Server 2012 R2 tiered storage, is hardware RAID forbidden?

Hi,
I am building a new server for customer. We have total of 7 pcs 1TB HDD and 2pcs of 240GB SSD.
Before 2012 R2 version I usually built:
2 pcs HDD 1TB RAID1 for HOST (OS)
4 pcs HDD 2TB RAID10 for "slow IO" virtual disks (AD, fileshares, etc.)
2 pcs SSD 200GB RAID1 for "high IO" virtual disks (SQL server etc.)
1 pc HDD 1TB HOT SPARE for HDDs
Using R2 tiered storage I would build:
2 pcs HDD 1TB RAID1 HOST (OS), still using HW RAID as I need to boot from this.
2.2GB storage spaces LUN (2 way parity) which is created from:
2 pcs SSD 200GB (FAST tier)
4 pcs HDD 1TB (STANDARD tier)
1 HDD 1TB (SPARE?)
Now with R2 fast tier feature I can leverage the SSDs better but I lose hotspare for HW RAID1 (not a huge issue but still a minus)
 I am also worried about the notification & detection of failures within storage spaces LUN. With HW RAID the controller takes care of checking the individual drives and smart status (predictive failures). Also notification is easy
to arrange (email etc.). Are there any similar methods in R2 at OS level? Of course if one drive drops out OS will detect that and notification is possible (somehow I assume). But what about checking smart status etc.?
I thought also about the following configuration:
2 pcs HDD 1TB RAID1 HOST (OS), HW RAID
2.2GB storage spaces LUN (no parity) which is created from:
SSD 200GB (FAST tier, actually 2 pcs HW RAID1), looks like single disk
HDD 2TB (STANDARD tier, actually 4 pcs HW RAID10), looks like single disk
OS would think that this LUN is not protected but under the hood disk failures and checkups would be handled by the HW RAID controller in usual manner. And 1TB hot spare would span the 1TB R1 (HOST) + 2TB R10 ("slow" virtual
disk space). I wonder what could go wrong with this setup :-) I believe this is not supported setup?
I look forward to any opinions if you had the stamina read all this.
BR,
Markku

Hi Markku,
To check smart status, you can start a Windows powershell in
Server 2012 R2, run the cmdlet Get-PhysicalDisk –FriendlyName PhysicalDisk1 | Get-StorageReliabilityCounter
in powershell, which can get the relevant property of the PhysicalDisk1 like the temperature, experienced any sort of read or write failures etc.
For more detailed information of Get-StorageReliabilityCounter, please check this article:
Determining disk health using Windows PowerShell on Windows Server 2012 and Windows 8:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/san/archive/2012/09/26/determining-disk-health-using-windows-powershell.aspx
In addition, To get information of your storage pool and disk, you can start with these cmdlets in powershell:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh848705.aspx
I hope this helps.

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    Hi,
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    For Storage Pooling:
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    Hyper-V Virtual Hard Disk Format Overview
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh831446.aspx
    Another possiable solution is using Storage Space - new function in Windows Server 2012. See:
    Storage Spaces Overview
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh831739.aspx
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    For Windows Sharing
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    For DFS replication limitation
    I assume the 10TB limitation comes from this link:
    http://blogs.technet.com/b/csstwplatform/archive/2009/10/20/what-is-dfs-maximum-size-limit.aspx
    I contacted DFSR department about the limitation. Actually DFS-R could replicate more data which do not have an exact limitation. As you can see the article is created in 2009. 
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    Backup limitation
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc772523.aspx
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    Eric Siron
    Altaro Hyper-V Blog
    I am an independent blog contributor, not an Altaro employee. I am solely responsible for the content of my posts.

