Smart Object woes!

Most serious users have been greeted by Smart Object bugs. They're frustrating.
Check this one out.
http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/smart_object_rendering_bug?rfm=1
Ever happen to you? What causes it?

Photoshop's real power is in its ability to combine many features and functions modally that lets you get just what you want done.
Photoshop's real power to confuse is in its ability to accumulate modality in various places that cause something undexpected to happen.
Yep, we've all done it.
Glad that was an easy one.
-Noel

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Open as linked smart object

Hello,
iam looking for a solution to open files in a folder
and copy then into a document.
Its working good, but i need the files to be linked smart object.
Anyone knows a solution ?
Here my Code so far:
See in line 33. Convert to smart object: ?
var file = new File('C:/User_MY PATH.PSD'),
docRef = open(file);
// Use the path to the application and append the samples folder
var samplesFolder = Folder('C:/USERS_MY FOLDER');
//Get all the files in the folder
var fileList = samplesFolder.getFiles()
// open each file
for (var i = 0; i < fileList.length; i++)
// The fileList is folders and files so open only files
if (fileList[i]instanceof File)
open(fileList[i])
// use the document name for the layer name in the merged document
var activeDocName = app.activeDocument.name;
var targetDocName = activeDocName.substring(0, activeDocName.lastIndexOf("."));
// Copy the Document
app.activeDocument.selection.selectAll()
//convertToSmartObject(); THIS ISNT WORKING - CONVERT IT ?
app.activeDocument.selection.copy()
// don’t save anything we did
app.activeDocument.close(SaveOptions.DONOTSAVECHANGES)
//Select specific layer to paste the copy, this is to make sure the layers are in a specific position
var doc = app.activeDocument;
doc.activeLayer = doc.artLayers.getByName("bgr");
//Paste Document
app.activeDocument.paste()
app.activeDocument.activeLayer.name = targetDocName

Use scriptlistener:
var idPlc = charIDToTypeID( "Plc " );
    var desc2 = new ActionDescriptor();
    var idnull = charIDToTypeID( "null" );
    desc2.putPath( idnull, new File( "C:\\Photos\\myPhoto.psd" ) );
    var idLnkd = charIDToTypeID( "Lnkd" );
    desc2.putBoolean( idLnkd, true );
    var idFTcs = charIDToTypeID( "FTcs" );
    var idQCSt = charIDToTypeID( "QCSt" );
    var idQcsa = charIDToTypeID( "Qcsa" );
    desc2.putEnumerated( idFTcs, idQCSt, idQcsa );
    var idOfst = charIDToTypeID( "Ofst" );
        var desc3 = new ActionDescriptor();
        var idHrzn = charIDToTypeID( "Hrzn" );
        var idPxl = charIDToTypeID( "#Pxl" );
        desc3.putUnitDouble( idHrzn, idPxl, 0.000000 );
        var idVrtc = charIDToTypeID( "Vrtc" );
        var idPxl = charIDToTypeID( "#Pxl" );
        desc3.putUnitDouble( idVrtc, idPxl, 0.000000 );
    var idOfst = charIDToTypeID( "Ofst" );
    desc2.putObject( idOfst, idOfst, desc3 );
executeAction( idPlc, desc2, DialogModes.NO );

Photoshop CS4 smart object template just overwrote a raw file - HELP

So. I've been working in Photoshop extensively for about 6 years now and I am well aware that nothing we do in Photoshop or Lightroom is supposed to overwrite a raw file. I'm not talking about changing it to something a little lighter or darker, I'm talking about replacing a picture of one baseball player with another one - and the original? Gone.
Here's what happened: I have a poster template that contains several layers, 7 of which are smart objects. I change the pictures in the template by right-clicking the smart object layer and selecting "replace smart object," browsing to the new image, selecting, and here is what SHOULD happen: the target picture opens in Adobe camera raw, I make some small edits, click done or okay or something similar, and that new image has replaced the old one in the template. What DID happen was this: I followed the procedure above and selected my target raw file, the picture that was already in the template (the one I was trying to replace with my target file) opened in Adobe camera raw. I thought - Hey, that's wierd! Closed the ACR dialog and tried again. Same thing happened. I opened lightroom and saw - to my HORROR - that the target file had been changed to the same image that was in the template.
If it clarifies: pictures of player A (who played in 2009) is in all of the smart object layers in my template. I want to make that poster be of player B (who played in 2012) so I begin replacing all the smart objects. When I get to the 3rd image in the poster template, Photoshop overwrites my raw file of player B with the smart object photo of Player A. There were no photos of player A on the network drive that the picture of Player B was on. But there's one now. My raw file shows that it was modified about 10 minutes ago.
We tried undoing in Photoshop. That did nothing. We tried deleting the xmp file. That did nothing. We removed it from the lightroom catalog and reimported it. It is now a picture of Player A from 2009 and my picture of Player B from 2012 is just gone.
Anybody have any idea what this could be and how we could avoid it in the future?
Best,
Jamey

