Sap sd-third party sales

when the order is rised for third party material (HAWA) the system is saying consumption account canot be determined
tell me the solution to rectify it soon

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Tax & Excise in Third Party Sales

Hi Friends,
As per Std.SAP in third party Sales Scenario a PR will be automatically created when we save the SO & out of that we create a PO.
Now kindly provide clarifications for the below query's
1. When we create a PO with respect to this PR (Is taxes & excise applicable) ?
2. How we have to maintain this Third Party Material in J1ID inorder to determine the excise rates for Calculation?
3. As per this Scenario our Vendor will deliver the goods to our customer & we will do a Statistical GR which will post to the consumption & GR/IR clearing accounts. Now what will the impact in Excise side as our material in the PO is subjected to excise?
4. Do we take the Cenvat credit as in case of Raw materials??
Since I am not clear in the excise & taxes part of this Scenario. Please help me..
Regards,

Excise Duty: Excise Duty is applicable only in an manufacturing scenario in India. I will illustrate with sone examples, as under:
Example 1:
Sales from Plant 'A', material 'B' (manufactured product) to Customer 'XYZ'.
Customer XYZ orders material 'B', which is supplied from plant 'A', say quantity 1. Sale Base Value is Rs. 100/-, Basic Excise Duty 10%, Education Cess 2%, Higher Education Cess 1%, Vat 12.5%
(Excise Duty will be applicable and reflect as a separate component in above scenario)
Example 2:
Stock Transfer from Plant 'A', material 'B' (manufactured product) to Plant 'D'.
Plant 'D' has a requirement for material 'B', which is supplied from plant 'A', say quantity 1. Assessable Value is Rs. 80/-, Basic Excise Duty 10%, Education Cess 2%, Higher Education Cess 1%
(Excise Duty will be applicable and reflect as a separate component, but Vat will not be applicable in above scenario)
Example 3:
Sales from Plant 'A', material 'B' (Trading product) to Customer 'XYZ'.
Customer XYZ orders material 'B', which is supplied from plant 'A', say quantity 1. Sale Base Value is Rs. 120/-, Vat 12.5%
(Excise Duty will not be applicable in above scenario)
Regards,
Rajesh Banka

Return process in Third Party Sales

Hi ppl need some help,
In Third party Sales what happens if certain goods supplied by the Vendor to the customer are 'Defective' & are to be returned by the customer.
Does the customer return it to the Company to which he placed the order or he returns it to the Vendor.
How can we configure this process in SAP to settle the billing & issue the credit memo to the customer?
Shilpi

Hi Shilpi,
third party Return process you can configure like this,
Take return goods from ur customer, Your customer will return goods to you and not to vendor, remember one thing ur cutomer doesnt know who is vendor.
Create CR with refeerence to RE. Because RE will contain that Product and quantity which you ar getting back from the Customer and that you have invoiced the customer.
E.G. If you Sent 2 Quantiy of Materail XYZ at 50 Rs each to the customer, but you Got invoice from ur vendor at 40 Rs Each.
and if customer retuirn 1 quantity u have to return him 50 Rs and not 40 Rs.
So Create CR with respect to RE.
Hope this will help.
Revert back if u need any further help.
Thanks,
Raja

In Third party sales, Part of MM..?

Hi guru's
Can explain about third party sales and what is major part of work for MM in that.
1.Please send me the overall flow in Third party sales process with Transaction codes.
thanks
sap-mm

