Sticky proposal: Logic Pro (first draft)

Ok, here's a first draft of the proposed sticky for this forum. After looking at what we had, I decided to basically do it in four parts - introductory stuff (please post version numbers etc), problem solvers, tips, and audio general stuff.
I'm not making this a work of art, but value feedback in order to make this useful before we ask the mods for a sticky. It's not complete, such a task is a much bigger job, but it's a start. What's not there? What's confusing? Is it too much stuff? Too newbie unfriendly?
When we are happy I will probably style/format it a little better as well.
Lemme know - cheers,
This is a compilation of Logic tips, useful threads and information for Logic Pro users, compiled mostly by Eriksimon (thanks!) with additional contributions from Bee Jay and (final forum member list to be completed)
- Getting the best help from the Apple Logic Pro Discussions
This forum is intended to be a user-to-user support form to users of Logic Pro.
Please keep your posts on the topic of Logic Pro, or you risk your post being removed for being off-topic. There are plenty of other general audio and recording forums better suited for asking general audio questions.
Questions about third-party software and hardware are welcome as long as they relate directly to using these products in conjunction with Logic.
This forum is dedicated to the post-Apple versions of Logic, which means questions for Logic Pro 7, Logic Pro 8, and Logic Pro 9 are welcome. However, please include the version of Logic you are using, in order to give useful advice (as things change between versions.) Better still, put your Logic versions and system information in your signature, to save having to ask for it.
If you are a user of Logic Express, you should post in the Logic Express forum, rather than the Logic Pro forum, in order to get advice suited to your particular software version (as some things are different between Logic Express and Logic Pro).
Remember that many questions, especially if you are new to Logic, have been asked multiple times before, so it's good practice to use the Discussions Search feature in the top right of the page to search for previous discussions relating to your issue. You will find a wealth of information. Often you can find a solution to your question without needing to post and have someone type out a response they've already typed out hundreds of times before - or worse yet, have your question ignored.
Please be respectful of the members on the board at all times - we are happy to help people out, but do so in our own free time and don't have a duty to do so.
Posts discussing non-Logic related items, off-topic or controversial subjects, abusive posts and harsh language are not welcome and will likely be removed, as will posts discussing illegal software. Please read the Terms of Use of this board for more info at:
This post is a user-contributed compilation of links to content on this forum, official Apple documentation, and occasionally some other outside content where useful to Logic users. It is not in itself an official Apple document, and Apple do not take responsibility for it's content. It is not intended to be complete or comprehensive, just a helpful start for common issues.
Logic feature requests and feedback to Apple Logic team:
http://www.apple.com/feedback/logicpro.html
- General Help, Issues, Errors & Troubleshooting
Logic Pro 8 (*probably also for Lo9ic): Troubleshooting Basics
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2375
Logic Pro, Logic Express: Remove Audio Unit plug-ins to troubleshoot issues (9?)
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2852
Logic Pro, Logic Express: Spinning disc cursor after recording
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA24239
Logic Pro/Express 8 - Logic seems to stop responding (hang) while "Searching for Audio Unit plug-ins" when starting up (9?)
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1086
Logic 9 (and all other LS2.0 apps) crashing on startup, other Logic Studio apps as well. Solutions:
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=9879826#9879826
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=9907434#9907434
Corrupted Plug Ins and a possible solution:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1912373&tstart=0
Delete AU cache - problems with invalidated Plug Ins:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1856107&tstart=0
How to open songs from Logic 4 or earlier (L7 + L8 needed)
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3612
Why do you get 'kernel panics'?
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=9954472#9954472
Logic Pro 8, Logic Express 8: Cannot select USB mic as an audio input
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2648
Logic crashes: MelodyneRewireDevice or MelodyneBridge or Rewire need an update.
http://www.celemony.com/userforum/viewtopic.php?p=9807
Logic or GarageBand may quit unexpectedly when starting with Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard if Melodyne is installed
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA25071
Links/RSS feed of all Apple support docs released the past year concerning Logic Studio apps:
http://rss.support.apple.com/logic
Logic Pro/Express 8: Error when bouncing files with normalize checked (9?)
