Setting Midi to recognize sustain pedal info, connected to Korg Triton

My Problem.... I am using Korg Triton thru Focusrite Saffire LE and sustain pedal works fine with Pro 53 plug in, but is not recognized with other plug ins such as EXSP 24 ! can anyone help please ? Thanks Jeff

Hi
MIDI CC 64 is a standard 'sustain' MIDI message which should always be supported within Logic provided that the Instrument plug/patch is programmed to act appropriately.
There is no need to get involved with "Preferences:Control Surfaces" for this function, so you should remove any info that you have entered here (or Trash the .cs preferences).
You should check that the Korg is correctly configured to transmit CC messages: check the Korg manual for more info: (<The type of message and values sent depend on the function you assign to the pedal in GLOBAL Mode, Page 4, Line 3 and/or 4. >)
CCT

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Hey guys! I've been having issues recently with my MS and can't find to know why. I want to start of with a detailed list of what I'm using to know if this helps.
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So here's the issue and what I've done to try to fix it (Troubleshooting) and also, what I know that is not affecting MS as in connections, hardware and routing processes.
ISSUE:
Every time I press the sustain pedal it triggers E3 note and it toggles between Sustain and this E3 note.
Every time I try to ASSIGN the sustain pedal in LAYOUT mode, press the ASSIGN button, hold and release the sustain pedal, it toggles between "Sustain" and "E3" noted assigned to the sustain pedal
TROUBLESHOOTING:
- I've made sure that the sustain pedal is connected to the right input on the back side of the KB (controller)
- I've made sure that the polarity is correct (switched it just in case - not working still!)
- In LAYOUT mode I ASSIGNED the pedal correctly to my sustain pedal (when it is on "Sustain" it is still triggering this E3 note)
- I've tried going through "ASSIGNMENTS & MAPPINGS" down to "PORT 1 USB2.0-MIDI" wich is the MIDI port that is shown on my MacBook Pro, and verify that it is showing "64 (Sustain)" as the mapped assignment and "SEND TO ALL" parameter (so it is triggered through all of my sounds)
- I've tried going to WORKSPACE and manually MAP PARAMETER the sustain pedal, but when I do this, it still shows that E3 note is being triggered.
- I've tried a clean boot of MS (same thing)
- I've tried a OS X clean boot (same thing)
- I've tried changing the MIDI-IN and OUT USB cable (3 different ones)
- I've tried connecting ONLY (NO SOUND DEVICE or Korg Nano devices nor USB splitter device connected) the MIDI-IN and OUT USB directly to the computer and into different USB ports (still the same thing!)
- I've tried different sustain pedals
What are your thoughts guys? Do any of you guys know how to fix this or have exp. this before? This is really strange and I'm actually thinking that it might be my Macbook Pro USB ports that are going crazy! One thing that I noticed is that sometime ago the MIDI DEVICE that was shown on "MIDI STUDIO" in System preferences was named after "USB MIDI CABLE" and now it is not available to use. Instead, now it is showing as "USB2.0-MIDI" and that's the one that is being used by my Mac. An interesting thing is that when I try "TEST" in MIDI STUDIO and play my KB, it does nothing .... no sound is heard as a MIDI signal being fed to my Mac.
PLEASE HELP! Need to fix this URGENTLY!!!
Blessings!
H

If we can't figure out why it's sending a note on command, let's just find a way to make it stop. First, go to layout mode, select the sustain pedal, and make your settings manually(don't press the assign button). Set it as you described above.
In Layout mode: (when toggled to sustain pedal)
Screen Control Inspector
Hardware Input
Device: Port 1 USB2.0-MIDI
Channel: Channel 1
Type: Press/Release
Number: 64 (Sustain)
MIDI thru: Automatic
Send Value to: None
Next, copy the sustain pedal control(the easiest way is command>C then command>V). It will look like this:
Select the new pedal and manually set it to:
In Layout mode: (when toggled to sustain pedal)
Screen Control Inspector
Hardware Input
Device: Port 1 USB2.0-MIDI
Channel: Channel 1
Type: Note On/Off
Number: C-2
MIDI thru: Do not pass Through
Send Value to: None
The idea is to send that unwanted note the the lowest note(0) so it won't be in the way. I don't know if it will work for you, but it's worth a try.

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I have the pedal mapped properly (same channel, same keyboard selected, same channel selected on Kontakt plugin), since all other patches work fine with said sustain pedal in Mainstage... except for the Kontakt samples.
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Thanks.
This is the NI reply:
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You shouldn't have to assign it in Kontakt -- it just works. I would delete that.
A key indicator is that when you press the pedal, the MIDI message does not appear in Kontakt. That tells me your problem is in MainStage -- for some reason MainStage is intercepting that MIDI data. Therefore, the problem's not inside Kontakt's edit mode. It's somewhere in MainStage.
Sorry I can't be of more help but at least that narrows it down.
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My reply:
By the way, if you want to instantiate a Kontakt 4 patch within Mainstage, you have to create a keyboard surface in Layout mode, then assign it and map it to the keyboard you want to play that channel strip with in edit mode. If you don't map a sustain pedal object, Mainstage doesn't receive its message; therefore I am confused when you write: "You shouldn't have to assign it in Kontakt -- it just works. I would delete that."
The keyboard is mapped correctly, since I can play the Kontakt patch fine. Both wheel controllers and the sustain pedal are not getting midi data into Kontakt. As I said, everything works fine in Logic with the same set-up; so I agree, it has to be something I am missing within Mainstage...I just don't know what it is!
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Personally I don't think that's a solution and may not change a thing. Logic probably recognized the Akai and tried to use a stock Controller Assignment.
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