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    Has anyone else seen Windows Server 2012 Storage Spaces with a Simple RAID 0 (also happens with Mirrored RAID 1 and Parity RAID 5) virtual disk exhibiting extremely slow read speed of 5Mb/sec, yet write performance is normal at 650Mb/sec in RAID 0?
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    Usage                             : Other
    OperationalStatus                 : OK
    HealthStatus                      : Healthy
    ProvisioningTypeDefault           : Fixed
    SupportedProvisioningTypes        : {Thin, Fixed}
    ReadOnlyReason                    : None
    RepairPolicy                      : Parallel
    RetireMissingPhysicalDisks        : Auto
    WriteCacheSizeDefault             : Auto
    FileSystem                        : Unknown
    Version                           : Windows Server 2012 R2
    ObjectId                          : {1}\\CBC116\root/Microsoft/Windows/Storage/Providers_v2\SPACES_StoragePool.ObjectId
                                        ="{1cca13ee-d45c-11e3-80b5-806e6f6e6963}:SP:{1cca13ef-d45c-11e3-80b5-806e6f6e6963}"
    PassThroughClass                  :
    PassThroughIds                    :
    PassThroughNamespace              :
    PassThroughServer                 :
    UniqueId                          : {1cca13ef-d45c-11e3-80b5-806e6f6e6963}
    AllocatedSize                     : 24962849046528
    ClearOnDeallocate                 : False
    EnclosureAwareDefault             : False
    FriendlyName                      : Primordial
    IsClustered                       : False
    IsPowerProtected                  : False
    IsPrimordial                      : True
    IsReadOnly                        : False
    LogicalSectorSize                 :
    Name                              :
    OtherOperationalStatusDescription :
    OtherUsageDescription             :
    PhysicalSectorSize                :
    ResiliencySettingNameDefault      : Mirror
    Size                              : 25264456597504
    SupportsDeduplication             : False
    ThinProvisioningAlertThresholds   : {70}
    WriteCacheSizeMax                 : 107374182400
    WriteCacheSizeMin                 : 0
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    OperationalStatus                 : OK
    HealthStatus                      : Healthy
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    SupportedProvisioningTypes        : Fixed
    ReadOnlyReason                    : None
    RepairPolicy                      : Parallel
    RetireMissingPhysicalDisks        : Auto
    WriteCacheSizeDefault             : Auto
    FileSystem                        : Unknown
    Version                           : Windows Server 2012 R2
    ObjectId                          : {1}\\CBC116\root/Microsoft/Windows/Storage/Providers_v2\SPACES_StoragePool.ObjectId
                                        ="{3407c278-597d-4d38-b877-b2eff1e8a936}:SP:{05303524-5f93-4829-b84a-44955d1eb28e}"
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    PassThroughIds                    :
    PassThroughNamespace              :
    PassThroughServer                 :
    UniqueId                          : {05303524-5f93-4829-b84a-44955d1eb28e}
    AllocatedSize                     : 24962849046528
    ClearOnDeallocate                 : False
    EnclosureAwareDefault             : False
    FriendlyName                      : Primordial
    IsClustered                       : True
    IsPowerProtected                  : False
    IsPrimordial                      : True
    IsReadOnly                        : False
    LogicalSectorSize                 :
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    OtherUsageDescription             :
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    Size                              : 25264456597504
    SupportsDeduplication             : False
    ThinProvisioningAlertThresholds   : {70}
    WriteCacheSizeMax                 : 107374182400
    WriteCacheSizeMin                 : 0
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    CimClass                          : ROOT/Microsoft/Windows/Storage:MSFT_StoragePool
    CimInstanceProperties             : {ObjectId, PassThroughClass, PassThroughIds, PassThroughNamespace...}
    CimSystemProperties               : Microsoft.Management.Infrastructure.CimSystemProperties
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    OperationalStatus                 : OK
    HealthStatus                      : Healthy
    ProvisioningTypeDefault           : Fixed
    SupportedProvisioningTypes        : Fixed
    ReadOnlyReason                    : None
    RepairPolicy                      : Parallel
    RetireMissingPhysicalDisks        : Auto
    WriteCacheSizeDefault             : Auto
    FileSystem                        : Unknown
    Version                           : Windows Server 2012 R2
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    PassThroughNamespace              :
    PassThroughServer                 :
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    IsPowerProtected                  : False
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    OtherUsageDescription             :
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    ThinProvisioningAlertThresholds   : {70}
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    CimSystemProperties               : Microsoft.Management.Infrastructure.CimSystemProperties
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    HealthStatus                      : Unknown
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    ParityLayout                      : Rotated Parity
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    UniqueIdFormat                    : Vendor Specific
    DetachedReason                    : By Policy
    WriteCacheSize                    : 1073741824
    ObjectId                          : {1}\\CBC116\root/Microsoft/Windows/Storage/Providers_v2\SPACES_VirtualDisk.ObjectId
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    PassThroughClass                  :
    PassThroughIds                    :
    PassThroughNamespace              :
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    UniqueId                          : 364989C195DBE31180D5F80F41FCD134
    AllocatedSize                     : 7516192768
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    Interleave                        : 262144
    IsDeduplicationEnabled            : False
    IsEnclosureAware                  : False
    IsManualAttach                    : True
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    NumberOfAvailableCopies           :
    NumberOfColumns                   : 8
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    OtherUsageDescription             :
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