Session creation at the time of Form Login

I enabled my session params to manage weblogic session management in Properties file. I'm using LDAP Realm as a Users/groups repository for credentials checking. I'm using form authentication(weblogic.servlet.security) API to check my credentials. Here I'm facing few problems. I'm not using ACL's for user login. Only form based authentication I'm using for users login to app.
1. The weblogic is creating the session in the first request itlself... i.e. At the time of invoking form.jsp file itself the session has been creating. But I want after authentication only the session should be created for that user.
2. After the session has expired it's not giving any exception. Simply it's creating new session object for that user. How to capture that session time out to display my custom form to specifies that your session has been timed out and try to relogin.
Could you please come up with your suggestions how to achieve this..
I will certainly waiting for your reply as it's blocking my dev work.
regards,
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Chandra,
The session has little to do with authentication. Rather, it provides a
means to correlate a series of otherwise random HTTP requests by determining
that the requests are all coming from the same inferred user agent (e.g. all
from the same browser instance).
When the user attempts to access any resource, the server (WebLogic) checks
to see if the resource is secured, which is to say that the user must have
specific permissions to access that resource. When such a resource is
requested, and the user has not been authenticated, then the server (in the
case of form based authentication) will send the user a login form. Once
that form is completed successfully (the user is authenticated), the user is
given the originally-requested resource, assuming of course that the user
has such a permission.
It is possible to determine when the session is new (HttpSession.isNew) and
it is possible to determine when it dies (using a session binding listener).
However, it is not possible to drive the client from the server, which
appears to be what you are asking.
It is possible to determine when the user tries to log in. This is
accomplished by replacing J_SECURITY_CHECK with your own servlet call, then
forwarding to J_SECURITY_CHECK.
It is possible to provide the authentication means, which is to say the
actual mechanism by which WebLogic determines if a user exists and if their
password is correct. This is a realm; a good example is the RDBMS realm,
for which source is included in WebLogic 5.1.
Peace,
Cameron Purdy
Tangosol, Inc.
http://www.tangosol.com
+1.617.623.5782
WebLogic Consulting Available
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I enabled my session params to manage weblogic session management inProperties file. I'm using LDAP Realm as a Users/groups repository for
credentials checking. I'm using form
authentication(weblogic.servlet.security) API to check my credentials. Here
I'm facing few problems. I'm not using ACL's for user login. Only form based
authentication I'm using for users login to app.
>
1. The weblogic is creating the session in the first request itlself...i.e. At the time of invoking form.jsp file itself the session has been
creating. But I want after authentication only the session should be created
for that user.
>
2. After the session has expired it's not giving any exception. Simplyit's creating new session object for that user. How to capture that session
time out to display my custom form to specifies that your session has been
timed out and try to relogin.
>
Could you please come up with your suggestions how to achieve this..
I will certainly waiting for your reply as it's blocking my dev work.
regards,
chandra

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