[Solved] Suggested clarification for "Forum etiquette-respect distros"

I bumped into this while reading one of the binned posts today, and took a second to parse it properly:
Maligning other GNU/Linux distributions, operating systems, or users thereof is prohibited.
May I suggest a small edit for clarity:
Maligning other GNU/Linux distributions, other operating systems, or their users is prohibited.
I have a wiki account, but I'm not about to edit this page without discussion given my quiet, low-key level of activity in the community.
Edit: Improved rewording implemented. n.b. title slightly modified to fit character limit.
Last edited by mike_r (2014-06-05 23:57:58)

That was quick! Unfortunately, the word which most added the clarity (to me) was the "other" before "other operating systems", which you did not include. When I first read the original text, my brain didn't separate the GNU/Linux distros from the other operating systems; i.e., into Linux, BSD, Windows, MacOSX, etc. By including the word "other" before operating systems, it makes it clearer that we definitely mean more than just Linux and variants thereof. I know its getting nitpicky, but that's the essence of the clarification I was after. Thanks.

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Hi Marilyn,
Thanks a lot for the reply, it's good to see that even the not-so-polite rant postings are taken serious and get attention. I think that most of us truly appreciate the platform SAP is providing, but we're a bit tired with some of the application features/limitations. So I hope nobody takes offense when we're venting a bit...
Waiting for more input here.
I neither understand the more input (for what and by whom) nor the here (this thread or this forum). The missing functionality for dealing with unanswered questions seems obvious enough. At least that should be one topic that everybody agrees on. I suspect that the same applies to the rather poor search capabilities. Though as we can see in the forums, lots of people apparently seem to prefer to quickly shoot some questions instead of wasting their time with any research...
Continue to convince us please.
Is that a polite way of saying keep on whining? If yes, then no problem, I think we all need to do that from time to time...
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Forum etiquette FAQ needs edit/clarification of (a recent? addition)

The Forum etiquette and best practices page contains something I had not noticed before. It may have been added recently.
Don't:
Personally attack people, their edits (including spelling or grammar)…
Their "spelling"?
How are you going to be helpful to people by neglecting to point out to posters that there are no are such words in the English language as "convertor", "seperate" or "seperations" and that's why they don't find the information they need on the Adobe DNG Converter or separations in the Help files or Google?

There is a difference between helping people by pointing out errors in spelling if it is relevant to their query and attacking someone by pointing out they don't know how to spell or use proper grammar.
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Here telling the person that they are misspelling color would be helpful.
Example: I is having a problem with Color Management.
It is not helpful or appropriate to tell the person they should write I am rather than I is.
The second type of critique happens. It reminds me of the story about the English teacher that corrects the grammar of a student that writes her a love letter and hands it back to the student---neither helpful nor appropriate.

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Forum etiquette FAQ + Moderator Enforcement

jochemd wrote:
Since despite the plethora of messages nobody is even attempting to provide any arguments or suggestions towards improving the FAQ, this thread is being locked. Since the only currently provided reason for changing the FAQ is rather pointless in light of the overal rules, I am not updating the FAQ.
The problem with this is that you're assuming that nobody new is going to come along with a question or addition that will put the thread back on topic--it happens all the time. So if someone comes along, sees the original post, and wants to comment--now they have to create a new thread like this. Why waste the time locking the thread?
Ramón G Castañeda wrote:
The Forum etiquette and best practices page contains something I had not noticed before. It may have been added recently.
Don't:
Personally attack people, their edits (including spelling or grammar)…
Actually I strongly agree with this rule (change?)*.
*(It was there last time I looked and it seems to me that it's a typical forum rule.)
I've been the witness and target of personal attacks here for awhile now, so yes it does need to stop, and moderators should be removing this type of offensive comment. But mods need to have the sense to detect good-natured joking around vs. an actual personal attack.
Really though, inappropriate behavior like this shouldn't be that difficult to most people with some common sense.
It's not that hard:
Questioning someone's intelligence? Unacceptable
Questioning someone's educational background? Unacceptable
Correcting someone's spelling, politely without implying that they're an idiot (a personal attack)? OK
Correcting someone's grammar, politely without implying that they're an idiot (a personal attack)? OK
Correcting someone's spelling or grammar in a rude, inappropriate, or condescending manner? Unacceptable
Criticizing person B for politely correcting (editing) person A's grammar or spelling? Unacceptable - according to the Adobe rule specified above
It doesn't say you can't correct someone's spelling or grammar, it seems to say not to attack people for (politely, obviously) correcting another's mistake. I think. It could use a little clarification, the "..." at the end hints that it's incomplete--but the rule itself is needed IMO.

