Should I move up to a Power Mac G5

I currently have a Power Mac G4 with 733 Mhz ... it has 1 mb cache ... I have owned it for about 6 six years. I use it totally to edit films fom my school. I am using Final Cut 3
I have heard that the advantage of the G5 is speed, but I have point of reference for the benchmarks that I have read.
Right now (on my G4) I can render a 2 minute sequence (or about 20 stills and a few videos) in about 5-7 minutes.
Will upgrading to G5 (and FCP 5) make musch of a difference in this rendering speed> If so ... could you give me an idea of about how much faster it would take?
Also ... I have put some additional memory in the G4 and an additional hard drive ... can these be moved over to the G5?
What I am trying to figure is is it worth it to get the dual G5 (not the quad) ... will it make my life that much easier?
or should I wait until the intel Macs come out?
Any ideas will be appreciated
jb

Hi John;
Will upgrading to G5 (and FCP 5) make musch of a difference in this rendering speed> If so ... could you give me an idea of about how much faster it would take?
I can't answer your question about performance for FCP since I don't have or use it. I can say that I have noticed a very signicifcant improvement in performance between my PM MDD G4 867 MHz and my Quad. By way of an example, a Photoshop script I used on my G4 took over 10 minutes to process a folder of photos. My Quad finished the same folder of photos in under one minute.
Also ... I have put some additional memory in the G4 and an additional hard drive ... can these be moved over to the G5?
No. The memory in the G5 is faster. The drives are SATA instead of ATA. The best you can do is get an extrenal Firewire enclosure for them.
What I am trying to figure is is it worth it to get the dual G5 (not the quad) ... will it make my life that much easier?
I don't know about your life but I do know it helped me a bunch. I had been working on a web page for months. In two weekends after getting the Quad I finished the web page. Everything was just so much quicker, I was able to do things as fast as I could think of them.
or should I wait until the intel Macs come out?
That is completely your call but my feeling is that it is going to be a long time before Apple has something comparable to the Quad based on Intel. I know with my old G4 I could not wait. So I got the Quad with AppleCare and I figure I can wait out the migration with it. Once my Quad starts to get "long in the tooth" and the migration is over and all of the pro applications have been rewritten then I can look around and see if I want to change platforms.
Allan

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I look forward to hearing back
Sincerally
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As a test, let's try disconnecting the HD & see if it booys to any mode without it attached.
It could be the User's files or login messed up, if you want to try something a little more desperate...
Reset OS X Password Without an OS X CD...
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Except you could just use Target mode and move or rename that file.

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While trying to connect (migration assistant) - window froze will calculating the amount of space that the "user" on the power mac totalled - power mac appeared to be frozen
Did a hard reset / power down of the power mac G4
Upon restart, power mac G4 goes through all start up functions up to gray screen with apple logo (with spinning wheel) and then goes to a darker gray screen (without the logo) and spinning wheel
Dark gray screen with spinning wheel hangs indefinitely - I've let it stay there for hours on end hoping it will resolve but it doesn't
Here's what I have done so far:
Placed power mac G4 into target disk mode again in conjunction with macbook proI can see all the files on the power mac G4 (and have already copied them to the macbook pro) - so I don't think the hard drive is damaged
Disconnected all non-apple peripheral devices - only had a card installed in the back - but took that out - issue persisted (did not replace card in back)
Removed one non-apple RAM stick - issue persisted
Replaced non-apple RAM stick and removed apple RAM stick - issue persisted
Reset PRAM
Started computer in single-user modeused fsck and tried to have system check/fix issue; no matter how many times I re-run the command to repair it never comes back with a message saying no issues found - instead it keeps returning with a message saying that the issue was repaired "system modified"
Started computer in verbose modestartup seems to hang when this appears:
"/System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Contents/MacOs/loginwindow: (ipc/send) invalid destination""LayState: cannot map display interlocks."
"/System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Contents/MacOs/loginwindow: kCGErrorFailure: CGSNewConnection""Cannot connect to server"
"/System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Contents/MacOs/loginwindow: kCGErrorInvalidConnection""Connection called with invalid connection"
Tried re-installing with system discsThe only discs I received with the power mac G4 when I purchased are orange and say "SSW version 8.6" on it" ("iMac Software Restore" and "iMac Software Install")
Computer does not respond when holding down "C" key at startup with either disc in the drive
When holding down "option" key at startup, the computer shows the bootable choices as ONLY the internal HD - not either of the CDs I mentioned above; I wonder if it no longer recognizes the original CDs because I updated to 10.2.8 from 10.2.1 before the issue?I also have an install disc for OS X 10.4.7 - for a friend's iMac (G5)
When holding down "C" key at startup with the OS X 10.4.7 in the drive I get a kernel panic
When holding down "option" key at startup, the computer shows the bootable choices as the OS X 10.4.7 in the drive AND the internal HD
When I choose the OS X 10.4.7 in the drive I get a kernel panic
When I choose the internal HD the startup hangs at the gray screen I mentioned above
At this point, I don't know what else to do. I believe the computer is still good because I can see everything on it when I put it into target disk mode; it just refuses to make it through the startup/login process. I have read discussion threads that suggest re-installing the OS using another computer - but I don't know how to do that. I also wondered if there was a way to tell the computer to re-install the software using the original CDs - but from the command line (in single-user mode)?
Someone - PLEASE HELP!

