Should I Install OS X Snow Leopard Server?

I recently received OS X Snow Leopard Server and I wasn't sure if I should install it. I currently run a 1 mac system, but am planning on expanding. Even with the multiple macs, I plan on using iLife and I have heard that Sever Edition does not allow this. Is this true? And if this is true, can I revert back to the regular version of snow leopard that I'm using now without of the whole archiving nonsense? All help is appreciated!

Load it. Have at. Set up a distributed network. Configure and run DNS server. Set up and run Open Directory. Netboot. Sharing storage. All the other pieces of Mac OS X Server, or of most any other server operating system. Then when you get around to adding another Mac, you're immediately ready to go.
Have a look at the Mac OS X Server manuals, if you're considering this Mac OS X Server path, too. As you get going with a server, you'll almost certainly be reading some or most of those.
If you're not planning for and not expecting the extra overhead of configuring and running a server, then don't load Mac OS X Server. For a handful of boxes, running a server is definitely more effort. When you get to some (unspecified) number of boxes in your configuration, then having a server is more economical and easier. (Where that transition might be can and does vary; it tends to be a local decision.)
And if you're looking for parts of what a server provides (such as shared storage) (without the costs and comparative complexity of running a full server), there can be alternatives. (For storage, such as a Network Attached Storage (NAS) box. And Mac OS X client can provide for up to 10 clients, too. )

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Here is the short answer:
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http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=17285039&postcount=564

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I have mac mini server running snow leopard server. I want to install Mac OS X Lion on it.
I have purchased Lion through App Store, but while installing on mac server it asks for Lion Server.
I am not using any server features as of now, Can I downgrade snow leopard server to client and instal Lion on it?
or is there any better way of installing Lion on Snow Leopard Server...
Thanks,
K

No easy way unfortunately.
OS X Server gets its fingers into all parts of your computer. You'd have to go in an manually remove hundreds of files, and replace them with their counterparts from the non-server version.
It would be MUCH easier to back up your home folder and any additional files you need, then nuke and pave with Lion non-server. Restore your info, and you'll be back up and running.
HTH
-Graham

Install Lion over Snow Leopard Server

I have a mac-mini that was purchased with Snow Leopard Server (the server model from just over a year ago).
Turns out, I haven't used any of the server functionality that wasn't already in the base User/Consumer version of OS X, so I want to just install Lion and not waste $50 on the Server Add on.
I've tried this via the Mac App Store _AND_ via the USB dongle. It wont install. When you try to run the Lion installer, it gives a "waiting for the App Store to download the Server Add-on" dialog. It gives you the option to cancel if you don't want that ... but cancel doesn't do what a reasonable person would think: skip the server add-on. Instead, it cancels the entire installation.
Anyone had this problem? Anyone know how to work around it? or if there's a work-around at all?

instead of that, I just told it to erase my time-machine partition, and install there. (it refused to install over the top of my "server" partition). Since I had recently done a full backup to an external drive, I wasn't worried about that path. It has taken a bit more work to get fully up to speed, but it at least worked.
But, either path (downgrade to SL client, then upgrade to Lion sans Server-add-on vs blow away an install and install elsewhere) are both ****-poor user experience designs in my opinion. Though, I doubt it matters now, since all future stuff will be via the Mac App Store, and you can just tell that to uninstall Server.