mojoimagery wrote:
Now - JJ - when you say "overlay files" - what do you mean? Because that feels like a good description for what happened.
We performed no save operation at any point during the sequence of events that ended with the image in one raw file being replaced by the image in the smart object.
As I wrote Smart Object layers embedded object is a copy of the original and if you replace it you replace it with a copy of some other object. Embedded object are copies and independent from the original. If after creating a smart Object layer who's embedded object is a copy of a raw file and its conversion settings. You change the original RAW files RAW conversion settings the smart object layer raw conversion setting are not changes for its a copy with independent raw conversion settings. When you replace a smart object layers contents you will replace the embedded object and you should replace it with an object the has the same pixel size and orientation. Because there is an associated transform for the object in the layer that is not replaced. The replacement is also a copy. If the original smart object was created using File Open where you choose a RAW file ACR would open with the RAW files current conversion settings. In ACR you can changes the setting then hold down the shift key to change the open image button to an Open Object button. Using that button ACR will open a smart object layer in Photoshop the contents of the embedded object is a copy of the RAW file and the current ACR settings. No File is written Photoshop is not a File Editor its a Document editor that has many data structures for different layer types. When you replace the contents of a smart object you will be put into a "Place" file selection dialog if you choose a raw file it should have the same orientation as the image being replaced because of the associated transform. When you choose a RAW file ACR will open and you can change the conversion settings however there will be no Open Image button instead there will be an OK button. There is also a save image button and you can save a RAW file that is a DNG file not a CR2 file. Like the DNG converter. If you click the OK button the embedded object in the smart object layer will be replaced with a copy of the selected RAW file and the current ACR settings. Again there is no file written Photoshop is not a File editor just the embedded smart object data is replaced in Photoshop smart object layer's data structure.
I do not think the use of smart objects in you process caused what you are experiencing and because it only happens once an a while I feel its more likely caused by some human error made during the processing in those cases. I would look elsewhere for what causing the overlay. In the place file selection dialog it is possible to rename files perhaps even by accident. Programs like LR and Bridge can rename and copy files perhaps overlay other files.

Program error when attempting to edit a vector smart object. Help?

I'm running Photoshop CS6 (13.0.1) 64bit on a MacBook Pro running OS X Lion. About 60% of the time when I try to double click a vector smart object instead of opening it up in Illustrator I get an error that says, "Could not edit original smart object because of program error." This most recent time it was a smart object from vector data I copied and pasted from Illustrator into Photoshop.
Any idea why this is happening and how I can fix it?
Thanks.

Hi there,
I got this problem when I installed Adob master collection Over CS 5.
I had children book story storis which created in Adobe illustrator CS 5 and I created art boards in Adobe photoshop cs 5.
After installting CS 6 i tried to edit the smart objects and it was not opeinging the smart object file in Illustrator.
I did some tests.
1) Right click on smart object layer and click export contents. Save on desktopp or anywhere you want. (I saved on desktop)
2) I had this file on my desktop (Vector Smart Object10.ai) but it didn't show any icon, which program should open this type of file.
3) Double click on the file and it pop up a extension window 'Click on change and select adobe illustrator' and press OK.
4) Go back to your photoshop file and right click on smart object layer and click dit content. now this time it opens up assets in illustrator.
ENJOY!
www.4d-studios.co.uk

Can you have the same smart object in two files?

