Sluggish Lightroom 3.6

I am a regular user of Lightroom 3.6. Suddenly it has become extremely sluggish. Will it help if I split my single catalog into a number of catalogs?

Will it help if I split my single catalog into a number of catalogs?
Terrible idea. Don't go there. Lightroom running slow is almost NEVER because you have too many photos.
Try File->Optimize Catalog, and then follow the suggestions here: Lightroom Help/Optimize Performance

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    Photo_op8 wrote:
    BradKaye wrote:
    I'd have to agree with the subject of this 100%, even though I'm not experiencing anywhere near the levels of lag ellsworth is on any of my primary workhorses.
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    Brad Kaye wrote:
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    Take a look at all of the info contained here: (I've already read it, all of it, and more)
    Diglloyd Mac Performance Guide
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