THIRD PARTY SCENARIO
in third-party order processing, your company does not deliver the items requested by a customer. Instead, you pass the order along to a third-party vendor who then ships the goods directly to the customer and bills you. A sales order may consist partly or wholly of third-party items. Occasionally, you may need to let a vendor deliver items you would normally deliver yourself.
Process Flow
the processing of third-party orders is controlled via material types. Material types define whether a material is produced only internally can be ordered only from third-party vendors, or whether both are possible. For example, a material that is defined as a trading good can only be ordered from a third-party vendor. However, if you manufacture your own finished products, you may also want, from time to time, to be able to order the same type of product from other vendors.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Sales
Third-party items can be created automatically by the system, depending on how your system is set. However, you can also change a standard item to a third-party item during sales processing manually.
Automatic third-party order processing:-
if a material is always delivered from one or more third-party vendors, you can specify in the material master that the material is a third-party item. During subsequent sales order processing, the system automatically determines the appropriate item category for a third-party item: TAS. To specify a material as a third-party item, enter BANS in the Item category group field in the Sales 2 screen of the material master record.
Manual third-party order processing
In the case of a material that you normally deliver yourself but occasionally need to order from a third-party vendor, you can overwrite the item category during sales order processing. For a material that you normally deliver yourself, you specify the item category group NORM in the material master.
If, as an exception, you use a third-party material, change the entry TAN to TAS in the ItCa field when processing the sales document. The item is then processed as third-party item.
If address data for the ship-to party is changed in the sales order in third-party business transactions, the changed data will automatically be passed on to purchase requisition and also to the purchase order ,if one already exists. In the purchase order, you can display the address data for the ship-to party in the attributes for the item.
You can only change the address data for the ship-to party in the sales order for third-party business transactions, and not in the purchase order.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Purchasing
when you save a sales order that contains one or more third-party items, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition in Purchasing. Each third-party item in a sales order automatically generates a corresponding purchase requisition item. During creation of the requisition, the system automatically determines a vendor for each requisition item. If a sales order item has more than one schedule line, the system creates a purchase requisition item for each schedule line.
Purchase orders are created from purchase requisitions in the usual way. For more information about creating purchase orders, see the Purchasing documentation. During creation of the purchase order, the system automatically copies the delivery address of your customer from the corresponding sales order. In a sales order, you can enter purchase order texts for each third-party item. When you create the corresponding purchase order, the texts are automatically copied into the purchase order. The number of the purchase order appears in the document flow information of the sales order.
All changes made in the purchase order are automatically made in the sales order as well. For example, if the vendor confirms quantities and delivery dates different from those you request and enters them in the purchase order, the revised data is automatically copied into the sales order
you process third-party items by creating a normal sales order. In overview for the order, you can then overwrite the default item category (TAN in the standard system) with the special item category for third-party items: TAS
Billing Third-Party Orders
If relevance for billing indicator for the item category has been set to B (relevant for order-related billing on the basis of the order quantity) in Customizing, the system includes the order in the billing due list immediately. If, however, the indicator has been set to F (relevant to order-related billing on the basis of the invoice quantity), the system does not include the order in the billing due list until an invoice from the vendor has been received and processed by the purchasing department. In the standard system, item category TAS (third-party order processing) has been given billing-relevance indicator F.
In the first case, the third-party order is considered to be completely billed only when the invoiced quantity equals the order quantity of the sales order item. In the second case, each time a vendor invoice is received, a customer invoice is created for the quantity in the vendor invoice and the order is considered to be fully invoiced until the next vendor invoice is received.
If you have activated billing-relevance indicator F for item categories in Customizing, billing can refer to the goods receipt quantity instead of the incoming invoice quantity.
You can control whether the invoice receipt quantity or the quantity of goods received is relevant for billing in Customizing for copying control for billing at item level.
FOR YOUR PROCESS Individual Purchase Orders WELL GIVE THE RIGHT SOLUTION
Individual purchase orders are used when your customer orders goods from you that are not in stock and must be ordered from one or more external vendors.
Process Flow
During sales order entry, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition item. The purchasing department creates a purchase order based on the requisition and the vendor ships the goods directly to you (unlike third party order processing, where the vendor ships directly to your customer). You then ship the goods to your customer. While the goods are part of your inventory, you manage them as part of the sales order stock. Sales order stock consists of stock that is assigned to specific sales orders and cannot be used for other purposes.
Process Flow for 3rd Party Sales
Customize the third party sales in summary:
Prerequisites for 3rd party sales,
Purchasing org,
purchasing group,
assign the Purchase org to company code
assign Purchase org to plant,
should not maintain the stock in material, it should be trading goods,
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing *--
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Capture cost of procured materials in a third party sales order scenario

