[Solved] wlan0 and openntpd

Hi,
i recently switched to systemd as initprocess and have a little problem with my timezone, because openntpd is started before a wlan-connection is established.
Is there a workaround for this?
Before using systemd i had an entry in rc.local who started openntpd with a delay of 4 minutes and i know i can use rc.local with systemd, but i think it must be possible to have the established internetconnection as an dependency of openntpd.
Any help is appreciated
Last edited by D4ve (2012-08-27 21:10:57)

Well, i use openntpd, not ntpd.
Heres the .service from openntpd:
[Unit]
Description=OpenNTP Daemon
After=network.target
[Service]
Type=forking
ExecStart=/usr/sbin/ntpd -s
[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target
I think i see the error
EDIT: I've added nss-lookup.target to "After=network.target " and it didn't change anything (Of course i rebooted).
What systemctl says:
# systemctl status openntpd
openntpd.service - OpenNTP Daemon
Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/openntpd.service; enabled)
Active: active (running) since Mon, 27 Aug 2012 20:56:08 +0200; 7min ago
CGroup: name=systemd:/system/openntpd.service
├ 441 /usr/sbin/ntpd -s
└ 625 /usr/sbin/ntpd -s
Hm, is it loaded twice?!
Last edited by D4ve (2012-08-27 17:05:26)

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"Lithuania"
"Latvia"
"Malta"
"Yugoslavia(Selvia Monteneglo?)"
"Singapore"
"Hong Kong"
"Taiwan"
"Malaysia"
"Thailand"
"India"
"Philippine"
"Indonesia"
hope that helps.

[SOLVED]systemd and make a camera visible GUI-wise in your filemanager

After reading a lot about systemd in the wiki and in this forum I understand there are different opionons about systemd. Anyway, I have a adapted all the changes to rc.conf leaving out only a few daemons to start there. So why not give systemd a try? If you dont want to read the full posting I finally got it to work, basically by reading carefully and checking the suggested tests in the systemd wiki. (loginctl)
As suggested by the wiki, I tried the systemd yesterday. Enabled via systemctl some services to "replace" my rc.conf daemons. I got what I thought everything to work, including autologin directly to my Xfce4 desktop. Everything except the digital camera.
When starting Arch traditionally via initscripts I immediately can see the camera in the filemanager (Nautilus) when the camera is attached via USB.
Some minutes later, after adding "init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" to the APPEND line in Syslinux and rebooting, my machine reboots
fine.But when connecting the camera again it is not visible graphically.
The camera is there because when using gphoto2 (the commandline) as root I can transfer pictures etc.
Even if I am no happy CLI user I can handle it when necessary. Handling pictures a graphical view of them is much easier...
As the wiki about systemd says one can try it out. I have not removed anything from the system and when starting Arch again, the initscript way, I can see the camera again in my filemanager, gthumb works again and pictures can be transferred to my machine.
In the wiki again, this time about digital cameras
Permission issues
Camera devices should be granted permission using ACLs. For this to work, users need to have consolekit or systemd running and the user session must be registered with them accordingly.
Check this using /usr/bin/ck-list-sessions to verify a value of "TRUE" should be returned for both the "active" and "is-local" fields:
$ ck-list-sessions | grep TRUE
active = TRUE
is-local = TRUE
ACL=Atlantic Container Line is what first comes into my mind. I have had some connections to transport business...I admit I had to google it to find the correct interpretation of this mumbo-jumbo.
The wiki also gives a "hint", if this is not working try to use the obsolete camera group and edit some udev rules.
Should not be necessary when it has worked before systemd and earlier experiences
But what is this about "Permission issues"? Here is my listings relative the wiki hints. All seems OK.. or why the heck are there two sessions??
[leif@krasaki ~]$ ck-list-sessions | grep TRUE
is-local = TRUE
active = TRUE
is-local = TRUE
[leif@krasaki ~]$ ck-list-sessions
Session1:
unix-user = '1000'
realname = '(null)'
seat = 'Seat1'
session-type = ''
active = FALSE
x11-display = ''
x11-display-device = ''
display-device = '/dev/tty1'
remote-host-name = ''
is-local = TRUE
on-since = '2012-10-24T07:12:56.499847Z'
login-session-id = '1'
idle-since-hint = '2012-10-24T07:13:26.994037Z'
Session2:
unix-user = '1000'
realname = '(null)'
seat = 'Seat1'
session-type = ''
active = TRUE
x11-display = ':0'
x11-display-device = '/dev/tty7'
display-device = '/dev/tty1'
remote-host-name = ''
is-local = TRUE
on-since = '2012-10-24T07:13:02.361157Z'
login-session-id = '1'
[leif@krasaki ~]$
As one can see, the ACTIVE values are here as the wiki says. But no camera. Those values are the same, wheter which way the machine is started. But 2 sessions??
Further reading in the systemd wiki article and consolekit vs systemd.logind gives a clue.
From the wiki:
In order to check the status of your user session, you can use loginctl. To see if your user session is properly set up, check if the following command contains Active=yes. All polkit actions like suspending the system or mounting external drives with Udisks should then work automatically.
So when started via systemd and running logintctl, it gives this surprising result. Does not matter wheter as normal user, nor as root....
[leif@krasaki ~]$ loginctl
SESSION UID USER SEAT
1 1000 leif seat0
1 sessions listed.
[leif@krasaki ~]$ loginctl show-session 1
Id=1
Timestamp=Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:57:03 +0200
TimestampMonotonic=20040019
DefaultControlGroup=name=systemd:/user/leif/1
VTNr=1
TTY=tty1
Remote=no
Service=login
Leader=315
Audit=1
Type=tty
Class=user
Active=no
State=online
KillProcesses=no
IdleHint=yes
IdleSinceHint=1351069009642296
IdleSinceHintMonotonic=6664433
Name=leif
[leif@krasaki ~]$
Surprising? Should it not have been Active=Yes? So something is wrong in my settings although it had worked "before" starting using systemd..
OK, so far. Lost? Not yet. Double check again everything and I found the culprit, my ~/.bash_profile which had worked before seemed a bit different to what is suggested in the wiki. The old one, actually started 2 sessions, as also could be seen here above checking ck-list-sessions. That was the problem
Using a fresh edited ~/.bash_profile as suggested here, the camera is visible graphically
Finally, just for fun, start again the old initscipt way. Enabling daemon and so on. Still 2 sessions going on....Here it was the "/.xinitrc, which also had some old fashions and I removed the ck-launch-session from the exec line. So even here, now only 1 session..
Anyway, now the camera is visible, both starting with initscripts, naturally also some daemons active in rc.conf and by starting with systemd.
I rest my case and it seems systemd works with everything on my machine which is just a normal desktop used by an old man.
Thanks for reading...

Solved now! Boot times are as fast as posssible on my HDD I think. Only thing after uninstalling initscripst and initscripts-systemd was that locale was not set inspite of a correct /etc/locale.conf. I had to make /etc/profile.d/locale.sh with this content;
if [ -s /etc/locale.conf ]; then
. /etc/locale.conf
fi
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