SAP Standard Regarding Control File

Hi experts,
Can you guys please guide me regarding this
Changed the control file location 1 of the control file out of 3 to archive log files location.
Placing the control file to the archive log location is that a Sap Standard? If yes please Provide any SAP document suggesting above
Regards
Ricky

Hi Ricky,
It is recommended that place the control files on different physical disks.
The reading/writing of the control files doesn't cause very much performance.
For example, if you already split the online redologs, archivelogs and datafiles in different physical disks, you can distribute the control files like this:
control_files='/oracle/SID/origlogA/cntrl/cntrlSID.dbf','/oracle/SID/sapdata1/cntrl/cntrlSID.dbf','/oracle/SID/saparch/cntrl/cntrlSID.dbf'
It's just a example, you can use it as a reference.
If you want some document, goto service.sap.com/instguides and find the guide for your products, in section 'Preparation and planning', you can find the information about controlfiles distribution.

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