Dear Experts,
I'm developing a third party sales order solution to my company following the recommended third party scenario by SAP.
Everything is working fine from creation of sales order, automatic creation of purchase requisition, create purchase order using the purchase requisition ect...
The problem I have is the in the Sales order, the cost of the material is not getting captured correctly. The condition maintained in the sales order is VPRS and it is deriving the material cost from the material master record. Ideally it should be deriving the material cost from the invoiced value or else from the purchase order(which is the actual amount we are spending to buy the items). Deriving the cost from material master depicts an incorrect profit in the sales order.
Can someone please advice me how to derive the cost(to be shown in the sales order under VPRS condition)from the invoice or the purchase requisition and Not from the material master.
I'll be grateful if you can describe in a step by step proceedure.
Thanks in advance

Hi Lakshmipathi
Thanks alot for your response.
As u mentioned, at the point of sales order creation the price does gets picked up from the Material Master.
But during Billing, it does NOT get updated to reflect the purchase order price. If that happens, then its perfect.
I did a complete testing cycle and the material master price remains unchanged throught the process upto billing.
Is there any special parameter that I should maintain in VPRS condition for this to happen?
Anyway thanks again for ur reply, appreciate it alot. Let me know your views on this.
As u advise I'll post it on the sales forum as well.
Regards,
Randika

In Third Party sales order processing how we come to know that the customer

Hi SAP SD Gurus,
In Third Party sales order processing how we come to know that the customer is recived the Goods from the vendor?
Thanks & Regards,
Sreenivas.P

From a high level view, the behavior should work like this:
- Sales order placed from customer PO via Tcode VA01. Purchase Requisition created upon saving the order
- Purchase order created with reference to Purchase Requisition via Tcode ME21N
- Receive confirmation from vendor that goods have shipped via EDI
- Create invoice receipt to vendor via Tcode MIRO
- Create billing document to bill customer via VF01

Third party sale scenario: COGS not allowed as automatically posted.

Dear Gurus,
I have come across this error during execution of third party sale scenario.
When the user enters a PO with reference to PR which is in reference to SO, one error pops up which says COGS cannot be automatically posted only.
When I deselect the "Post automatically" tick, the PO can be saved.
Process we are following during third party sale process:-
1. Sales order.
2. PR with reference to Sales order.
3. Purchase order with reference to PR.
4. Statistical GR with reference to PO.: COGS Dr. To GR/IR Clearing account Cr.
5. Sales Invoice: Customer Dr. To Sales Cr.
6. MIRO: GR/IR Clearing account Dr. To Vendor Cr.
I have my own doubts on the statistical GR part. Can you pls. validate the same.
Also in case of third party sale, what will be the CO object as COGS is not created a cost element. (SAP standard)
Regards,
Harnish Shah

Hi
Please check the steps for 3rd business process.
Sales Order:VA01
List of Sales Order:VA05
Purchase Order with reference to Purchase Requisition: ME21N
Inbound Delivery:VL31N Material Receipt:MIGO
Result Recording Work list:QE51N
QM Usage Decision:QA32
Activities due for Shipping `Sales Orders, fast display` VL10A　(VL01N)
Post of Goods Issue (PGI):VL02N
Post of Goods Deliver:VLPOD
Post the Billing doc VF01 or Maintain the Billing due list-VF04
Release Billing Document for Accounting VFX3
Delivery Document list ZVL05
Edit Work list for Invoice List VF24
Output of Billing Document VF31
Customer Payment F-28
As per my knowledge once psot the PGI,System will upddate COGS values.
Regards
asuvamsi

