Ledger -
> Define and Activate Non --Leading
Ledgers
8.Assign scenarios to ledgers
A Scenario combines Customizing settings from different
business views. Each business view specifies which posting
data is transferred from different application components
in General Ledger Accounting, such as cost Center update or
Profit Center update .You assign the desired scenarios to
your ledgers. For each ledger, you define which fields are
filled with posting data from other application components.
SAP delivers a number of scenarios in the standard system.
It is not possible to create additional scenarios.
The menu path is:
SAP Customizing IMG -
> Financial Accounting (New) -
> Financial Accounting Basic Settings (New) -
> Ledgers -
--->Fields -
> Display Scenarios for General Ledger
Accounting.
9. Cost of sales accounting
Cost of sales accounting is a way to create a profit and
loss statement (P&L) for a company by comparing the
revenues to the costs or expenses incurred to obtain these
revenues.
The expenses are mainly divided by functional area such as:
Manufacturing
Administration
Sales
Research and Development
We can activate Cost of Sales Accounting by the following
menu path :
SAP Customizing IMG -
> Financial Accounting ( New ) -
-> Financial Accounting Basic Settings (New) -
>
Ledgers ->Ledger---> Activate Cost of Sales Accounting
Offsetting Account Report ECC 5.0
Offsetting account report for vendors in ECC 5.0 is
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What is the difference in 4.0, 4.6 and ECC versions of SAP?
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What is the difference in 4.0, 4.6 and ECC versions of SAP?
ThanksSAP R/3 is basic ERP that every one keeps talking about which has got different versions ike 3.1, 4.0, 4.6, 4.7. The latest one in this is the ECC which again has got two versions in the market - ECC 5.0 and ECC 6.0.
NetWeaver is the techology stack which gives other solutions that work with R/3 and also provide a technology platform for the ERP to work.
EP - Enterprise portal is a part of the NetWeaver stack and can be used to provide web interface for the user apart from the standard protal functionalities.
You can find more details of NetWeaver here
http://help.sap.com/content/documentation/netweaver/index.htm
and also check these..
Re: R/3 Enterprise v mySAP ERP 2003 v ECC 5.0 v mySAP ERP 2004
Technical difference between 4.7 and ECC 5.0
difference between sapr/3 4.7 and sapr/3 ecc 5.0
Differences b/n 4.6c,4.7 and ECC 5.0
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Hello,
Could anyone help me for my doubt in the SAP CRM.
When have a Two systems SAP CRM and ECC, If we create a role in CRM (Eg. Employee) how this role is transfered to ECC ?Go to http://help.sap.com/search/sap_trex.jsp, Select "SAP Best Practices" instead of "SAP Documentation" on top.
Hope this helps.
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SAP version 4.7 and ECC 5.0
HI Friends,
Could you plz help me out to know what are overall commonalities and differences and in view of SD module also in SAP R/3 Version 4.7 and ECC 5.0?
Thanks in advance.
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