Sony DSR-25 DVCAM deck is no longer recognized by FCP

I have not used this deck for quite some time as I have been experimenting with HDV lately, but now when I attempt to us it, FCP will simply freeze.
I am running OSX 10.5.1 and using Final Cut Studio 2.
According to the Apple website this deck is supported.
I have tried trashing prefs, and switching to "non controllable device".
I am not even able to force quit with the deck connected.
Any ideas?
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I don't know if the 4 pin / 6pin thing is relevant either, but the DSR45 can't do insert editing with any form of input. You can only do assemble editing whether you use firewire or analogue inputs.
The DSR1500 has a 6 pin connector. We normally use analogue inputs (component) when working with ours because of our physical layout. I can't remember if I have ever done an insert edit using firewire (I usually use an old AVID and analogue signals for the insert work I do), but in that scenario (using a DSR1500P because we live in the PAL world) there is a loss of one frame of audio when the insert ends. I am not sure if this only applies to the PAL version of the deck.

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