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1094
Logic Pro/Express 8: Converted Apple Loops play in different key and tempo than expected (9?)
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1283
Logic Pro/Express: Freeze cursor appearance prevents Audio Instrument track editing (9?)
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA23365
Logic Pro, Logic Express: Instrument not triggered as expected (9!)
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA22915
Logic Pro 8: Missing content after install:
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=6602988#6602988
Logic: Dense clusters of automation nodes can cause audio to stutter
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2139
Logic: Rebuilding the Loop Index
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3443
Solutions for noise in the audio signal
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2743?viewlocale=en_US
Logic Pro, Express: Solo Safe mode may not remain disabled for a particular channel strip
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1939
Logic Pro/Logic Express: Error while trying to sync Audio and MIDI
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2111
Logic Pro 9: Number of recent items sometimes resets to 10
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2810
Logic Pro 8, Logic Express 8: ReWire inputs in existing projects may shift unexpectedly
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2466
FAT32 disks
Message: I/O ERROR RESULT -36
Beachball when recording
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2053469
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1940763
Logic: Resetting MIDI Drivers
Logic Pro has detected a possible conflict between one or more third party MIDI or audio drivers.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1989370&tstart=0
Logic Pro: EVB3 Organ Instrument does not play
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=7344356&#7344356
Logic Pro: Inserts disappear from output channel strips
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6796713
Logic 8: Where is the Tutorial DVD mentioned in the manual?
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=7401134&#7401134
Logic: If new AU plugins don't show up, reset AU cache
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6247833&#6247833
Logic 8: Remove serial number / license
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=5636506&#5636506
Logic 8: Logic only runs when XSkey is connected
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1106
Logic 8: Hybrid Morph missing
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6289860
- General Logic Useful Tips & Techniques
Logic: CoreAudio System Overload Messages
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA24535
Logic: Learn about I/O buffer size and monitoring latency
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1314
Logic Pro 8 (*probably also for Lo9ic): Tips for balancing multi-core performance
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3161
Logic Pro 8, Logic Express 8 (*probably also for Lo9ic): Startup modifier keys
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2047
How to setup Aggregate devices (help, my USB Mic doesn't work):
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1215
Official Logic Pro 9 PDF manual:
http://documentation.apple.com/en/logicpro/
-click on View as PDF and the PDF will be downloaded.
If it doesn't download, ⌥-clicking on the link might work.
How to make the PDF manual appear in Logics' help menu:
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=9974746#9974746
Logic Pro/Express 8: Discussion of the Normalize feature in the Bounce dialog
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2890 (also 9?)
Logic Pro/Express 8: How the EXS24 sampler addresses RAM in Logic 8 (9?)
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1041
Logic Pro, Logic Express: About compressed audio and track counts (9!)
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3331
LP8: How to make readable lyrics that follow song
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=9091728#9091728
Creating Split Stereo files:
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=7932256#7932256
Performing a loopback test:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1883662&tstart=0
The novice quick guide to buses:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2108996&tstart=0
Sidechain Compression using a Bus:
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=9943631#9943631
How to sidechain an Apple Loop to a Synth (ES2)
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=9977884#9977884
Side Chain general:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=3927558
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=5137845
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=5081924
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=3007887
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=3946575
Side chain filtering:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1356882
Side chain in Logic instruments:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6069943
How do I lower my recording level?
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2077388
How to use MIDI Controller Knobs
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1297134
Aligning audio tracks
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1988906
How to split one stereo file into two mono.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1414557
Off, Read, Latch, Touch, Write
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1996815
How to identify audio file types and formats of regions in Logic
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA25098
Logic: Compress types discussion
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1272696&tstart=0
GarageBand, Logic: Where loops get installed
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1045
Why level control is important, and hot recording is outdated.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2114225&tstart=50
How to use multiple keyboards in Logic:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6929093
How to use arpeggiators in Logic:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=7812007&#7812007
Why are my MP3 bounces so loud?
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2047411
Destructive Input processing
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6000085
Compressing during recording
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1260375&tstart=0
How to "Kill Voices" in a stereo track for Karaoke purposes (if you really must...)
