Should Admin Server run on a different machine

Hi,
          Is there any recomendation from BEA on running the AdminServer(where to
          run)?
          For the best approach (production environment), should admin server run on a
          different machine that does
          not have any managed server?
          I read in the docs that BEA recommends having the no. of weblogic instance
          be less than
          or equal to the number of CPU's. Assuming that I have 1 CPU machine, then
          running the AdminServer and one managed server on this machine, would this
          mean a performance problem or any other problems?
          Please advise.
          Thanks and Regards,
          Sriram.C.S
          

I typically recommend that customers run the Admin server on a separate
          machine (a 1 CPU machine is sufficient) so that the admin server, the
          configuration information, and all of the applications are installed on
          a machine that is not handling traffic. This not only makes the admin
          server more responsive and potentially not accessible to other users, it
          keeps all of the configuration information on a machine that is less
          likely to crash since it isn't really doing anything most of the time.
          In addition, the admin server is not currently clusterable so you should
          install it on a non-clustered server.
          Just my two cents,
          Robert
          Kunjan Jhaveri wrote:
          > Can somebody please give us some more details on this as to why Admin
          > Server should be running on a different machine ? ThanksKunjan
          >
          > "Kumar Allamraju" <[email protected]> wrote in message
          > news:[email protected]...
          >
          > "C.S.Sriram" wrote:
          >
          > > Hi,
          > >
          > > Is there any recomendation from BEA on running the
          > > AdminServer(where to
          > > run)?
          > >
          > > For the best approach (production environment), should
          > > admin server run on a
          > > different machine that does
          > > not have any managed server?
          > >
          >
          > Yes.
          >
          > >
          > > I read in the docs that BEA recommends having the no. of
          > > weblogic instance
          > > be less than
          > > or equal to the number of CPU's. Assuming that I have 1
          > > CPU machine, then
          > > running the AdminServer and one managed server on this
          > > machine, would this
          > > mean a performance problem or any other problems?
          >
          > I would suggest you to load test your application and see if
          >
          > you find any bottlenecks wrt CPU usage etc....
          >
          >
          > >
          > > Please advise.
          > >
          > > Thanks and Regards,
          > >
          > > Sriram.C.S
          >
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