jochemd wrote:
I have seen plenty of evidence that people are more then capable of creating threads With the diversity of people providing off topic input a lock was the best I could do. What I really wanted to do was put a chill-lock on the thread: a lock, some message and a counter counting down for 6 hours until the thread is re-opened. But this software isn't really abundant in moderation features.
And there lies the problem. What to one may be a good-natured joke (because some spelling / grammar errors are funny), to somebody else is a personal attack (becuase they studied very hard and long to learn a foreign language). Add to that that moderators need to make a judgement call on whether the comment will escalate or not, and a moderator has a hard decision to make. It is why I typically refrain from spelling corrections completely, except where pertinent to the problem (for example somebody writing IF (...) THAN ... ELSE ... ENDIF; in FormCalc).
To 1st paragraph (thanks Jive for making it sooo easy to break up quotes for a response):
It's not a temp lock, but there's another simple alternative that I've seen used many times in dozens of other web forums: post a warning that the thread may be locked if it continues to trail off into pointlessness.* If people really want the thread to stay open, they'll get back on topic.
*(To me this means posting random cat pictures, general goofing off, or other 'lounge' type activities. This doesn't include a topic change to an off topic but still productive conversation, as long as the thread creator is okay with it. IMO--leave it up to the original poster to self-police highjack conversations. The point of the forum is to be of service the user/customer, not to make sure they obey all the rules 100% of the time.)
To 2nd paragraph: I understand there's exceptions and that it's a subjective thing, but 99% of the time it's usually pretty obvious whether something is inappropriate. I guess to some degree you have to understand the mood and atmosphere of the forum's users, which can vary, but IMO as a rule it's best to default to the minimum possible moderation and censorship.
In this forum--there is goofing off. Too much at times. But it's going to happen, and after awhile it'll probably seem like too much work to be worth it. I can understand not having 5 threads on the first page dedicated to completely off topic sea kitten posts or "this place is jived up" complaints (assuming there isn't some specific problem being reported), but I hope this is not going to turn into a police state forum. Especially considering that honestly, there doesn't seem to be many new "forum comments" left to make, all there really remains is our frustration and a need to make sure Adobe doesn't start to think we've gotten used to this crap forum software.
I don't know for sure if you (jochem) agree with all this (been inactive the last few days or week) and I'm not targeting this at anyone so... I'm just sayin'.
Geez, too verbose. Basically-- a lazy (but not completely inactive) mod is best!

Forum Etiquette

I like the new Forum Etiquette stickies, but even after that post was made, I'm still seeing rude and hateful comments , mainly from one Senior Oracle DBA. It seems words aren't enough, do we need to come up with some sort of policing agent that expels, banishes, bans users, whom are being rude, mean and hateful.
Sarcasm is one thing, but being demeaning and hateful is just not acceptable. If you can't be nice and help people, don't help them at all. A lot of people come here for help, they are new, some may be lazy, but that doesn't make it open season on them.
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http://www.dba-oracle.com/oracle_news/news_hate_speech.htm
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From your description, you want to achieve the following goal:
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: Cheri Mason
Unable to convert PSE11 catalogs to PSE13 Organizer. Windows 7 PC. 64 bit. Have tried all suggested solutions on forum and community. Other ideas?
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Protools Suggested Tweaks For Mac Performance

Anyone got any experience of the pro tools suggested tweaks for mac performance e.g turning off Dashboard and Spotlight in terminal and so on. They are found on the DUC forum. I use mainly Logic 8, but occasionally Protools LE. I am trying to squeeze as much juice out of my early MBP as possible so have used them. Any thoughts. Any known issues for Logic.
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elvisfridge wrote:
Anyone got any experience of the pro tools suggested tweaks for mac performance e.g turning off Dashboard and Spotlight in terminal and so on. They are found on the DUC forum. I use mainly Logic 8, but occasionally Protools LE. I am trying to squeeze as much juice out of my early MBP as possible so have used them. Any thoughts. Any known issues for Logic.
See my other post re eSATA etc, also any advantages putting apple loops and extra audio content on external eSATA with BFD etc?
Thanks,
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iMac flatscreen Mac OS X (10.3)

Hello "O":
Welcome to Apple discussions.
I have lost the original disks for my iMac
Flatscreen. Now I need to re-install the system so
that I can get the computer to start up again.
1. Will brand new Tiger disks solve my need for the
original disks?
A retail version of OS X (10.4) will install the operating system without problem. If you go that route, I suggest wiping the HD first - although an erase and install will do that as well (overkill, I suppose).
2. My husband & I have owned probably 20 Macintoshes
over the years and we have many sets of original
disks on the shelves. Perhaps my lost ones are
mingled in there. But how do I tell which ones go
with the iMac Flatscreen? Neither the disks nor the
packaging indicates what computer they go with. Is
there some sort of code I can refer to?
I have a G4 (flat panel). My original software came on two DVDs - gray in color and labeled iMac Software install (1 of 2 and 2 of 2). My G5 software install DVD has "G5" on it.
3. What I really need my Flatscreen for is to run OS
9 and non-Intel Mac applications. Can Tiger
accommodate me?
iMac
flatscreen Mac OS X (10.3)
OS X 10.4 (Tiger) will certainly run non-Intel applications. I have not run OS 9 for years, but I understand that OS 9 applications will run under OS X 10.4 (see this knowledge base article):
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106678
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