Sorry, SU Single User Mode, OF Open Firmware as these 2 where mentioned before.
As a test, let's try disconnecting the HD & see if it booys to any mode without it attached.
It could be the User's files or login messed up, if you want to try something a little more desperate...
Reset OS X Password Without an OS X CD...
http://theappleblog.com/2008/06/22/reset-os-x-password-without-an-os-x-cd/
It'll boot like a newly setup Mac, but all your stuff should still be there once filling out the stuff.
Except you could just use Target mode and move or rename that file.

IMac or Power Mac G5? Moving from PC to Mac

I'm a PC user now and am fed up with Windows. I just recently went to a Mac store and am now a changed man. Here's my delemma. I am an amature photographer and love to use Photoshop Elements. I also do a lot of multitasking for my day job and need power. I will be needing to run a proprietary PC program on the Mac since it is what I use every day. I'm hoping it will work. But once I make the decision to move to the Mac, I'm not sure whether I should go with the iMac or the Power Mac G5. If I max out the iMac with the 2 gb of memory, upgrade the HD to max and the graphics card, it's still cheaper than if I start doing upgrades on the Power Mac. I don't need ridiculous power, but I want to make sure that if I max out the options on the iMac that it will handle heavy duty work. I'm leaning more towards the iMac because of it's compact footprint. I would love, however, one day to have a high definition monitor to do my photos on.
Love to hear some feedback.
Thanks.
Mark

Well, I considered the iMac G5 but was told that the new Intel ones are faster. I'm also concerned that the one PC program I'd like to run on it may be more compatible if I use the iMac Intel. I was also told that Photoshop Elements will be coming out with a version for this Intel chip. If they do, wouldn't the iMac Intel be a better choice?
Mark
MARK.......
You could buy a new iMac G5!
That's what I did 2 weeks ago. I went to my Apple
store and tested out
both the Intel iMac and the G5 iSight iMac 20' 2.1.
The G5 iMac is really fast and will definitely do
everything you want it to
do and more. Also, current apps will run natively on
it via PPC. This means
that there is NO EMULATION PROCESS whatsoever so you
don't have Rosetta slowing anything down.
My iMac G5 is by far faster than my Mac Mini and
faster at running apps until they become universal
some time this year or next.
I'm a professional photographer and my G5 iMac is
awesome! The ONLY real reason you would by a PowerMac
is for professional video editing. A PowerMac is
faster at rendering videos and burning them to DVD
and stuff.
I decided to stay with a PPC G5 iMac and might
upgrade next year sometime if really necessary. But
this G5 will definitely work for me and all I need to
do for at least a year if not 2 years.
If you max out a G5 iMac, you'll be more than happy!

Should I move up to a Power Mac G5

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