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=10115536#10115536
How to set iTunes to 'neutral' playback
or
"My bounce/mix sounds different when played in iTunes"
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2148955&tstart=0
- Audio General
Final mix too quiet
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1343759
Wikipedia: Audio bit depth
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audiobitdepth
Get to know your ears (& equipment)
http://audiocheck.net/audiotests_index.php
Very useful utility for checking vital stats
http://ragingmenace.com/software/menumeters/index.html
How to Record an Electric Guitar on Your Mac: Optimizing Your Analog Signal
http://www.apple.com/pro/techniques/connectingguitar/index2.html
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Bee Jay wrote:
This is a compilation of Logic tips, useful threads and information for Logic Pro users.
- Getting the best help from the Apple Logic Pro Discussions
Remember that many questions, especially if you are new to Logic, have been asked multiple times before, so it's good practice to use the Discussions Search feature in the top right of the page to search for previous discussions relating to your issue.
The search still doesn't work, for anything pre-Snow Leopard... maybe you should omit this tip until it works again...
- General Help, Issues, Errors & Troubleshooting
Okay, here I marked some of the links because at the time it was not clear if they adress things that are still actual in L9.
It may be a good idea to name the topics that apply to all Logics' (7, 8 and 9) simply Logic Pro (or leave 'm nameless), and the others after the specific version they apply to. The topics with a (9?) behind it, have still to be confirmed to also apply to L9 (.0.2)
I used underlining to mark text that can be deleted.
1. Logic Pro _8 (*probably also for Lo9ic)_: Troubleshooting Basics
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2375
2. Logic Pro, Logic Express: Remove Audio Unit plug-ins to troubleshoot issues (9?)
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2852
3. Logic Pro, Logic Express: Spinning disc cursor after recording
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA24239
4. Logic Pro/Express 8 - Logic seems to stop responding (hang) while "Searching for Audio Unit plug-ins" when starting up (9?)
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1086
5. Logic Pro 9 (and all other LS2.0 apps) crashing on startup, other Logic Studio apps as well. Solutions:
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=9879826#9879826
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=9907434#9907434
6. Corrupted Plug Ins and a possible solution:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1912373&tstart=0
7. Delete AU cache - problems with invalidated Plug Ins:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1856107&tstart=0
...and continue to number like this.
How to open songs from Logic 4 or earlier (L7 + L8 needed)
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3612
Why do you get 'kernel panics'?
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=9954472#9954472
Logic Pro 8, Logic Express 8: Cannot select USB mic as an audio input
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2648
Logic crashes: MelodyneRewireDevice or MelodyneBridge or Rewire need an update.
http://www.celemony.com/userforum/viewtopic.php?p=9807
Logic or GarageBand may quit unexpectedly when starting with Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard if Melodyne is installed
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA25071
Links/RSS feed of all Apple support docs released the past year concerning Logic Studio apps:
http://rss.support.apple.com/logic
Logic Pro/Express 8: Error when bouncing files with normalize checked (9?)
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1094
Logic Pro/Express 8: Converted Apple Loops play in different key and tempo than expected (9?)
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1283
Logic Pro/Express: Freeze cursor appearance prevents Audio Instrument track editing (9?)
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA23365
Logic Pro, Logic Express: Instrument not triggered as expected (9!)
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA22915
Moved these together:
Logic Pro 8: Missing content after install:
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=6602988#6602988
Logic 8: Hybrid Morph missing
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6289860
Logic: Dense clusters of automation nodes can cause audio to stutter
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2139
Logic 8: Logic only runs when XSkey is connected
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1106
- General Logic Useful Tips & Techniques
Logic: CoreAudio System Overload Messages
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA24535
Logic: Learn about I/O buffer size and monitoring latency
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1314
Logic Pro 8 _(*probably also for Lo9ic)_: Tips for balancing multi-core performance
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3161
Logic Pro 8, Logic Express 8 _(*probably also for Lo9ic)_: Startup modifier keys
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2047
How to setup Aggregate devices (help, my USB Mic doesn't work):
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1215
Official Logic Pro 9 PDF manual:
http://documentation.apple.com/en/logicpro/
-click on View as PDF and the PDF will be downloaded.
If it doesn't download, ⌥-clicking on the link might work.