The situation:
I have a 'base' file A, with two (different) smart objects B and C. Now I want B and C to both contain a third smart object D, and I can't get that to work.
I can place the same file as a smart object in B and C, but it becomes two different smart objects, which are seperately editable. I would like to be able to edit smart object D and the changes to be visible in both B and C and in turn in A.
Is this at all possible?
and please, I'm not looking for workarounds. I have plenty of those, but it would save me a lot of time time if this were possible.
thanks
btw working in photoshop CS5

@PECourtejoie
That's exactly what I need,
but,
some technical issues prevent it from working in Windows Vista or Windows 7
, I'm on win7
@c.pfaffenbichler
That's no problem. just 2 times a ctrl-s. Takes no time at all

Blurry smart objects in Photoshop Save for Web jpegs

I create graphs, etc in Illustrator, place them as Smart Objects in a master Photoshop file before outputing Save for Web jpegs to use as PowerPoint slide backgrounds. Everything created in Illustrator or Photoshop through that process (Quality 80 or 100 with any of the SfW options on or off) Save for Webs are blurry when imported (at 100%) into PowerPoint. The only way I have been able to get anything crisp in PowerPoint was saving a Photoshop pdf. However, that was only the text created in Photoshop. The Illustrator Smart Object part was still blurry. Anyone have any idea on the best process to combine Photoshop and Illustrator files into one file for import into PowerPoint as a clean, crisp background? At this point I am open to all suggestions.

There are parts that are being added in Photoshop, hence going from Illustrator through Photoshop as a Smart Object and then onto PowerPoint. If I wasn't 5 months down the line and just nearing deadline, I would recreate everything in Illustrator. Assuming that I have to continue at this point down the Illustrator through Photoshop line of working, how do you designate pngs or jpegs to be 220ppi. Jpegs have a 1-12 quality (and 12 is still blurry).
Note regarding PowerPoint, I embed the full-page image into the background so others that are using this can't move (by accident or on purpose) the background.

Smart object - what happens to the pixels when i transform?

So i place an image into an open photoshop document, using the place command, of course. it is now a smart object, my question is when i transform or resize without constrain proportions( for example only enlarge the width, the hight unchanged) resample should occur right? are there pixels added only to the width and what kind of resample method is used? oh and how about when i warp this smart object, how do its pixels behave then?

Good day!
As far as I know the Image Interpolation Preference should determine the resample method.
Regards,
Pfaffenbichler

Open as "Smart Object" from ACR to PS questions.

I have 2 questions associated with opening from ACR as a Smart Object in Photoshop. I'm using CS4.
1. Is there a way to retrieve the original filename (complete with path) using a script or a setting somewhere to do this? I'm currently using Bridge Talk to ask Bridge what the active folder is then adding that to the document's .name property and taking off the " as Smart Object-1" part. Then I add a .psd extension to it and then I have to save it to retain that name unless there's an answer to #2 below.
2. Is there a way to change the Document's name as described above from "Filename as Smart Object-1" to "Filename.psd" without actually saving it?
It seems to me there would be a simple way that I might be overlooking here.
Thanks
Mike

Sorry, I guess I need to explain better.
I wrote a script to do this, but here is this portion of the workflow:
1. Open CR2 file in ACR and make adjustments.
2. Open as Smart Object in PS.
3. Script Events Manager activates this script on Document Open, checks to see if it was opened as a Smart Object. We'll assume it did.
4. The script asks me if I want to make another layer. I pick yes. The script copies the SO layer, sets an inverted mask, and opens to edit settings in ACR again.
5. I adjust the settings for that layer in ACR and click OK.
The script will keep looping between 4 and 5 as long as I pick YES.
This gives me more local control of areas. If I want to bring out eyes a bit, I can up contrast, saturation, sharpness, brightness, exposure, or whatever looks best for the eyes in ACR, then unmask the eyes as much as I want on that layer in Photoshop. There is more data to pull from in the RAW file vs trying to do the same thing within Photoshop.
Opening as a regular image file then converting to a SO doesn't give me the same control. I would have to reopen the file separately, make the adjustments in ACR, open to PS then copy that document and paste as a new layer in the original.
Duplicating the document might work also, but I can also just save as .psd at that point since I'd have to know the path name by then anyway. I'll give that a try, though, and see if it might work better. The only catch with the save part is it slows me down waiting for it to write the file and if I have 5+ SO layers, it takes awhile. Once I unmask where I want, I flatten to a rasterized layer and continue.
Thanks

Open as smart object malfunction

A strange thing occurred. "Open as smart object in Photoshop" does not work for one photo from photo session.
It works for all the other but for this one it is clickable but nothing is being opened.
It's like nobody has selected it.
Lightroom 2.5
Photoshop CS4
OS Snow Leopard
Any clue?