Return Sales of Third Party Sales

Dear Guru's,
My scenario is that I have done Third Party Sales with Shipping Notification (Sale Ord - PR - PO - MIGO - MIRO - Cust. Invoice) in SAP System. According to this vendor has delivered the material to the customer but customer found some damage to the material
and now the customer wants to return this material and also required credit for paid amount. So whom should the customer send this complaint (ofcorz to the company) and how the company will handle this return process to provide the credit to the customer.
Company can convince the customer for subsequent free of charge delivery also but tell me how that flow would be in SAP.
I have to map this with correct Financial impacts. Please Guru's guide me on the above scenario and if you need some more input
please ask me. Suggestions are also welcome.
regards,
Vojas

Dear Vojas,
You can ask your client as to how they process practically in this scenario.
You can do...
Create return sales order wrt original SO or Billing doc. --> Create return delivery with move. type 651. So there will not be any accounting doc. created --> then wrt return SO you can create credit memo or if the customer agrees, company can deliver free of charge material
Then
Create Subsequent FOC SO wrt original SO -
Here For this FOC SO, at schedule line VOV6, assign Order type as NB- PR and Item category as 5. So again PR will be created and you can process like normal Third party process. Here you will not bill the customer.
Hope you get some inputs
regards,
Sagar

PO Creation for third party sales

Hi
We have the scenario Third party sales and High sea sales which is already in use (already configured) , where PR getting generated automatically .
But client requirement is they want the PO to generate automatically by the system the moment i save the sales order .
Where is the setting in the SAP , where system will generate the PO automatically instead of PR
Please suggest

Hi,
Go to VOV7
Select third party item category which u r using in sales order >>> Deatils >>> under transaction flow >>> Tickmark to CREATE PO AUTOMATIC.
If you activate this field, the system automatically generates both a purchase order requisition for third-party schedule lines as well as a purchase order in the background when you save the sales order.
However u can not create PO directly.
Kapil

How to configure purchase requistion in third party sale pls send me detail

dear expert
how to configure purchase requistion in third party sale pls send me details. waiting your valuable reply
vicky

you can find the details in the below links
Re: THird party sales complete scenario
http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/ERPLO/PROCEDURETOCREATETHIRDPARTY+SALES
http://www.sap-img.com/sap-sd/process-flow-for-3rd-party-sales.htm
Regards

Billing Qty in Third party sales

Hi ,
I am MM person , executing a Cycle for third party Sales.
I have query regarding Item category , in std SAP Billing relevance field value for Item category TAS is set as F ... what does it mean ? What if i set it to B , what would be difference ?
Also , at my end , I have creates a Sales order - > PR - > PO and now i am changing Qty in PO and expecting that it will automatically update my Sales order but it is not happening.
Is it Std functionality
regards
Shrey

Hi
SAP Billing relevance field value for Item category TAS is set as F ...
what does it mean ?
F: Order-related billing doc. - status according to invoice quantity
Relevant for order-related billing documents based on the invoice receipt quantity (third-party business transaction). The system transfers the order into the billing due list only after the vendor invoice has been received and processed in the purchasing department. After the receipt of each invoice, a customer invoice is created for the quantity that appears on the vendor invoice. The order has status "Billed" until the next vendor invoice is received.
Item category TAS (Third party item) is set up with billing relevance "F" in the standard system.
This process can also be related to the quantity of goods receipt.
This is self explanatory
F means system will check whether MIRO has been done for that item
What if i set it to B , what would be difference ?
Billing relevance B is wrong for third party because if the sales order is for 5 qty qnd the vendor PO is for 5 units but the vendor delivers only 3 to your customer directly and he gives you bill for only 3 and you do MIRO for 3
If you make Billing relevance B system will make customer invoice for 5 qty which is wrong
If you make Billing relevance F system will make customer invoice for 3 qty which is correct
Also , at my end , I have creates a Sales order - > PR - > PO and now
i am changing Qty in PO and expecting that it will automatically update
my Sales order but it is not happening.
Is it Std functionality
Yes if you update po qty system will not update the sales order qty
you need to go for some development here
Regards
Raja

Payment Terms in Third Party Sales Invoice.

