Smart object import changes black colour code

Hi there,
I'm trying to solve some problems I'm having with illustrator objects placed in Photoshop and I wonder whether the following is possible at all: I place illustrator grahics with a black background as smart objects in Photoshop and when I check the colours of the smart object the black has another code and it looks paler as well. Now the question is, is it possible at all to insert an AI graphic and have PS keep the colour code? I work with CMYK on both apps and so far the colour settings should be matched for the CS package. I have checked to display all black shades in deep black under the AI preferences but I am not sure if that is relevant at all. I figure the apps may display the colours differently but at least the colour codes should be kept... or am I expecting too much here?

Well I have the same cmyk profile on both apps as I wrote before. But now that you made me aware to check the profiles once again I came to realize I set the black value in AI according to the cmyk color bar in the colour tab (the black and white square on the right), which will have all the values on 0% except from the k one which is 100%. But the actual 000000 value has another distribution for the percentage in CMYK... So there problem solved. Just wonder why the black values won't match for the predefined black colour, why it can't be the universal #000000... Anyway thanks!

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Hello !
Here's the thing:
I have an icon in Illustrator and I'm designing a website in Photoshop so I copy and paste that icon as a Smart Object in Photoshop and everything is perfect but when I resize that Smart Object is not perfect anymore.
*The document is 200 %
-The first icon is the original file I import from Illustrator and It's 100%
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Now look at those gray light lines around the second icon. Why is that happening ? How can I fix it ?
Thanks !
PS: Sorry for my English I just speak a little bit.

Hi, again, Sunniess.
Now look at those gray light lines around the second icon. Why is that happening ? How can I fix it ?
You may be sorry you asked. I didn't have time to bore you with the answer to that earlier.
The gray lines are being generated in Ps, so this should be of interest to anyone who works with small images in Ps.
When you export from Illy using the clipboard, Illy rounds to the nearest whole pixel. A rounded rectangle is created in Illy measuring 73x30 pixels. If you scale the rectangle 70% in Illy, the new rectangle measures 51.1 x 21 pixels. But it pastes into Ps as 51x21 pixels.
If you import the 73x30 pixel image into Ps and scale 70% , instead of 51x21 pixels, you will get either 52x21, 53x21, 52x23 or 53x23 pixels, depending on where the Reference point locator (highlighted below) is set in the Transform Toolbar. The gray lines are the extra pixels.
Why the extra pixels? The extra pixels are a form of dithering. When you scale the 73x30 imported image 70% in Ps, you get 51.1 x 21 pixels, same as in Illy. But Ps doesn't round to the nearest pixel. It creates fractional pixels. In the screenshot below, the rectangle is rendered 52x21. The lines at top and bottom are sharp because the pixel height is a whole integer, 21. But the width is 51.1. There's a decimal fraction. The gray vertical bar at right is how Ps represents fractional pixels. The .1 of 51.1. Ps can't actually make .1 of a pixel black. So instead it makes 1 pixel .1 black by assigning 10% opacity.
If the Reference point locater is set as below, you get a different result. Now the rectangle renders at 53x23 pixels. You now have gray rows of pixels at top and bottom, as well as both sides. The height is still really 21 pixels, but since it is transforming from the center and it's an odd number, Ps splits a pixel, assigning .5 black pixels at the top, and .5 black pixels at the bottom, which it represents with 2 rows of pixels at 50% opacity. Similar thing with the ends, except they are lower opacity because they represent smaller fractions of a pixel. This pretty much reproduces what your icon looks like.
Below is a closeup of the above rectangle over a blue background. The rows of pixels aren't actually gray. They are semi transparent black.
The point is, how the Reference point locator is set can have unexpected influence on the results, particularly when downsizing small images. And will be most noticable on straight vertical or horizontal edges.
As if that weren't enough, there are options in your General Preferences that affect the results of resizing images.
I copied and pasted your icon into Ps, then scaled it 70% at two different settings.
The top is Bicubic, the botttom is Nearest Neighbor.
A significant difference. And this interacts with the Transform Locator setting to further confuse the issue. But if you resize in Illy you avoid all this.
If you resize in Ps, it's good to be aware of this stuff. This all happens in Ps. It really has nothing to do with Illy. If you must scale in Ps and get noticable rows of fractional pixels, it's easy enough to select the rows and just delete them. Or fill them. That's essentially what Illy does when it copies to the clipboard.
Your English is fine. I hope mine makes as much sense.
Peace,
Lee

Error: Gaps in Smart Objects imported from Illustrator

Hi,
I would like to report an error in Photoshop CS6 (the latest patches have been installed).
I've only recently purchased CS6 and have never posted in this forum before.
Apologies in advance if this isn't the correct procedure for reporting errors.
I'd be grateful if someone knows a workaround as this error makes imported Smart Objects useless in Photoshop CS6.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi Folks,
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} //Value
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sg

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Hi PS masters
I am finishing a poster, fully created in shapes in illustrator. Due to customers request I was forced to do some color corrections so I decided to use my PhotoShop CS6.
I imported vector files into my photoshop as smart objects, added some adjustments layer, few vector masks and I changed their layer style to get the finest result.
When I finished my work in PS I tryed to save this as .pdf
In my .psd there are shape layers, some groups and some adjustments layers with layer masks and changed Layer style to "color", one text layer and 3 smart objects imported from illustrator.
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... So I was trying to save this file as Adobe PDF but I found that whole graphic in exported .pdf was converted to raster, besides the border, cut marks and that one text layer.
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I am running out of time so I saved it as high res .Jpeg, but I want to know if this is somehow possible for future use or If I have to rather avoid that solution.
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// I just thought if I can use InDesign for that. Will be included .pdf file as raster? or it will stay scaleable even with smart objects in it?