This hack: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/401/kb401629.html?
Is Edit in Photoshop CS5 enabled?

Documents with Smart Objects - Very slow to open and Save - CS6 Photoshop

When opening and saving documents with smart objects photoshop freezes the adobe PS loader (circle dots) is replaced and the system loader (multi colored wheel of death) spins for 30 seconds or more.
What I've tried so far based off looking at various posts.
Photoshop Preferenes
Save in Background off
Maximise PSD and PSB file compatability never
Cache Tile Size: 128k
Advanced Graphic Processor Settings: Basic & Normal
Layer Panel options: No Thumbnail
Observations and workthroughs to date
The file size and amount of smart objects effects the file expotentially i.e. The more smart objects you have the worse it gets
These files worked perfectly in PS CS5
It also happens on files natively created in PS CS6
The CPU is maxing out at 100% while PS loads
Closing or opening suitcase has no effect.
System:
iMac 27-inch, Mid 2011
Processor 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7
Memory 16 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
Graphics AMD Radeon HD 6970M 1024 MB
Mac OS X Lion 10.7.5 (11G63)
Suitcase 4
Anyone got any ideas? This is making me go nuts!

A solution!
It turns out the problem in my case was in fact Suitcase. Previously, I'd tried turning it off, but that didn't fix the problem, so this time, I uninstalled it completely and the problem disappeared. I then began re-adding it (installed 15.0.1, upgraded it, etc.) and the problem resurfaced with the addition of the Photoshop-specific plugin. Deleting that plugin solved the problem. So it seems that "disabling" Suitcase by stopping the TypeCore doesn't seem to actually disable all of the tentacles it sticks into your system.
You can find the plugin here: Applications / Adobe Photoshop CS6 / Plug-ins / Automate / ExtensisFontManagementPSCS6.plugin
(After a restart, I also had to delete the font cache, as described here http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/troubleshoot-fonts-photoshop-cs5.html but your mileage may vary.)
Alternately, if you don't want to delete the plugin, disabling it from within Photoshop seems to work as well. To do that, go to File > Automate > Extensis, click Preferences..., then deselect Enable Suitcase Fusion 4 Auto-Activation.
Fortunately, the plugin doesn't seem necessary at all to use the the core functionality of Suitcase (enabling and disabling fonts) in Photoshop. I didn't even know what these app-specific plugins did until researching this problem, and I still don't quite understand the point of them. I guess they allow you to let the apps for which they're installed do a little bit more of their own management (enable a font via Suitcase that isn't enabled system-wide), but that seems like more control than I need--if I'm enabling a font, I want all my software to be able to use it.
Anyway, the problem seems to be completely solved on my system now, though I just did all this, so more testing over the next few days is required. I'll post here if any issues crop up. I'm interested in hearing if this solves it for anyone else as well.

I cannot open a file from LR5 into CC2014 unless it is a smart object. also will not save back to LR at all it gives me an error message "Line: 1 - photoshop.notifyLightroomDocClosed ('lightroom-2.0', 'B53AFA39-A49B-4709-A9BD-0B6467C175C3', 'Macintosh H

I cannot open a file from lightroom into CC2014 unless I open it as a smart object. CC opens, just will not display my image. i am given an error code when I save an image, and can only save to my desktop or other locations, not automatically back into my lightroom.
I am using LR5 latest update, as well as CC2014
Below is the error message:
Line: 1 -> photoshop.notifyLightroomDocClosed ('lightroom-2.0', 'B53AFA39-A49B-4709-A9BD-0B6467C175C3', 'Macintosh HD:Users:BPexposures:Desktop:_DSC5962 as Smart Object-1.psd');

I was also having this issue, and I did some more searching and found this answer in the Adobe forums: Re: Photos from Lightroom 5 to Photoshop CC (2014) and back.... The issue appears to be caused by having not updated Lightroom to the latest version prior to having CC2014 installed (wow that's stupid). The trick seems to be to uninstall Photoshop CC2014 and to then reinstall it after having upgraded to Lightroom 5.5.