Installing PyMSNt on Snow Leopard Server 10.6

OK, it's that time again, new OS X Server release and thus, new efforts to get PyMSNt running.
Firstly, make sure you have the latest Developer Tools (XCode) installed. Also, assume that all of these commands need to be run as root, so you can prefix each command with sudo, or you can switch to root using:
sudo su.
There are a couple required prerequisites in the form of Python modules. Unfortunately, Snow Leopard has made things quite a bit more challenging due to the inclusion of Python 2.5 and 2.6 and the transition from 32 bit to 64 bit.
I've had issues getting PyMSNt to run with the default version of 2.6. Due to what I assume is Apple's own dependencies on 2.6 (calendar/wiki server), I'm not comfortable switching the system default to 2.5.
2.5 seems to now have pycrypto built in, so the only dependency is pyOpenSSL. pyOpenSSL happens to be built in to Apple's Python 2.6, but we have to compile and install it for 2.5. You can get the latest pyOpenSSL 0.9 here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pyopenssl/files/pyopenssl/0.9/pyOpenSSL-0.9.tar. gz/download
The download page is here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pyopenssl/files/
Now, the installation directions say to use the standard pair of commands: python setup.py build and then python setup.py install. Unfortunately, this will default to Python 2.6 and compile and install it as a 2.6 module, which is NOT what we want. So, modify these commands to be:
python2.5 setup.py build
python2.5 setup.py install
Now, if you want avatar support beyond PNG, you need to install Python Image Library. That's particularly hairy and not required, so I'm going to skip that now, and discuss it at the end.
Next, you need to prepare iChat server for PyMSNt. Edit /etc/jabberd/router-users.xml
You will notice an existing block like this:
<users>
<user>
<name>jabberd</name>
<secret>asdf!ghjk#</secret>
</user>
</users>
You need to add another user for your MSN transport. Let's assume your primary Jabber ID is example.com. You should add a block for a user named msn.example.com. This does not need to resolve via DNS. So when done, it should look like this:
<users>
<user>
<name>jabberd</name>
<secret>asdf!ghjk#</secret>
</user>
<user>
<name>msn.example.com</name>
<secret>asdf!ghjk#</secret>
</user>
</users>
I found that in the past, I was able to use a different secret for the MSN handshake, but I had issues with that this time, so make the msn.example.com secret match the existing one for jabberd. Also, note this secret down as you'll need it shortly.
The PyMSNt project has changed hands, but there are no files at the new location, so this tutorial expects you to download the latest 0.11.3 from http://delx.net.au/projects/pymsnt/tarballs/pymsnt-0.11.3.tar.gz (the download page is http://delx.net.au/projects/pymsnt/downloads.html)
Decompress this archive and for the sake of this tutorial, store it at /var/jabber/modules/pymsnt . You can store it anywhere else you want, but you'll need to adjust the commands and files below accordingly.
Once you have placed it there, make sure it is owned by the jabber user/group with:
chown -R jabber:jabber /var/jabber/modules/pymsnt
Let's cd to that directory for the next few commands:
cd /var/jabber/modules/pymsnt/
Now, you need to copy the config example and edit it:
cp -p config-example.xml config.xml
(the -p makes sure the resulting file is the same permissions, i.e. still owned by user jabber)
nano config.xml
(use any appropriate text editor you want. I like nano)
OK, so:
1. You need to set the Jabber ID (<jid>) to the name you defined in the router-users.xml file, e.g. msn.example.com
2. Set the <host> to your primary hostname (this must resolve!)
3. Commend out <background/>, making that line look like this:

4. Make <secret> match the <secret> you specified in router-users.xml
Save your changes and exit. That should do it for the config file for now.
Also, thanks to Tim Harris, you need to make an edit to the source as described here:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=7865180&#7865180
Next, we want to configure launchd to launch PyMSNt. Initially, under previous versions of OSXS, I set this up to launch onDemand only if the jabber server was running. I accomplished this by using a launchd key called QueueDirectories, which only launches the job if files appear in a directory. I set it to watch the /var/run/jabber directory as Jabber server placed pid files in there at launch. Unfortunately, it seems that in 10.6 it doesn't clean these files up at quit, but I believe this is due to a change in Python's Twisted removal of the removePID function (something that affects PyMSNt as well), and I expect Apple to fix it in the future. So, this plist will work now, and also in the future once Apple fix this.
Also, you'll notice that you must invoke PyMSNt using python2.5, not python.
Place these contents in /Library/LaunchDaemons/net.cjb.delx.pymsnt.plist :
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
<key>Label</key>
<string>net.cjb.delx.pymsnt</string>
<key>OnDemand</key>
<true/>
<key>ProgramArguments</key>
<array>
<string>/usr/bin/python2.5</string>
<string>./PyMSNt.py</string>
</array>
<key>QueueDirectories</key>
<array>
<string>/var/run/jabberd</string>
</array>
<key>UserName</key>
<string>_jabber</string>
<key>WorkingDirectory</key>
<string>/var/jabberd/modules/pymsnt</string>
<key>StandardOutPath</key>
<string>/var/log/pymsnt.log</string>
<key>StandardErrorPath</key>
<string>/var/log/pymsnt.log</string>
</dict>
</plist>
You can leave out the StandardOutPath and StandardErrorPath path if you don't care about logging, but they're helpful at least for getting this up and running. However, the log file needs to be owned by Jabber, so create it and change the owner if you're going to keep those keys in:
touch /var/log/pymsnt.log
chown jabber /var/log/pymsnt.log
Last, but not least, load the launchd plist with:
launchctl load -w /Library/LaunchDaemons/net.cjb.delx.pymsnt.plist
Make sure iChat server is running and login.
*KNOWN ISSUES*
*You must register!*
You still need to use an application like PSI to register for the transport. That's beyond the scope of this tutorial. Note that you need to use an older version, discussed here:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2159145&tstart=0
Snow Leopard might have improved the jabber servers authentication methods to not require the old version, but I didn't bother looking in to that yet as the solution in the aforementioned topic worked fine.
*Calendar Server Clash*
The default port for unencrypted calendar server communications is port 8008. It seems that when launched, it creates two additional listeners on the next 2 highest adjacent ports, being 8009 and 8010 in the default configuration. Unfortunately, naughty Apple has trounced on xmpp's reserved port usage of 8010. Bad Apple! Also, there is little documentation about what 8010 is used for. Initially, I tried shifting the unencrypted Calendar server port to something else. As I only use the encrypted port for communication, I didn't really care. However, most annoyingly, the wiki server calendar client looks for the calendar server at 8008, and I don't know how to change that.
What can you do?
Believe it or now, if you launch PyMSNt first, and Calendar Server after, everything is dandy. Unfortunately, that's not how the startup sequence works, so you'll find the need to do this shuffle after restart. I believe there are dependencies one can put in launchd plist files, but I haven't experimented with that yet.
What else can you do?
You can make PyMSNt listen for file transfers at a different port. In config.xml, the directive to change is <ftJabberPort>8010</ftJabberPort> and pick a different number. I've tried changing this to something quite different, like 18010 and then doing port mapping on my router to map the public 8010 to 18010 since the calendar server doesn't need public access to 8010, only via localhost. I haven't been able to test this thoroughly yet. Also, this is of no use to someone not using port mapping. It would be great if I could bind PyMSNt to NOT use localhost to avoid the conflict, but that's beyond my knowledge.
*Python Image Library*
This is a topic worthy of its own post, but I'll stick it in here. Python Image Library or PIL has two optional dependencies, libjpeg and freetype. You need libjpeg to view non-PNG MSN avatars.
Many instructions on the internet will direct you to jpegsrcv6b. I could not get that to work. Instead, I did succeed with jpegsrc7:
http://www.ijg.org/files/jpegsrc.v7.tar.gz (download page: http://www.ijg.org/)
But here's the problem. Python 2.5 runs in 32 bit mode. The compilers try to compile libjpeg in 64 bit mode. If you've been following info about the way Snow Leopard works, 32 bit processes won't load 64 big libraries/plugins and vice versa. SO, you have to compile libjpeg for 32-bit. To do that, I used:
CC="gcc -arch i386" ./configure --enable-shared --enable-static
make
make install
Freetype-2.3.9 installed normally without a hitch.
And then finally, I could install PIL, making sure to specify python2.5 as necessary:
python2.5 setup.py build_ext -i
After running that, TEST it with:
python2.5 selftest.py
This MUST pass. If it doesn't something is wrong.
Finally:
python2.5 setup.py install
Uggh. So after all of that, I got PIL happily installed and working. But guess what, avatars still don't work, or to be more descriptive, when using iChat, every MSN contact show my avatar as theirs.
I see an avatar related exception in /var/log/pymsnt.log, but I don't really know what to do with it.

I finally got avatar support working as well thanks to this post here:
http://groups.google.com/group/py-transports/msg/f3cdd998a5c7a97a
For me, that was line 2553 of src/legacy/msn/msn.py and changing:
DATA = 0x20
to
DATA = 0x1000020
After doing that, avatars work!!!

Install lion when snow leopard server is installed

I have a mid 2010 mini server. It has two separate hard drives. I want to install Lion on the empty drive, migrarate what I need from the old install and format the first disk. I was told this was possible.
Now, when I try to buy Lion from the app store it won't let me. It tells me because I have a server edition, I have to pony up 80 bucks for Lion plus the server stuff. I don't need the sever stuff. I don't want the server stuff. I bought the machine because it was the ONLY (and by only I mean 1 of 1) mini in our authorized reseller (we don't have an Apple Store in Korea).
Is there any way around this? Do I have to wait for them to ship it on USB key and pay the premium for that?

Currently the only way around this is to use a second Mac and an external HD.
Boot the second Mac from the SL install DVD, select the external HD as the SL install destination.
Install SL and bring up to at least 10.6.6 via Software Update.
Shut down the second Mac, disconnect the external HD and connect it to the mini.
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Upgrading 10.6.8 to Snow Leopard Server?

After a recent servicing at the Apple Retail store, my mid-2010 MacMini has a clean installation of OS X 10.6.8 (client, i.e., non-Server). I want to re-install OS X Snow Leopard Server that came with the machine when it was purchased. Can it be installed on top of 10.6.8, or do I need to wipe the disks again and re-install from scratch using the Snow Leopard Server Install DVD?