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Switching off layer in smart object causes it to move in photoshop

Dear all. I am stumped. I have piece of packaging artwork that I’m using in my 3D software.
Smart Objects are great for this as all I have to do is go to Photoshop, double-click the Smart Object, then in Illustrator turn off the layers I need etc and update the Smart Object back in Photoshop and save back out for my 3D software. Only problem is that when I switch off the layer in illustrator and go back to Photoshop to update, the Smart Object jumps half way up my Photoshop file as if I’ve moved it but it also crops it so I can’t even just move it back down as there’s nothing there when I do.
The layer I’m switching off (not deleting) is the die cut for a pizza box, it is still in the Smart Object just not visible. I have tried this in both CS3 and CS4 and it happens both times. I have searched everywhere on the internet for similar problems but can’t find an answer which makes me think I’m doing something wrong. Although I’ve used Smart Objects many times before and this has not happened. I have attached some screen grabs to help with the explanation.
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Icegiant.
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You need to set up an invisible Bounding Box in the Illustrator file. This will be outside the Die cut. This Cropping area can be defined as a Cipping Mask. In Illustrator Object/clipping mask/Make - Command 7. I haven't really experimented with the ins-and-outs of this, and it may also be possible possible with a simple transparent bounding box. But the clipping mask (different to Photoshop Clipping Masks, same term, completely different function),always seems to work in keeping the defined area from moving when you update the Smart Object
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I then added a cloning layer and did my cloning.
When I wanted to save the file, instead of PS turning it in into a PSD with the same name, I now suddenly got the 'save as' pop up screen and '-2' as the recommended name. The original folder where the file came from was not shown.
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then when you click the tab or the window that has the original opened as smart object those changes will be reflected, but you will not see your cloned layer active as that is a part of the smart object and you have to open the smart object to get to it.
What you say! Yes that is what I say that is what a smart object is, you are using the smart object as a part of another document( that is why you are being asked to save as, as this new documents you can now make changes which will not effect the original which is the smart object unless you rasterize it which will make it no longer a smart object.
What good is a smart object, well there are many say you are using this document or image if you wish in say five projects and the image has been retouched and it is determined it should have some more work done to it all you have to do is retouch the smart object and all five projects are updated.
You see smart.
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I've got a menu I built in Photoshop that uses smart objects to warp and give perspective to both button text as well as pictures in the menu. I built the menu at 300dpi, then resized it to 72 for working in Encore.
That 72dpi menu then became a template for other menus in the project.
Encore does not support smart objects, it converts them to shape layers. Since I had done additional design work on the menu in Encore/Photoshop, I saved a copy of it to be a template. I then opened my original of this file and dragged the smart objects back into it for my template, so that I could create new buttons, etc. for other menus.
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I'm not sure what my question is... I guess I'm just sharing :-), but also wondering if my workaround has a downside that I don't see.
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Julie

I'll test it without the warping and see what I learn and let you know, but I suspect I won't see a difference and you're right that warping the text may be more dependent on resolution.
I just created a 72 dpi file with 2 identical smart objects, except one is 72dpi and the other is 300dpi. I then put the same text with the same layer style on each. There is a difference in the appearance, with the 300dpi smart object yielding cleaner, sharper looking text. When I remove the layer style on both so they're flat, no drop shadow or bevel, there is still a very discernible difference in sharpness. Also, when I export the images to a NTSC monitor, the difference is apparent.
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IMAGE 1
IMAGE 2
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However before the catalog has left the room, the client has sent product changes, so what a good time to test the theory of smart objects working. They don't. That is to say, I made a new file, "PLACED" images within that file and saved it , then flowed the images with text. InDesign updates the images that were flowed flawlessley but the images with smart objects did not change. I had to re-"PLACE" the products that changed, they were not updated automatically within the file they were "PLACED" into.
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I'm assuming that all your images (the new ones that you want to update) are the same pixel dimensions as the old ones, you didn't say
If you control click on the Smart Object in your layers Panel, you can choose "Replace Contents", this allows you to navigate to the new file. An additional tip is that you can set up and ACTION that will perform this function, so pressing a simple F key will bring up the Open dialog, allowing you to replace the new files much more quickly.
This is not a particularly obvious at present, but I do hope they are working on a more robust "replace" and even external file linking for the future.

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