Song/artist order issue

My songs/artists are in proper alphabetical order in iTunes, but when I sync them, they're not in order on my iTouch!
Songs sync properly, but for some reason, when I hit "Music" on my iTouch, songs/artists are listed under the wrong letter, and in a crazy order.
This is not a case of "The" being ignored-- my B's for example, include the following sequences (I listen to a lot of genres, as you may notice):
"Blue Suede Shoes"
"Barbara Ann"
"Body Language"
Bare Grace Misery"
"Basket Case"
"Capital G"
"Carrie-Anne"
"Cast It Out"
"Be Like That"
Under Artists, there is the following sequence:
"The Beach Boys"
"The Beatles"
"Chain Algorithm"
"Beck"
"Chevelle"
"Beyonce"
"Billy Idol"
"Daft Punk"
"Billy Joel"
How do I fix this jumbled mess so I can find my songs easily again?

Quick clarification:
This issue did not happen AT ALL before I upgraded to iOS 5. I first noticed that songs and artists were "overflowing" the letter sections (B running into the C section) around December, but that didn't bother me as much. It's been a few weeks now that the songs are in a weird jumble.
I have always used Manual Sync.

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Well, to make the Artists section go from 0-9 then A-Z, click at the very top of the Artists column where it says 'Artists'. When you see that it goes 0-9 then A-Z, you know you've done it right. Same goes for your songs.
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ErikahRae wrote:
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