Replace smart object script

Disclaimer: I do not know how to script, but am willing to learn and am looking for advice.
I need to replace the text in a smart object from a data list then save the updated file using the smart object text. Is there an existing script that will do this?
I cannot use a straight text layer because I'm performing a free distortion warp on the smart object that does not work on straight text. Using variables seems like a logical solution, but the only variable type for smart objects is "visibility".
Plan "B" is to "replace smart object" with a series of PSD files containing the appropriate text. This works great, but I don't know how to automate it. I can easily create the series of PSD files using variables, but don't know how to automate their insertion into the template containing the distorted smart object.
I'm looking forward to learning something new!

I took a quick look at your script.
I do not know where the the displacement map come in,
The script seem the be replacing the object content of the current smart object layer.
That layer can have had all sort of photoshop functions associated with it and has an associated transform. All smart object layer have an associated transform and may have smart filters and filter mask as well.
I see no code to handle the smart object size and make the replacement object have the same size or insure the replacement object is the aspect ratio and size. Replacing a smart object content does not change the current layer's associated the transform that transformed the original object. If the replacement object is not the same size as the original object the transform may not work like your expecting.
An associated displacement map may come into play because of smart filters on the smart object layer. Displacement maps content are either for the layers content or for lower layers content to make the current layer to conform to lower layers contours.
In fact I create a four image picture package template that used a smart object for the image. Added CS2 for a file type that could be used to replace the image in your script and ran your script. It did pop up the ACR dialog if I select a raw file but it worked perfectly for my portrait cr2 files are the same size and aspect ratio. Ast the object.
And a jpeg was saved to my desktop.
When a different size landscape orianted portrait image is selected here is the result

Batch Replace Smart Object With Different Image Quality and Sizes

Hi there,
I need help. I have this template that is in 1000x1000pixel and 300 dpi. I'm trying to replace the smart object inside with various JPEG that I have. These JPEG comes in large image sizes but lower than 300dpi. The issues is, when I run the script that I have, some of the pictures become really pixelated. Beforehand, I resized them to fit into the empty place in sizes that I find fit the best (8 cm x 6 cm). Some of them work okey, but then some of them just pretty bad. I'm wondering if you can help me fix the script that I have so I didn't have to resized the images before running the script, and for all of them to automatically fit into my template without altering the quality of the image that I put in.
below is the script that I am using and the screenshot of my template:
#target photoshop
if (app.documents.length > 0) {
var myDocument = app.activeDocument;
var theName= myDocument.name.match(/(.*)\.[^\.]+$/)[1];
var thePath = myDocument.path;
var theLayer = myDocument.activeLayer;
// psd options;
psdOpts = new PhotoshopSaveOptions();
psdOpts.embedColorProfile = true;
psdOpts.alphaChannels = true;
psdOpts.layers = true;
psdOpts.spotColors = true;
// check if layer is smart object;
if (theLayer.kind != "LayerKind.SMARTOBJECT") {alert ("selected layer is not a smart object")}
else {
// select files;
if ($.os.search(/windows/i) != -1) {var theFiles = File.openDialog ("please select files", "*.psd;*.jpg;*.jpeg;*.tif", true)}
else {var theFiles = File.openDialog ("please select files", getFiles, true)};
if (theFiles) {
// work through the array;
for (var m = 0; m < theFiles.length; m++) {
// replace smart object;
theLayer = replaceContents (theFiles[m], theLayer);
var theNewName = theFiles[m].name.match(/(.*)\.[^\.]+$/)[1];
//Raise color picker for Back cover;
try {
app.activeDocument.activeLayer = app.activeDocument.layers[app.activeDocument.layers.length - 1];
// =======================================================
var idsetd = charIDToTypeID( "setd" );
var desc7 = new ActionDescriptor();
var idnull = charIDToTypeID( "null" );
var ref2 = new ActionReference();
var idcontentLayer = stringIDToTypeID( "contentLayer" );
var idOrdn = charIDToTypeID( "Ordn" );
var idTrgt = charIDToTypeID( "Trgt" );
ref2.putEnumerated( idcontentLayer, idOrdn, idTrgt );
desc7.putReference( idnull, ref2 );
var idT = charIDToTypeID( "T " );
var desc8 = new ActionDescriptor();
var idClr = charIDToTypeID( "Clr " );
var idsolidColorLayer = stringIDToTypeID( "solidColorLayer" );
desc7.putObject( idT, idsolidColorLayer, desc8 );
executeAction( idsetd, desc7, DialogModes.ALL );
} catch (e) {};
//save jpg;
myDocument.saveAs((new File(thePath+"/"+theName+"_"+theNewName+".jpg")),psdOpts,true);
////// get psds, tifs and jpgs from files //////
function getFiles (theFile) {
if (theFile.name.match(/\.(psd|tif|jpeg|jpg)$/i) != null || theFile.constructor.name == "Folder") {
return true
////// replace contents //////
function replaceContents (newFile, theSO) {
app.activeDocument.activeLayer = theSO;
// =======================================================
var idplacedLayerReplaceContents = stringIDToTypeID( "placedLayerReplaceContents" );
var desc3 = new ActionDescriptor();
var idnull = charIDToTypeID( "null" );
desc3.putPath( idnull, new File( newFile ) );
var idPgNm = charIDToTypeID( "PgNm" );
desc3.putInteger( idPgNm, 1 );
executeAction( idplacedLayerReplaceContents, desc3, DialogModes.NO );
return app.activeDocument.activeLayer

