Save new workbook in menue role with VBA / ABAP

Hello,
does anybody know of a way to save a workbook which is not stored in SAP BW by then in a menue role folder through VBA or ABAP automatically?
I know that there is the SAPBEXsaveWorkbook function in VBA but that only works if the workbook already has an ID in BW. Maybe there is some workaround to assign name and ID beforehand? Where does the BEx get the ID if the workbook already has one? Is it stored in a temporary mapping table or something? I found that there are NO very hidden sheets as long as there are no queries embedded in the workbook, and I want to save a workbook WITHOUT queries.
Also, I know that there is the saveDialogWorkbook function, but as stated above the saving process should be automatically, i.e. a function like SAPBEXsaveWorkbook(name As String, role As String, node-id As String). By the way, where would I get the node-id for the nodes in the menue role?
Thank you for ANY hints!

Hi Peter,
thanks for your update! Saving in the "root folder" of a role might already be sufficient if we don't figure out how to save in folders.
I've done some research, too, and the strange thing is that the number at the end is obviously not the folder ID. When you choose "Open -> Workbooks", then copy a workbook entry using Ctrl+C and paste it in an editor, you get more information than what is displayed in the dialog even with technical names turned on. The pasted entry includes the role name and the number you referred to. And the thing is that even two workbooks in the same folder have different numbers! When you save a workbook using 0000000000 and then look at the number assigned in the way described above, it also has an ID different from 0000000000. It seems that every workbook has its own number. So to me it's still a mistery where the folder is specified.
Regards,
Jörg

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