Thanks mende1, I appreciate the quick response.
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Snow Leopard Server iCal push not working on iMac clients

Hello,
I have a new installed mac mini snow leopard server and updated osx with all the latest updates.
I am running the iCal server and the Push service and everything seems to run OK.
I have 4 brand new iMac clients which share calendars between the different users,but the iCal Push function doesn't work at all. Even when I change the update method in the iCal client to interval of 1 minute, it doensn't update.
The only way the calendar updates is to choose "Refresh" from the Calendar menu in iCal client.
The push function for the mail clients do work which is strange.
I already tried the following actions:
1. I have stopped and restarted the Push-service on the server
2. I have removed the push server settings in the iCal server settings on the server and added them again
3. I followed the iCal log file to see if an action of a client is immediatly visible on the server = OK
4. I've updated all the clients to the newest software
5. I have restarted the server completely
Does anybody have tips or advise to help me looking to find the cause of the iCal Push problems?

FYI:
Installing Snow Leopard Server into Parallels for DUMMIES!
http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=17285039&postcount=564

How do you install Perforce as daemon on OS X Snow Leopard Server?

I recently purchased a mac mini with Snow Leopard Server, and I am interested in installing Perforce as a daemon. I am familiar on how to do this on a Linux distro, but not so much on Snow Leopard Server. Is there some documentation that explains how daemons are configured on a mac? If so a link would be nice.
For my use case, I have the p4d executable. Basically what I am looking for is a way to integrate it as a service like the rest of the default services which ship with the product.
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If you run Firefox in 32-bit mode, you should see the QT plugin again. Like I said earlier, the bug is marked as blocking the release of Beta 8, which means that if everything else is finished for Beta 8, it won't be released until this bug is fixed.

Installing Snow Leopard server (10.6.0) over Snow Leopard 10.6.2

I need to convert my Mac Pro to run Snow Leopard Server. I have the DVDs.
The installer tells me I cannot perform the upgrade because the OS on the machine
is more recent than the one on the DVD. I guess I have to downgrade to Snow Leopard 10.6.0
before I can install the server OS. I do not want to reformat my hard disk, because I want to
keep the data there. How can I accomplish what I want to do.

server questions should be asked in the server forum
http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=264
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Help with CF9 Standard Install and Mac OS Server (Snow Leopard Server)

Hello,
I recently purchased a mac mini server (with snow leopard server) and will be using it to host my CF9 applications. This install is WAY different than the install needed on a windows machine. I tried to install it once and somehow hosed up Apache and now I can't even get it to start up (apache). So I am having the colo company to do a full restore of the server and I took notes on the Mac Server install and below is the questions I have.
1.) Since Snow Leopard Server comes with Apache webserver, it is what CF wants to use. This is fine, I just need to know where these things are...
It is asking for the Configuration Directory: I'm guessing it is /private/etc/apache2 ? Right or Wrong???
2.) It is asking for Directory and file name of server binary: It currently defaults to /usr/sbin/httpd is this right or should I point it to another directory?
3.) It is asking for Directory and file name of server script: It currently defaults to /usr/sbin/apachectl is this right or should I point it to another directory?
It also wants the location where I can place the CFIDE. Can I place this anywhere I wish or is there a preferred location to point this to?
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Thanks

I have been getting this exact same problem. CF installer is somehow writing some invalid information into the httpd.conf file. I was able to replace the httpd.conf file with the default one, and was able to go through the webconnector process again and (sometimes randomly) it works. I also spent about 4 hours on the line with adobe CF support and made no progress beyond what I'll post here .
To answer your questions about file locations:
/private/etc/apache2/ for the httpd.conf files
/usr/sbin/ for both the apachectl and the httpd binaries
Although I'm able to get past where you are, and it seems to work correctly, Immediately upon adding a new site via server admin it all breaks. Coldfusion then will only work if I manually go to a cfm document. For example: http://example.com/ will give me the raw text from the (default index) index.cfm file. But typing http://example.com/index.cfm works.
I am lost here as well. After 4 hours on the phone with adobe support I would have hoped it would be an easy fix. I've completely nuked and reinstalled the server from scratch with the exact same results both times.
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Filemaker Pro 6 Client install on Snow Leopard Server on Parallels