Thank you for your answer.
I was resizing it before from bigger image size to a smaller one (121 cm to 8 cm) which fit my template size. But the dpi remains in 72 which makes the picture pixelized.
I am wondering if I can find a script that will keep the size of the first image that I put on the template for other images that I place, regardless the size they are imported to. Basically, how to make them all fit into the template regardless the size.
Thank you for the info about the scripting forum. I will write there too.
Sorry, I'm so new to this

Smart object colormanagement

When I place a psd file as a smart object in Dreamweaver CS4
I get a much darker images than the original or the exported jpeg
file from photoshop.
Any tips on where I can change the
colormanagement/conversion?

What are the color settings you are using in
Photoshop?

Smart object layer from PS to AI. how to use??

I successfully work AI vector objects as placed objects into PS by copy pasting or file/place into a smart object layer in PS, I find value in making changes to my vector object dimensions in AI and seeing them updated in PS,
but I don`t know how to do it the other way, meaning a PS jpeg on a layer to AI as smart object, I choose an image on its own layer in PSCS4 and convert to smart object, I (right click) export the contents as jpeg smart object, and then back in AI go file/place the smartobject jpeg, when I make changes to the PSsmartobject in PS like colour shift or dimensions change nothing happens in AI,
I would like to have an image pasted from PS into AI whereby I can change colours and dimensions or add pixels like paint on that smartobject layer in PS and then have it update in AI...

To my knowledge Illustrator does not support smart objects. However it does support image linking. Which means if you update a image in photoshop, Illustrator will know the file has changed.
When placing the file, you will see a checkbox at the bottom of the open dialog box for link, make sure it is checked. When you update the file when Illustrator is running with that file opened, you will get a promt telling you the file has changed and asked you if you want to update the image.
If you choose not to update the image at that time, you can click on the linked file text in the top tool bar and update the image from there.
If the file is not open or Illustrator is not running then the file will update the next time you open the file.
Also you will find a edit original button in the top tool bar to take you back to what ever image editor is assigned to that file format.
To assign a file format to photoshop:
For this example we will use jpeg extention
1) Open windows explorer
2) Menu options tools>folder options>File types tab>scroll to jpeg and click on it
3) Click the advanced tab
4) see what actions are listed odds are only open and printo are listed
5) If Edit is not listed, click on the new button
6) For the action type EDIT
7) For the application used to perform action click the browse button
8) Browse for photoshop.exe
9) The following should now be in the application used to perform action box:
"C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CS3\Photoshop.exe" %1
The above file location is assuming you have CS3 and you used the default installation edit original button in Illustrator and the right mouse button menu in windows explorer will take you to photoshop to edit the file.
10) After you click OK you will see the new EDIT action in the list
11) Click OK and then click close to get out of all the dialog boxes
The action can be removed at any time or edited to use another application.

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