Hi Experts,
We are facing the problem in third party sales process.
Suppose X is our customer and Y is our vendor, here Y is supplying the material directly to X and Y sending us the bill of entry and other documents to us, and then we create the sales invoices to X, we are following all process like first we create SO to X then with the PR we create PO to Y then we do migo and miro of vendor invoices then creating the sales invoice to X.
The main problem is that we want that the payment due date to our customer invoice starts from the vendor bill of lading date which we enter at the time of migo and miro (document date), but in our system, in sales invoice to X, system is calculating payment terms which we have entered in the customer master of X.
How to get above functionality activated in sap.
Regards
Rajeev Gupta
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Can somebody reply this query.
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No CO-PA document on Third party Sales Order

We are doing Third Party Sales orders with Purchasing and Invoice REceipt, via the following process.
1 Sales order, 2) automatically creates the req via sales order, 3) delivery of sales order, 4) create the purchase order from the req. 5) post goods issue on the delivery, 6) Post goods receipt on purchase order, 7) bill and 8) invoice via miro.
the issue we have is that the variance(cOGS-PPV) account on the Miro does not go to CO-PA .
I believe that it is due to the Third Party sales order . re- oss 322497 and 772345.
Has anyone found a solution or have a similar problem.
I know that this is different from normal third party which does not deliver and receives PO and MIRO before the billing.

Hi Jeffrey,
If the corresponding purchase order belongs to a third-party deal,
please have a look at note 322497.
This would explain the behaviour that you are describing.
As explained in the note, during goods or invoice receipt for a
third-party transaction, as of Release 4.6, the system no longer
writes a line item in the costing-based profitability analysis.
Unlike the processing of a third-party deal in front of release 4.6 the
update of the goods receipt or the invoice receipt is not therefore
anymore required from the release 4.6 in the costing-based profitability
analysis.
You may find further information on the topic in SAPNET
(intranet.sap.com/co-pa):
within "Actual Data","third party business/business background"
Regards,
BC

Forecast Consumption from Third-party Sales Order

Dear SAP Gurus,
I would like to know how can I maintain a forecast that can be consumed by third-party sales order, if there is such standard SAP way to do that. What planning strategy and/or customizing do I need to do?
Thanks in advance for your help and support.
Kindly regards,
Heru Winarto
SAP Business Systems Analyst

Hi,
Whether SO consumes planned independent requirements or not it depend on your planning startegy.
Please check 'Planning with final assembly' (strategy 40). /Third party sales orders are equal to other SO, so, I think you caanot make difference third party and normal process from planning point of view/
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/cb/7f93e643b711d189410000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/60/9ea1536fbd11d191820000e8a5f6e6/frameset.htm
http://www.sap-img.com/pp008.htm
You can ask your question on SCM-PP forum as well.
BR
Csaba

Closed Third party Sales order still showing on Customer credit exposure

Hi,
We had earlier closed the status for a partially Invoiced Third party Sales order ,where Goods Receipt quantity was more than the PO and Customer Sales order quantity from Being Processed to completed through a Z transaction.
The payments for all the quantities delivered to the customers have been received for this particular third party order,but the value of one of the sales order item is showing as an exposure in the customer credit account.
Since there is no outstanding amount for this Sales order,How can this be resolved so as to this Sales order item amount should not appear in Customer credit account?
Inputs regarding this would be appreciated.
Regards
Mohammed Roshan

Hi Jurijs,
Have you checked LVKMPFZ1, LVKMPFZ2 & LVKMPFZ3 to find out if there is any code for credit checks and blocks in these user exits. Also please check FORM USEREXIT_AVAIL_CHECK_CREDIT under include MV45AFZF to find out if there is any code which is entered to not allow the availability check for blocked sales orders and therefore stopping the transfer of requirements inthe form of PR generation.
Don't worry about going into ECC 6.0. Once you will start the upgrade process on ECC 6.0, you will come to know a set of transaction codes which you can run into the system to find out the non standard ABAP code changes which exists in your SAP landscape.

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