Sourcing Cockpit in Classic Scenario

Hi,
We are implementation SRM 7.0 Classic Scenario.
The client requirement is this. They want a requester to create a incomplete shopping cart, as they are not aware of the price and the vendor at times. Now they want the incomplete shopping cart to be picked up by the buyer in the sourcing cockpit, add the price and vendor details, and then this cart to go ahead with the approval hierarchy.
Now I understand that the PO gets created directly from the sourcing cockpit, but is it possible for the buyer to complete the SHC first(we are ok with buyer approvals), and then for the SHC to go through the approval hierarchy. Else is there any other Solution for this.
Please suggest.
Ron

Hi
after approval only the SC goes to cockpit or follow on document created.
BUYER can determine the price
you can do the configuration Sourcing carried out without source of supply.
though REQUESTER eneter any price , BUYER can override the price.
If requester assigned prefered vendor or without any vendor - it will go the cockpit.
if REQUESTER enter any price if requester assign any fixed vendor, PO will be created since - Free text sc - Product category contract,
if it is material , the price can be picked from contract like any fixed siurce of supply.
Muthu

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