Sequence in operation
we have a situation:
Operation 0010, 0020 and 0030 are in final assembly.
Operation 0010 and 0020 should start simultaneously but should have independent confirmation possible. After confirmation of 0010 and 0020, Operation 0030 should start and be confirmed.
How to address such situation?
Please provide me a solution.
Shilender,
With parallel sequence you have floats creted. Alignment key is for how you want the floats to be - whether at the beginning or at the end of a sequnce.
If a sequence is aligned with the earliest possible date, the float is at the end of the sequence.
If a sequence is aligned with the latest possible date, the float is at the beginning of the sequence.
Regards
Ram
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Launch TS sequence with operator interface
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hi,
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Message no. KV161
Diagnosis
If the routing specifies a sequence of operations that are defined as a parallel sequence, this will have the following effects:
The system cannot interpret the confirmed scrap quantities in cumulative and periodic settlement when it calculates the scrap.
The system cannot calculate work in process at target costs for this order because it does not recognize the relevant operations.
Procedure
If you want to calculate scrap or WIP, do not define parallel sequences.
vishnuHi Robert
Though I am seeing this msg for the 1st time - I can give you a some insight into this
It seems you are in product cost by period (PCP) scenario ... In this scenario, WIP is calculated at target cost.... The mechanism of calculating WIP is Confirmed Qty at preceeding operation - Confirmed Qty of next operation..
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It is not possible to control the routing sequence selection based on lot size.
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We have a parallel sequence as well with operations set in the same way "Continuous flow prod"
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Thank you.Hi,
I tried with 5 ops 10, 20, 30 ,40,50 ( same work center wc1)
Set up time 1, Process time 1min for 1 pc
set the continuous flow prodn i at op 20 with min send ahead qty 1
Also a parallel seq was created with 3 ops op20 ,30 , 40 .
set up time was 2 min for all work centers( same work center wc2) and proc time
time is 1 min for 1 pc
In that set the continuous flow prodn at op 20 with min send ahead qty 1
sceduling type was forward
.Alignment key was 2 for both std seq and parallel seq .
After scheduling found that op 20 in std seq starts at 6.14am and op 40 ends
at 6.47 am where as in parallel seq op 20 starts at 6.11 am and op 40 ends at
at 6.47 am which is correct.( branch op is 20 and return op is 40)
The three minutes late start in op 20 of std seq is due to 3 minutes extra time
defined for three work centers setup time.
I also tried with alignment key 1in both std seq and parellel seq.
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