Hey Gang,
As per MichaelLAX "Full installation instructions for Snow Leopard Server into Parallels", I have successfully installed SLS on an ML iMac using Parallels 8. Worked great, thank you.
The only issue I am runnig into is we require FileMaker Pro 6 client to be installed and functional. FM installs fine, but the client does not seem to be able to "see" the FM Server which is on the same local network all our other macs operate and access FM on.
I'm sure there is a preference somewhere that is preventing the SLS install of FM from accessing the local network computers as they are also not visible in finder as they would be normally. I have no experience with OS X Server in general, so any advice is greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Josh

OK: Here is what I did:
I installed FM7 on my Snow Leopard Mac Mini and created a small file called To Do List.fp7. I made it a FileMaker Network server file in the Sharing... Menu under FileMaker Pro menu.
I then opened FM7 in Snow Leopard Server in Parallels 8 on my Lion Mac Mini. Under the File Menu I selected Open Remote... I changed View to Favorite Hosts.
Then I clicked the Add button. Then for Host's Internet Address, I entered the IP for my Snow Leopard Mac Mini (in this case 192.168.0.151) and gave it a Favorite Host Name (To Do). I clicked Show All Available Files for this Host and clicked Save.
My server file To Do List.fp7 is now visible in the window and I can click Open.
In my case, since I have only one licensed serialized copy of FM7, it recognized that I was using it twice and told me that error and then quit.
But in your case, you should now be able to open your local area network served FM files!
[click on images to enlarge]

Can I install Snow leopard server on the new Mac Mini Lion server?

Hi guys, I purchased a Lion Server and I am wondering if its possible to install Snow Leopard server on it.
I have the Snow Leopard Server install discs and everything , just wondering if there is any thing I should take note of, I personally prefer SLS over Lion.
What do you guys think?

There's a huge thread on this (client, not server, but same concept) which you can find here.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3209335?tstart=30

Trying to install Snow Leopard Server into Parallels 9

Help! I have a 10.8 macbook, purchased Parallels 9 and Snow Leopard Server to create virtual environment for old ppc software (namely final cut pro 6), but the SLS installation halts saying not enough free RAM, but laptop meets min 2gb requirements... Does anyone know how to solve?
I get as far as b in step 6 here
http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=17285039&postcount=564
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Lulu

lulumalmgren wrote:
Help! I have a 10.8 macbook, purchased Parallels 9 and Snow Leopard Server to create virtual environment for old ppc software (namely final cut pro 6)...
Final Cut Pro 6, which is a component of Final Cut Studio 2, is not a PowerPC application; it was written for Intel Macs and should run fine in 10.8, Mt. Lion.
The problem is that there is a "bug" in the installer application that triggers the "PowerPC" dialog box when attempting to install FCP 6 into a Mac running Lion, Mt. Lion or Mavericks.
If the MacBook is old enough to run Snow Leopard, one solution is to partition your hard drive, or add an external one, and install Snow Leopard on it. Then use the "dual-boot" method to run either Snow Leopard or Mt. Lion on your MacBook. When running Snow Leopard, you can then install FCP 6 and run it.
In theory, once you have successfully installed FCP 6 into Snow Leopard, you could then upgrade this partition to Mt. Lion as well, and it should continue to run.
If your MacBook will not run Snow Leopard, review Jeremy Johnstone's method to use Terminal to install FCP 6 into Mt. Lion:
http://www.jeremyjohnstone.com/blog/2012-03-11-installing-final-cut-pro-studio-2 -0-on-mac-os-x-10-7-lion.html
...and as Bill Gates always says:
"You can never have too much money, or too much RAM!"

Can i install bootcamp on mac mini snow leopard server 2010

hello,there are 2 harddisks on a mac mini server 2010 (snow leopard server.)i want to use the other hdd for installing Windows home server 2011 x64 .
but there is no bootcamp on the server.(do i have to download it?)
how can i do this,or do i have to use parallels desktop.
i have also a mac mini and a macbook pro and an alienware and a clevo laptop so i want the 2 servers seperate(and the mac-server on all the time)

You would need to install SL (non sever) on you Mac Mini Server.
You may be able to install the nonsever version on your 2nd HDD
-Partition you 2nd HDD to the max BootCamp Partition
-Install Windows Home Server on the BootCamp Partition (don't know of Windows Server is supported)
So you would have:
hdd1 - SnowLeopard Server
hdd2 - SnowLeopard (non-server) + Bootcamp Partition
Scenario 2:
If you don't have a need for SL Server SW, then wipe out the system and put only the regular SL (non sever) on disk 1. Partition Disk2 for Bootcamp only.
hdd1- SL (non-sever)
hdd2 - Bootcamp
I really don't know if you can copy the Bootcamp app onto SL Server OS to create a Bootcamp partition.

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