Slow copying using Finder

I am trying to copy some files from my 2.8Ghz iMac running Mac OSX 10.5.8 to various external disks.
Both disks are FAT32 (Windows) formatted devices. One is an IOmega external USB and one is a Kingston USB data stick.
However, the copying is taking absolutely ages. Just over 1GB (2 files) is taking around 20 minutes.
I've tried using the USB ports on the back of the iMac and the one on the keyboard. The results are pretty much the same on each port.
Is this normal kind of transfer rates between a Mac and a FAT32 formatted device or is there something I can do to improve it?
Thanks
Matthew
Message was edited by: MPlb

MPlb wrote:
I am trying to copy some files from my 2.8Ghz iMac running Mac OSX 10.5.8 to various external disks.
Both disks are FAT32 (Windows) formatted devices. One is an IOmega external USB and one is a Kingston USB data stick.
However, the copying is taking absolutely ages. Just over 1GB (2 files) is taking around 20 minutes.
I've tried using the USB ports on the back of the iMac and the one on the keyboard. The results are pretty much the same on each port.
Is this normal kind of transfer rates between a Mac and a FAT32 formatted device or is there something I can do to improve it?
Do those external devices support USB 2.0 or only USB 1.1? There is a significant difference in transfer speed between the two protocols.

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