Scale Base Pricing

In pricing we have scales setup by Material Family (material price group) so if you enter three different materials from the same family it accumulates the prices on all three line items and each line item has the same price according to the family scale. But for one sales order type (AUART) the scale needs to be for line item only and not by family. The condition type is ZR00 and the scale basis is C. The requestor does not want to have to setup any master data so that is why I cannot create a new condition just for that sales order type or an additional access by order type. Would like to know if I can do this with a routine or formula and how it would be done.
Thanks,
TRB

Hi Toni
The logic has to be written based on the summing up of all requirements.
For eg, in your example, you want the third material to behave differently in Quotations. Like that if more materials are there to behave differently in picking up the prices from scales, the option will be to have a bespoke table carrying a possible combination of material pricing group / materials with a key field in the table which decides how the scale base value should be picked up. A logic can be written in such a way that if this key field is on, the scale base value should be picked up different to that of the normal logic which can be coded through ABAP.
I have worked on scales but not exactly to this requirement. My suggestion would be follow this route, if the client is still not convinced on changing the master data. Again this solution will work if the number of materials is not very high because of performance issues in pricing. The logic will depend on number of materials & pricing master data scale value, hence this solution has to be validated according to the requirements. Huge amount of testing will be involved in this for sure.
Hope it helps.
Regards
Nara

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This is regarding one issue I am facing in Invoice creation.
It happens randomly in some invoices (impact is in <5 % of invoices) that a discount condition value is incorrectly calculated when created through batch job.
This issue is not replicable in any of the lower environments.
When we cancel the invoice in produciton system and recreate it, the values are calculated correctly and we failed to replicate it even in production to find the root cause.
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Hi,
These requirements should be met to fetch the condition record in the document.
1 = Different Payer
If this requirement is assigned to the condition type, the sold-to-party and payer should be different, so it will be picked up in the document.
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3 = Foreign currency doc
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4 = Cost
If this requirement is set, the item should be relevent for cost determination (setting in item category)
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If this requirement is set, it will not consider the condition, if any condition exclusion is maintianed for it.
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Did anybody tried to use scale basis "G"?
I created formula for scale base where I calculate xkwert. The value seems correctly transferred to kstbs (scale base value) in sales order pricing, but the amount of the condition is not recalculated accordingly.
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I solved the problem today. Thanks all.
Message was edited by: Carlo Noventa

Hi Tushar
You need to create your own formula or routine in Transaction VOFM.
Put this routine in front of your condition type in Pricing procedure.
Also in maintain condition types keep your scale basis as 'G'
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Scale base value calculation ( Pricing!!)

Hello,
I have issue, when I am creating a credit memo request (Va01 order type is customized) with reference to billing document. All the items and prices are copied properly. But the scale base value is not copied properly. In the credit memo request (order) for each an every item the scale base value is as same as condition base value. But in the invoice (billing document) the scale base value is added with the pervious item scale base value.
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Hello I am creating a pricing condition ZPC1 that will only be applied to about half the items on the sales order but will be Scaled base need to be on the total number of items ordered weather the condition is applied to that item or not .
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I want the Scale price to be $.50 per case on item 1 not $1 per case.
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Dear James
Go to V/06, Selct your condtion type ZPC1, open controls.
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Urgent : How to use pricing scale base type "G" in CRM?

Hi Gurus
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Hi All,
I have tried to search the forum but somehow wasn't able to get the proper answer of my query. So putting up my below requirement.
The price say PR00 of material M1 will be in scale basis like :
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Hi Venu,
In the case you gave
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Suppose customers bought today 3 qnty it would be 100 rs and again If same customer order 10 Qnty it would be 100 Rs for 1st 7 and 95 Rs for the additional 3.
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Scale base value with price discrepancy credit note

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I have a problem in which credit notes for price discrepancies are having direct effect over scale base value in structure S060. I tried to modify the update rules, but found out this is hard coded for this structure. The other solution will be maybe to include a new pricing procedure and sales document just for discepancies, handling a fixed value condition type. Since the rebate which is experiencing the scale base value update is a quantity rebate I don´t know if it will have the desired effect.
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hi,
check out the following link:
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_03/helpdata/EN/de/5e74c39d3211d596fc0000e835339d/frameset.htm
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Hi
Can any one tell me for conditions types and scale basis for maintaining condition records
thanx in adv

dear
Scales in nothing but a range of order quantity, according to the pricing element depending upon the range of quantity prices way be increased/decreased, higher discounts, low freight changes can be offered.
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100/-
95/-
90/-
Check --value:
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Scale type:
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Scale formula:
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Condition scales:
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     Quantity          Price
0-10     1000.00
11-20     999.00
21-30     998.00
31-40     997.00
Configuration settings:
Go to VK11; maintain condition record for PR00,
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Got to VA01 and raise scales order, validity periods to scale. Check the condition value
rewards if it helps
siva
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Scale base

Dear Experts
What is the functionality of scale base check in condition type of Pricing schema. please explain in detail

Hi,
Scale basis .. required for following req.
If Procurement Qty 100 Nos price 10 /- per unit.
if procurement Qty 100-500 nos Price 9 /- per unit.
If procurement qty More then 500 Nos Price 7 /- unit.
Logically this only kind of discount offering by customer during procurement.
You have to maintain the scale basis at Info record condition.
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SAM

Scale base type

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There're several sap standard scale base types which you could set up in the conditon type, like 'Net value', 'Quantity', 'Gross weight'. But I cannot use one of them, what I need is take the value of former condition steps of pricing procedure as the value of the scale base type for the calculation. Like
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Best Regards,
Michael

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Folks,
I have a case here for scale based pricing but a variant of it. Please let me know if you guys faced this situation and please throw up possible solutions.
For quantity 1 price is say 20,000
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3 --> 30,000
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Hi,
Go in to condition record maintenance by VK11.
Put materail and it's price
click on scale and maintain scale
1 >>>> 20000
2>>>>>25000,
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Scale in pricing and free goods.

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