How to make the PDF manual appear in Logics' help menu:
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=9974746#9974746
Logic Pro/Express 8: Discussion of the Normalize feature in the Bounce dialog
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2890 _(also 9?)_
Logic Pro/Express 8: How the EXS24 sampler addresses RAM in Logic 8 (9?)
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1041
Logic Pro, Logic Express: About compressed audio and track counts (9!)
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3331
(no edits for the rest of the list.)
I like the format, btw, simple and easy to 'scan'. No need to 'pimp' it much more.
Great Job BJ!

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    I never had this problem with Pro 7 or 8.
    Greetz,
    Axel
    MAC OS X 10.5.8
    coreaudioinstaller_v74249904 for MBOX
    Mac Book 4GB Intel Dual Core 2.1MHz

    Omg.... I't my total memory mistake !! lol
    Sorry. Sorry.. Totally wrong post
    Really - Logic Remote is only Logic X App....
    Shame ... Thanks The Art Of Sound ...
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    Thanks, Alex
    (CRASH REPORT)
    Process:         Logic Pro [890]
    Path:            /Applications/Logic Pro.app/Contents/MacOS/Logic Pro
    Identifier:      com.apple.logic.pro
    Version:         ??? (???)
    Build Info:      Logic-16975300~2
    Code Type:       X86 (Native)
    Parent Process:  launchd [401]
    Date/Time:       2013-10-27 13:54:34.656 -0400
    OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.6.8 (10K549)
    Report Version:  6
    Interval Since Last Report:          4718324 sec
    Crashes Since Last Report:           350
    Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   272
    Anonymous UUID:                      66A4370A-7908-4B32-B309-C95740C3D8C9
    Exception Type:  EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP)
    Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000002, 0x0000000000000000
    Crashed Thread:  0
    Dyld Error Message:
      Library not loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreAudioKit.framework/Versions/A/CoreAudioKit
      Referenced from: /Applications/Logic Pro.app/Contents/MacOS/Logic Pro
      Reason: image not found
    Binary Images:
    0x8fe00000 - 0x8fe4163b  dyld 132.1 (???) <4CDE4F04-0DD6-224E-ACE5-3C06E169A801> /usr/lib/dyld
    Model: MacBookPro8,2, BootROM MBP81.0047.B04, 4 processors, Intel Core i7, 2.2 GHz, 4 GB, SMC 1.69f3
    Graphics: AMD Radeon HD 6750M, AMD Radeon HD 6750M, PCIe, 1024 MB
    Graphics: Intel HD Graphics 3000, Intel HD Graphics 3000, Built-In, 384 MB
    Memory Module: global_name
    AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x14E4, 0xD6), Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 5.100.198.104.5)
    Bluetooth: Version 2.4.5f3, 2 service, 19 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
    Network Service: AirPort, AirPort, en1
    Serial ATA Device: TOSHIBA MK7559GSXF, 698.64 GB
    Serial ATA Device: OPTIARC DVD RW AD-5970H
    USB Device: FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in), 0x05ac  (Apple Inc.), 0x8509, 0xfa200000 / 3
    USB Device: Hub, 0x0424  (SMSC), 0x2513, 0xfa100000 / 2
    USB Device: BRCM2070 Hub, 0x0a5c  (Broadcom Corp.), 0x4500, 0xfa110000 / 5
    USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, 0x05ac  (Apple Inc.), 0x821a, 0xfa113000 / 8
    USB Device: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad, 0x05ac  (Apple Inc.), 0x0245, 0xfa120000 / 4
    USB Device: Hub, 0x0424  (SMSC), 0x2513, 0xfd100000 / 2
    USB Device: IR Receiver, 0x05ac  (Apple Inc.), 0x8242, 0xfd110000 / 3

    Alex,
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    So, as i said, did you try checking and repairing your System Disk using OS X's Disk Utility? That is the only possible other option you have at this time as you have no backups..
    Other than that.. You will probably need to start again from scratch.... formatting the HD.. installing OS X and then your Apps etc...
    Make sure you move/copy all personal data files such as Photos, docs, Logic Pro Projects and so on.....to an external HD before you reformat and start again... You can then move those personal data files back manually after you have reinstalled everything...

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    PLEASE!!! Read my entire post before commenting. I don't mean to sound rude but I've posted this in several other forums and it's obvious they hadn't read/understood my issue based on the comments they left, ie., suggesting everything I've already tried, saying to contact tech support and even asking what comp and DAW I'm using... I've been dealing with this issue for ~8 months
    SPECS
    I use 2 daisy-chained Firepods connected to a Mac Pro Quad-core running 10.6.5 and Logic Pro 9.1.3.
    I get the results described below whether I'm trying to record at 24 or 16 bit and at either 44.1K or 48K.
    Generally I record 12 tracks simultaneously AND I always use the same inputs for each instrument; ie., Vocals = track 11, guitar = track 2, bass = track 1, etc...*
    PROBLEM
    Although this is a sporadic issue it happens to occur WAY more than it doesn't; ie., very rarely do I get a recording session without the anomaly.
    The issue is that after I have recorded a session and listen back to the recorded material there are random crackles, pops, clicks throughout. When I audition tracks individually, some may have no crackling and some will have crackling at different points in time and of varying intensity. Every session is different as well, no two sessions are the same. One day I may have a perfect vocal track and a guitar track that is just silly with the crackling. The next day the guitar track may be fine but now the vocal track is all messed up with crackling. Another confounding point is that the crackling does not occur during periods of silence.
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    Things I've Tried
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    3. Disconnecting the FW cable that goes from the Firepod to the Mac. Turn on the Mac. Launch Logic. Turn on both Firepods, master first. Connect the FW cable that goes from the Firepod to the Mac.
    4. Tried every conceivable configuration of Audio Midi Setup.
    5. Tried several other FW and USB audio interfaces, obtaining perfect results.
    6. Been working with Apple tech support (both hardware and Logic support).
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    8. Installed a fresh SATA HD with clean installs of both OS10.6.5 and Logic Pro 9.1.3 with fresh custom templates and no 3rd party plugins or loops.
    9. Lots of praying, swearing and fits of anger.
    Final Comments
    First, I think that the chassis FW connectors on the firepods are absolute garbage (read, cheap, cheap, cheap) and are inferior to anything else I have encountered during my troubleshooting process.
    Last, I will go ballistic if I hear one more Presonus rep say anything to the effect of, "Huh! Never heard of anyone else experiencing the symptoms you're describing..." Yes, I have spoken adnauseum with Presonus tech support with zero results.
    Any guidance will be greatly appreciated.

    Hi Pancenter! I'll try to be brief. LOL
    I had 4 perfect multi-track sessions and then the gremlin woke up and and cast his spell... Frustrating... The biggest difference I enjoyed using your suggestion was that when I launched Logic, loaded my template, enabled my tracks and hit record, the session started without a hitch. Prior to your suggestion, I would have to futz around with Logic audio prefs, AMS settings, turning the Firepods off/on, quitting/restarting Logic and/or shutting down/restarting my Mac Pro just to get the session to show my enabled tracks had activity. I would not know if the session would have the noise artifacts until playback. I should add that I never had this problem with my PPC G5 nor did I for the first 10 months of use with this Mac Pro. Also, with the help of Apple tech support we had eliminated Logic, 10.6.5 and the Mac Pro (except the FW800 bus) as probable causes. Again each Firepod and Logic work flawlessly when I use one unit not daisy-chained. So, I think there is no problem with the individual units, and, as I said, both units worked fine chained with my PPC Mac Pro.
    So, I called Presonus. Again... And I get yet another tech who tells me something different; every time I speak with Presonus I get different suggestions. This guy asked what kind of cable I was using to connect the Firepods to the Mac Pro and I said I'm using a *firewire 9-pin to 6-pin cable*. So has asks well, is it *bilingual*? He said that would def fix my problem. I told him it is advertized as bilingual and that had not fixed the problem; he had no answer for that. Then, I broached the option of adding a firewire 400 card to my Mac Pro. He said I guess you could try that; get one with a TI chipset. That's where I'm at now, deciding which one to get and whether I will need to provide auxiliary power to the card's on-board molex plug.
    Any ideas?
    Oh, thanks for responding

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